Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: Hello, everybody.
You are listening to WVUA 90.7 FM, Tuscaloosa. Student section fantasy sports my name is Jamie Martinez and I'm joined by Jake Riker, Lincoln Burkholder and Zach Lrod. On today's episode, we're going to be going through an NFL mock draft and looking at which rookies are fantasy relevant for the upcoming NFL season. And if we think they're going to be booms or busts, depending on this mock draft, obviously we're not going to be going over defensive players or offensive linemen, just sticking to the qbs, receivers, running backs and tight ends. So let's get it. We're doing a CBS Sports mock draft by Kyle Stackpole. So shout out Kyle Stackpole.
[00:00:57] Speaker C: From today.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: Yes, from today. 10 hours.
[00:00:59] Speaker C: Two minutes ago it was updated 32.
[00:01:01] Speaker B: Oh, man.
[00:01:01] Speaker C: I just opened it.
[00:01:02] Speaker B: Shoot. Okay. All right. First pick, the Chicago Bears take Caleb Williams quarterback, USC.
[00:01:08] Speaker A: This is going to get.
[00:01:09] Speaker B: They don't stick with Justin, they go. Caleb Williams generational quarterback talent, according to many. Jake, do we think this is the right pick? Is this fantasy?
[00:01:20] Speaker A: I think I also like the boomer bus thing you had. I think we can go around and say boom or bus.
[00:01:25] Speaker B: There we go.
[00:01:26] Speaker A: Every player.
[00:01:26] Speaker B: I like that.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: Personally, I'm not the biggest fan of don't.
Maybe it's just because I'm a Lamar Jackson fan.
[00:01:37] Speaker B: They're both running backs, okay.
[00:01:39] Speaker A: Starting off strong.
[00:01:40] Speaker D: I like it.
[00:01:41] Speaker A: All right.
There's got to be some way I can throw Brock Purdy slander in here.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: I got to do that.
[00:01:48] Speaker A: I love how we're 30 seconds in the show. We're already talking about Lamar and Brock Purdy.
[00:01:52] Speaker B: That's what we do best.
[00:01:53] Speaker A: But I think that Caleb Williams is definitely the right pick, even though he had somewhat of a shaky year at USC this past season. Obviously, he was a Heisman winner two years ago in a phenomenal season where they almost made the playoffs. But I think Chicago needs to move on from Justin Fields. But the only thing I don't like about the pick is Caleb Williams doesn't even want to be a bear himself.
[00:02:15] Speaker B: Yeah, he has said that on multiple occasions.
[00:02:17] Speaker A: So fantasy wise, I think he's going.
[00:02:21] Speaker C: To be a bust.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: Oh, wow.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: I think Caleb Williams is going to be a bust.
I don't know about realistically, like, career wise, but we're the fantasy show, so I'm going to keep it. Fantasy wise, I think he's going to be a bus. I don't see him doing that any better. Than Justin Fields has been doing in Chicago.
Chicago seems to spend a lot of money on not the right players, so I just can't get behind. He's got a lot of talent and I hope he proves me wrong, but I don't see him being that much of a fantasy impact in his first year. At least his first year.
[00:02:55] Speaker B: Wow, Lincoln, what do you got to.
[00:02:57] Speaker C: Say about Caleb Williams? And there's a lot to say about Caleb Williams. A lot.
He's probably spent a lot of time on Twitter. He's probably the most hated NFL prospect of my lifetime. That's still going to go number one because the gap between him and every other player in this draft is that big. Or at least every other quarterback in this draft.
I think just because of the way that he is able to run. And I mean, honestly, who's the Bears OC right now? Who did they end up hiring if they've hired anybody yet?
Let me check this actually, because their offensive coordinator is going to play a large part whether or not oh, it's Shane Waldron.
Okay, I don't hate Shane Waldron. Pretty mid, not going to lie, but he made Gino Smith good and he made Drew Locke look good as well. So if he can make those guys, I mean, Drew Locke led a game winning drive in Shane Waldron's offense. I haven't seen Drew Locke lead a game winning drive since I was in 9th grade. That's true. So I think if Caleb Williams obviously ends up going to Chicago, the mobility plus Shane Waldron's offense, I do think he will end up being good. I don't know if he's worth starting in his first year in like a ten man Redraft league. Yeah, but he should be one of the first five players off the board or one of the first three players off the board in a dynasty draft for sure. In my opinion, Chicago or not, it's Caleb Williams. The description in the mock draft says that the guy who made this pick, you'd have to go all the way back to 2012 and Andrew luck to find a QB that he'd take over. Caleb Williams, he's no joke as a prospect. He is the best prospect in the draft outside of maybe Marvin Harrison Jr. But I don't think there's any messing up Caleb Williams. I don't think it's possible.
So I think he's a boom. I don't know if it'll be like an elite rookie season fantasy wise, but he's a boom. I get him. He could be a second half demon especially if they're like down a bunch to these teams. He could just be airing that thing out. So I like Caleb Williams personally.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: All right, Zach, what do you got to say about the USC quarterback?
[00:04:58] Speaker D: I think I agree with Jake on this one because we know how he does not want to be on the bears. His dad has mentioned several times how he doesn't want to go number one overall because of the mean. If you're going to be this successful and this good at football, you're obviously going to be a high draft pick, which is going to put you in a worse situation because that's just how it works. But we see when Caleb Williams mindset, when his head isn't in the game, I mean, he wants to sit with his dogs and watch Netflix and stuff. So if his mind isn't in the game, he's obviously not going to perform and that's going to reflect the stat sheet. So in a fantasy looking at in a fantasy perspective mean, it's not looking good to me because if his mind's not in the game, then he's obviously not going to perform. So I don't know. I think it's going to be a bust in my opinion, just based off the recent comments that he's made on social media and just all the things surrounding him.
[00:05:55] Speaker B: Okay, well, I think we're looking too.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: Far into this guy.
[00:05:58] Speaker B: Yeah, probably.
Yeah. Caleb Williams to me, is one of the best talents we've ever seen.
I mean, he makes some incredible throws. Looking back at even this season in USC, in a season that was a little underwhelming, he made some incredible plays, whether it was through the air or on the ground, a real dual threat quarterback. And when you look at fantasy and rookie quarterbacks, I mean, CJ Straub was phenomenal last year. Justin Herbert, his rookie season was phenomenal. I think Caleb Williams has all the tools. When you look at a dual threat quarterback as a rookie with this high praise, I really like what he's going into, a decent offensive coordinator.
They have the most money in the league. So who knows if they go and get a Calvin Ridley or a Michael Williams or Michael Pittman Jr. They have DJ Moore already. So I think Caleb Williams, even if he doesn't want to be a bear, he's going to have to be a bear and he's going to have to perform. So in fantasy, I think he will be a boom. I think all the stars are aligned for him to be a very solid fantasy quarterback. Now, it may be a CJ stroud situation where he might start slow, have to acclimate to the league a little bit. But once that midseason mark hits, I think Caleb Williams will be a great, great quarterback to have on your team.
[00:07:06] Speaker C: Yeah. I think people are underrating. The offensive coordinator was awful in Chicago last year. Pieces on the offense outside of the offensive line, which is putrid but did take steps at the end of the year. The offense itself is not bad. It's DJ Moore, it's Khalil Herbert, it's Roshan Johnson. There is no wide receiver, too. You've got Cole Comet, but they have wide receiver. Two and three are awful, but they have money and they have multiple draft. They have multiple first round pick. So I mean, it could be Caleb Williams and then Roma Dunza.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:34] Speaker C: And that's a great offense.
[00:07:35] Speaker B: Yeah. This mock draft doesn't have them going receiver or offense at all in that 9th pick. Oh, no, no, they haven't. Uh, was it Dallas Turner?
[00:07:43] Speaker C: Yeah, it's Dallas.
[00:07:43] Speaker B: Yeah. So we won't be going over that 9th pick, but they definitely could go offense there to help Caleb Williams with the second pick, the Washington Commanders take LSU quarterback Jaden Daniels, Heisman winner. How are we feeling about this? Jaden Daniels? I like him as a prospect. How are we feeling? Fantasy.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: Just. I truly think Jaden Daniels is going to be. It's kind of crazy to say because I agree with Lincoln that Williams is, there's a far gap in between him and whoever's next as a football prospect.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:08:16] Speaker A: And I truly believe that Jane Daniels is that next guy. Like, I think he's got to be the next quarterback off the board.
[00:08:23] Speaker C: He has to disagree. I think as a football prospect, I like Drake may more, but purely fantasy.
[00:08:29] Speaker A: Wise, we are the student section. Fantasy show.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:08:34] Speaker A: But no, I think he will be a boom in fantasy this year. I think you can definitely take him late in rounds in like ten man leagues, twelve even eight man leagues. You could probably get him later as a QB. Two, because I don't know how many people are going to pick him up. And he could definitely be your starter by the end of the year solely because, one, he just doesn't turn the ball over that much. This past year at LSU, he had 40 passing touchdowns and four interceptions. That's like what, a ten to one rating?
[00:09:04] Speaker C: He is going to have to learn how to slide. Yeah, he will die if he does not learn how to slide.
[00:09:10] Speaker B: Take the hardest hits I've ever seen.
[00:09:12] Speaker A: But I mean, the dude just balls against good defenses. Like against, let's see here, Texas A and M. They had a great front seven last year. He threw 16 for 24, 235 forward touchdowns and no picks against Alabama. One of the best on the road. One of the best defenses in college football last year. 15 for 24, 219, two touchdowns. He did throw a pick that was off the tip and then he also rushed for 163 yards that game.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Cook him and Millro put it on last year.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: Just his rushing ability and he's a good pocket passer as well. There's no denying that. So I think he is an immediate if he goes to Washington, I mean he's got Terry McLaurin, he's got gosh, why am I blanking Jahan Dotson, he's got Curtis Samuel and I mean, they don't have the enemy anymore at their OC. So that it'll be Kingsbury.
[00:10:02] Speaker C: Yes, right. Cliff Kingsbury.
[00:10:04] Speaker A: I kind of like that with Jane Daniels as well. So I think there's a lot of good that could come out of him in fantasy and honestly, I wouldn't mind if he's my fantasy next year.
[00:10:14] Speaker C: Cliff Kingsbury is the OC that had Kyler Murray as like QB five in his hockey season.
[00:10:18] Speaker A: So I think he's a boom and I think he's going to be immediate fantasy impact.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't have much to add from a purely fantasy perspective. It's a similar thing to what people looked at with Anthony Richardson last year, but like on steroids.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah. I was just going to say this is another Anthony Richardson Richardson situation.
[00:10:36] Speaker C: Better.
He could be a horrible quarterback and I'd still start him in fantasy. I did the math on purely rushing alone. In his 2023 college season, he scored 173.4 total fantasy points. He had 1134 rushing yards and ten rushing touchdowns last season, which is unbelievable numbers on the ground.
[00:10:56] Speaker A: Looking at quarterback. It was against Florida and Florida was above average. He threw for almost 400 yards and.
[00:11:05] Speaker C: On twelve carries on twelve carries, 19 and a half yards per carry, six.
[00:11:10] Speaker A: Total touchdown or five total touchdown. He's so good.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: I honestly don't know how he'll translate to the NFL. I have no input on that. But I know the rushing and I know the athleticism will and I'd start him from day one. I'd pick him.
[00:11:23] Speaker B: It'll translate to fantasy.
[00:11:25] Speaker A: I'll tell you.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: I would confidently pick him as like my starting quarterback from week. Yeah, just because of how well he runs the ball. We saw it with Anthony Richardson and he's not even as talented of a runner as Jaden Daniels is. So I got nothing but praise for Jaden Daniels, fantasy wise, he's a superstar in my eyes.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: Absolutely. Yeah.
[00:11:43] Speaker D: I don't have anything much to add. Jaden Daniels, I went to the Alabama LSU game and he just torched our zone defense like it was nothing. They just send the receivers up the field and it just opened up gaps for, I mean, we see what Jaden Daniels can do with his legs. We just talked about it. I mean, it's so, and the way he can just throw the football, I mean, everything he mean, especially relating to fantasy, it's only going to be up from his career, especially his rookie mean, if he's able to stay mean, we're looking at a great fantasy rookie year. So. Yeah, I got nothing different to Dan.
[00:12:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Jaden Daniels, when you're looking at fantasy alone, could definitely without a doubt be better than Caleb Williams. When you're looking at fantasy. Jaden Daniels is one of the best runners we've seen in years. And when you add that with some of the best quarterback numbers that I've ever seen, he doesn't turn the ball over. He has an arm that can compete with anybody, extremely accurate, can throw on the run, and he's one of the best runners we've seen. It's a recipe for success. Now, will it translate to the NFL? I'm not sure, but I know it will translate to fantasy. So when you put him in with Washington, he's got Terry McLaurin, all these weapons, new coaching staff. We'll see how that goes. But I'm liking the way it's all panning out for Jaden Daniels, so. Absolutely. I think he will be a boom.
Much more likely than he will be a bust. So Jaden Daniels, that is that. Now let's move on.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: The commanders, do they even have a head coach yet? Oh, Dan Quinn.
[00:13:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:19] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:13:20] Speaker B: All right. Now moving on to the third pick, the New England Patriots take Drake may quarterback out of North Carolina.
This can go either way, really, fantasy wise, how are we feeling about Drake May on the Patriots?
[00:13:32] Speaker A: Mind you, I don't like, I feel like Drake May is like, I'm looking at his profile picture here and then it's next to a Patriots logo and it just fits perfectly.
[00:13:43] Speaker B: Yeah, it looks like a Patriot.
[00:13:44] Speaker A: I feel like I was like, yeah, that guy's a New England Patriots.
[00:13:47] Speaker B: That's a Patriot.
[00:13:49] Speaker A: I'm on the fence because I think Drake May has the potential to have a fantasy. Like, I think if he can come.
They were talking about how Mac Jones just completely lost over the locker room in New England. And obviously nobody was starting Mac Jones in fantasy football this past year or really anybody on that Patriots offense except for Ramadre week to week. Sometimes.
[00:14:13] Speaker C: He was hurt like the whole season.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: Anyway, so I really want to say bust because I kind of think that's where it's going. And I also think Drake May is just going to be like a worse version of Josh Allen.
Justin Herbert yeah, just like turn the ball over a in New England. I think New England's a perfect place for him to potentially succeed with. I just think it is. Their o line is still fairly can if they can stay healthy and protect Drake May. Yeah, he doesn't really have any weapons, which scares me because I don't.
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Have any receivers.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: I thought you said Al and I was like, who am I offending right now? I don't think there's anybody on the Patriots that I'm offending except for Pop Douglas. I respect him, but I don't see Drake May throwing for 300 yards a game, three touchdowns a game, and getting those fantasy points that you need. So I think he could definitely be a backup option in fantasy football this year, potentially, but I don't see him having immediate impact in fantasy football. His rookie season.
[00:15:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I settled earlier. I think he's the second best quarterback prospect in this draft, but I don't think he's going to be fantasy useful in the slightest in his rookie season. I don't think he's worth a draft pick. I don't think he'll be picked up from free agency at any point in the season unless he goes off for one game and someone snags him and throws him on his bench and then drops him the following week. And it's not because of him. He's a little bit of a developmental quarterback in my opinion. I don't think he's going to come into the league and immediately light it up. He totally could. He's got the talent. But in that offense with Alex van Peltzer offensive coordinator, I don't know a ton about him, but I don't know if he had an offensive coordinator job prior to the Patriots hiring other than in the past. But yeah, it's just a bad offense. Flat out. There's no way around it. There's not a single solid receiver that can play on the outside in that offense. Pop Douglas is good, but he's a slot guy and it's not perfect all around. The running backs are line, but the O line is not great. I don't know what the play calling will be like. I don't think he's going to be fantasy useful. He could be down the line. He could be a great quarterback in the future, but I think in 2024 he's going to be a non factor in fantasy football. In all honesty.
[00:16:30] Speaker D: Yeah, I agree with Lincoln. I don't really know too much about the Patriots offense. I don't really think they have much going for.
I mean, he did awesome in North Carolina, had some great games. It's just like, yeah, he is probably going to be more of a developmental quarterback. Hopefully they can give him time and hopefully they don't do them like they did. I mean, I know people go either way on that topic saying if Mac Jones was ready or if he was even a good NFL quarterback or if it was the system he was put in. But hopefully Drake May isn't a product of that Patriots and hopefully they can develop him properly because like Lincoln said, to Lincoln's point, he has the talent for it. But as far as fantasy mean, he's not going to make a huge shouldn't. I wouldn't draft May.
Yeah, you definitely should go other ways with the quarterback option for fantasy.
[00:17:25] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. I got to agree there. The Patriots, it's just tough because Drake May is going to be thrown into a hard situation with a completely new coaching staff. He's going to lose two of his starting offensive linemen with Trent Brown and I can't remember his name, but another one of their guards going into free agency, the receiving core is abysmal. They had three players in the top ten of the worst getting open percentage in the NFL. So you're not getting any help there and I don't think pop Douglas is a real eye opener. Receiver Drake May, I'm not saying he's not going to be great, but fantasy wise, year one, it's just not there. Maybe five years from now he'll be really good because he has the assets. He's six, 4230 runs extremely fast, can evade from pressure, but I just don't see it fantasy wise. Year one, I do think he's going to be a bust fantasy wise, not in the NFL, but fantasy wise, this is not his year. If you're going to look at a rookie quarterback, I'm definitely looking at Caleb Williams or Jaden Daniels or maybe somebody else down the line, I'm not sure, but that's Drake May. And with that, we're going to be right back after a short intermission, continuing our 2024 rookie analysis. See you soon.
[00:18:45] Speaker A: UvuA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: Welcome back, everybody. You are listening to WVOA, 90.7 FM, Tuscaloosa student section Fantasy Sports we're back continuing our 2024 rookie fantasy analysis with this mock draft from CBS Sports. We've gone through the first three picks, all quarterbacks, and now we're getting into something different. The fourth pick, according to CBS Sports, has Marvin Harrison Jr. Of Ohio State going to the Arizona Cardinals. They also have him as the best prospect in this draft entirely. The six foot four receiver to the Cardinals. They said they're looking for their next Larry Fitzgerald. Fantasy wise, do we think they get it in this season? How are we?
[00:19:42] Speaker A: I mean, I feel like we're all going to be on the same page here, so I'm not going to sit here and ramble.
Yes, I think he's going to be a boom of a wide receiver. Immediate impact. If the rumors are true and Hollywood.
[00:19:57] Speaker C: Brown does not come back, he's the.
[00:19:58] Speaker A: Wide receiver one on day one. Like week one, he will be wide receiver one. Whatever.
That's it. I think he's going to ball out.
There's so much to say about Marvin Harrison that it's kind of hard to put it together because I could just sit here and just praise him for so long. But he's going to be a generational talent and he's going to have a fantasy impact and he's going to be in lineups.
[00:20:24] Speaker C: Week one fantasy.
I don't have much else to say. I like Kyler Murray as a quarterback. I think he can handle a fantasy wide receiver one. He's done it at least once or twice in his career with dhop and even Marquise Brown. I think last, not this past year, but the year before that was pretty fantasy relevant. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is a superior wide receiver as a prospect to both of them, and he'll probably be a superior wide receiver to a 36 year old DeAndre Hopkins week one and a 36 year old or 32, he's not that old. But an older DeAndre Hopkins in year one in that offense was like a top 15 fantasy wide receiver. I'm picking Marvison Harrison Jr. Or not.
[00:21:02] Speaker A: Marvinson, that's hard.
[00:21:04] Speaker B: Marvison Marvin's room.
[00:21:06] Speaker C: Yeah. Maserati.
[00:21:07] Speaker B: Marv, shout out Gus Johnson.
[00:21:09] Speaker C: I'm picking him as early as I pick him in the second round. I'd borderline pick him in the late first round. I think he's a wide receiver one from the second you draft him, I don't think there's going to be any question about it. And I think week one, he's going to be projected like 17 fantasy points.
[00:21:23] Speaker B: Probably.
[00:21:24] Speaker C: Don't overthink that one. He's a first two round pick.
If you want to pick him as early as like five. Honestly, wouldn't even sweat it.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: Probably.
[00:21:33] Speaker C: He's that good of a player. I don't have anything else to say. That's a top ten wide receiver immediately.
[00:21:38] Speaker D: Yeah, I don't have much else to say, either. I mean, as long as Kyler Murray can stay healthy, get back from that injury, it's just going to make Marvin Harrison that much better. I mean, to think that he could be like a fifth pick that Lincoln just said, I mean, that's honestly crazy to think. But it's not that crazy, honestly, because Marvin Harrison is just like, he's that guy. So, yeah, I don't have much else to say.
[00:22:04] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Marvin Harrison Jr. To me, has the possibility to finish top five in Fantasy at the end of the season. It's all there. You're going to have Kyler Murray, who was doing crazy things with the Andre Hopkins when they were together.
This is an absolute no brainer. One of the best prospects we've seen of all time with Kyler Murray and the Cardinals as their wide receiver. One that's basically a guarantee. It's a match made in heaven for Harrison Jr. Like Lincoln was saying, he can go top five in your first round and it'd be perfectly okay because he is that dang good. Marvin Harrison Jr. Is that guy. And he's going to be fantasy relevant from day one and for years and years to come. So that's a boom right there. And next, another guy, another receiver who was with Jaden Daniels. Malik neighbors goes five out of LSU to the Chargers. I really like this personally. How are we feeling about Malik neighbors to the Chargers fantasy?
[00:22:59] Speaker A: Like, I'm not going to lie. I don't really like it.
I'm looking at this other mock draft. I'm going to switch it up a little. Know. And I'm looking at this other mock draft that I have pulled up and they have the Chargers taking Brock Bowers at pick five. And I like that significantly more than taking neighbors. Like the Chargers are basically saying, yeah, we really screwed up last year with taking Quentin Johnston and he doesn't have a role in our offense anymore.
[00:23:24] Speaker C: Well, Quentin Johnson's also bad.
[00:23:27] Speaker A: Exactly.
I think it would be silly for the Chargers to take neighbors a little. I mean, maybe I feel like I'm going to get a lot of hate for saying that. For them saying it'silly to take him. I mean, if they do take him, I think he's going to be a boom. He's a stud wide receiver. We saw him in Brian Denny's stadium drop numbers.
[00:23:49] Speaker B: Yeah, he cooked really bad.
[00:23:51] Speaker A: Yeah, he did really bad against probably the best secondary in college football. Maybe a little bias.
He's the real deal. And if he gets a quarterback like Justin Herbert on his team, yeah, it's going to be scary things like maybe producing better numbers than Marv.
[00:24:11] Speaker B: I think that's a real possibility.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: But I'm going to say the Chargers are going to take Brock Bowers, and I like that even more. I think Brock Bowers would do really good things in that Chargers offense.
[00:24:20] Speaker C: I'll stick with Malik neighbors here and I think it's a boom. I think we're looking at another early round draft pick in fantasy. I think you can pick him in the third if they take him, to be honest, because Keenan Allen obviously great wide receiver, but he's what, like 33 ish years old now?
There's absolutely no doubt in my mind that he will not play 17 games next season. He hasn't done it for numerous years in a row now. He was already a relatively injury riddled wide receiver before he got old, and now he is old. I don't think they bring back Mike Williams, so I don't think there's an open spot there. And Malik neighbors is so far clear of Quentin Johnson as a prospect and as a player that I don't even need to talk about it. No, the quarterback's Justin Herbert. The offensive coordinator is Kellen Moore. You can't ask for a better situation than what they have for Malik neighbors waiting in Los Angeles, not San Diego waiting in.
Yeah, I have. I'd be fully confident taking him in the late second or third or like anywhere in the third round. So Malik neighbors is an elite wide receiver prospect. He's an elite football player, and the Chargers will have no problem making him an extremely fantasy relevant player from day one.
[00:25:28] Speaker D: Yeah, for reference, I mean, he dropped 171. He had 171 yards and a touchdown on ten receptions versus Alabama. And I know it's Mississippi State and they did not do great last year, but I mean, he had 239 yards with two touchdowns and 13 receptions. That is insane. Malik neighbors, I get what Jake was saying with Brock Bowers, but you could go either way both ways. I do not think are bad picks, but Malik neighbors just talking about him specifically, he's going to make a really good fantasy impact. I think he's definitely going to be a great option for the Chargers especially going along with Keenan Allen if he can stay healthy. I mean, that's just going to make their offense that much better.
[00:26:13] Speaker B: Yeah. Malik neighbors to the Chargers is an absolute match made in heaven because cutting Mike Williams saves the Chargers $22 million in cap space. That's a lot, a lot of money.
[00:26:22] Speaker C: Yeah, he's not coming back.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: Yeah, if you just cut, they're $20 million under the cap, it would be a Chargers thing. Yeah, just cutting Mike Williams gets them free actual money to spend. So they're going to cut Mike Williams, bring in Malik neighbors. Keenan Allen's not going to play a ton of games. Malik neighbors is going to be the wide receiver one in multiple games and with Justin Herbert and John Harbaugh. And Kellen Moore is actually not the offensive coordinator. It's Ravens legend Greg Roman.
[00:26:48] Speaker A: Please don't call him.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: And also, this mock draft is not Kyle Stackpole. He just wrote the article. It's Ryan Wilson and Rick Spielman.
[00:26:54] Speaker B: Yeah, I was going to say Rick Spielman's making all these picks that I'm looking at, but Lake neighbors to me is an absolute dream fit. He's absolutely what the Chargers need, and that's a playmaker because the Chargers haven't had a playmaker since Keenan Allen, probably like seven years ago when he know injured every other game. So Malik neighbors with Justin Herbert, match made in Heaven Fantasy wise, he could be a top five receiver in Fantasy because he's that dang good, especially alongside Justin Herbert. We saw Keenan Allen's numbers before he was hurt all the time. It was incredible. And I think that could be Malik neighbors as well. So that's a boom fantasy guy to me right there. Probably maybe a first round pick in some drafts. I don't know. I don't think it's a crazy thing to say he's that good, but definitely 2nd, 3rd round type of guy. Probably. Now in this mock draft between five and 13, there is no fantasy prospects. It's all Oline defense type of guys.
And all the way until 13 is where we see our next fantasy relevant player. And that is quarterback JJ McCarthy going to the Las Vegas Raiders. Now, this is crazy because JJ McCarthy, I've seen not go in the first round. I've seen him go top ten. So McCarthy to the Raiders fantasy wise, how are we feeling?
[00:28:09] Speaker A: I need to take a deep breath before I start talking in case I start ranting about JJ McCarthy.
I think it's funny here because they have a little quote that says, I think there'll be competition to start and that's with Aidan O'Connell, of course. But know that JJ is going to be our guy and it kind of fears me. I would be feared, scared, worried, anxious. I could keep going as a Raiders fan if I hear my GM or organization say that JJ McCarthy is going to be our guy because he's not that guy. Simply and for fantasy value, he's not going to be that guy in Fantasy of now, don't get me wrong, he could succeed in the NFL. I know there's a lot of hate around JJ McCarthy, but in the right system he's definitely a game manager. What we thought Brock Purdy was, even though he's not a game manager anymore. But McCarthy could be that game manager and win a couple of football games for your team. But he's not going to put up the stats to have relevance in fantasy football.
I don't think he'll get drafted in fantasy football at all this year. I really don't think he will.
[00:29:17] Speaker B: Not crazy to say that.
[00:29:19] Speaker A: So yeah, I think he's going to be a bust for fantasy, but I hope the best form. I can't believe I just said that, but fantasy wise, he won't touch my roster or anybody's roster, I don't think.
[00:29:31] Speaker C: Now, my initial reaction to this was absolutely not. No way. But it's a purely fantasy perspective and the kid can Anthony, what's his last name?
Antonio Pierce. That's his name.
He's a good coach. I like him as a coach. He's not an offensive guy, but even Aiden O'Connell was not too horrible fantasy wise playing in Las Vegas. You've got to remember Devontae Adams will be back. They can't seem to get rid of him even though he wants to leave. So I would bet that he'll be back. I would highly doubt. Even if they don't re sign Josh Jacobs, they've got Zamir White. It's not a horrible, it's a pretty good running back option. Hunter Renfro is there, Jacoby Myers is there, Michael Mayer's there.
I mean, it's a good offense all around position. Player wise, the offensive line could use work and JJ McCarthy is going to have to adjust to that because the Michigan offensive line was unbelievable.
But yeah, I really do think there could be some back end fantasy value here. I don't think he start. I highly doubt that he's a startable fantasy quarterback in a ten man league in 2024, but I really don't think it's impossible just because of how well he's able to move with his legs and the weapons are there for him to. If he's able to convert his talent to the NFL, the weapons are there for it to look really good.
I'm on the fence here, but I wouldn't hate him as like a late round backup quarterback. I really wouldn't, to be honest. And I hate saying that because he beat Alabama, but really, really wouldn't hate it as a late round like flyer option at QB. I would pick him in Dynasty in the second or third round.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:31:15] Speaker C: If he ends up in Vegas.
[00:31:18] Speaker D: Yeah. As far as just based off his career, I think JJ McCarthy could develop into a solid QB, but this is a fantasy show and JJ McCarthy, especially in his rookie year, he's not going to give you any value now. All things considering. Maybe, say your quarterback goes down with an injury, maybe you just desperately need somebody. JJ McCarthy probably will be on the waivers because he might not be in certain drafted in certain leagues. So maybe you need to pick him up and that might not be a horrible option. So yeah, that's all I really got to say about JJ McCarthy and his fantasy value. So that's probably just going to be a waiver wire pickup for most people in most leagues.
[00:31:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I got to agree there. JJ McCarthy to me is what casuals think Brock Purdy is. JJ McCarthy is kind of a game.
[00:32:08] Speaker C: I think he's a better quarterback than Brock Purdy.
[00:32:10] Speaker B: Don't say all that.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: He should take over the Niners, should draft Jim McCarthy.
[00:32:14] Speaker B: Yeah, I think we trade up to one and draft JJ McCarthy. But to me, McCarthy on the Raiders is not the best fit, bro.
[00:32:21] Speaker A: Could you imagine that?
[00:32:22] Speaker B: I would cry.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: I think Jamie would like, I'd stop.
[00:32:26] Speaker B: Being an Iron fan.
[00:32:27] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:32:28] Speaker B: I'd go to like the Dolphins or something, but Jay Z McCarthy to the Raiders? I don't know how much I like this fit because Antonio Pierce, he's going to be his first year as the full time head coach now, he beat Kansas City in Arrowhead on Christmas last year. That's amazing. He has a big win, but in that game, I'm pretty sure Aiden O'Connell had like two completions. So for JJ McCarthy, it doesn't look too good. The defense is what is really the focus for the Raiders. And when you're looking at fantasy, that's not going to get JJ McCarthy very many points you're going to pair him with. Jacoby Myers is a great receiver, too. A aging Devontae Adams and Josh Jacobs probably won't be there next year. So who knows what that running back situation is going to look like. I'm not liking J. J. McCarthy for the first year in fantasy. That's not to say he can develop down the line, but when you're looking at fantasy, I could definitely see him being undrafted and a waiver wire pickup later if he gets a decent opportunity or if he's panning out. But with that, we're going to be right back after a short intermission, continuing our 2024 rookie fantasy analysis. We'll see you soon.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: WVuaFM, Tuscaloosa, you.
[00:33:56] Speaker B: Welcome back to WVUA, 90.7 FM, Tuscaloosa student Section Fantasy Sports we're going to jump right back into our 2024 Rookie fantasy analysis following the CBS Sports mock draft. From 13 is where they take JJ McCarthy. We have a pretty big jump down to 17. Shout out Terry on Arnold going 15 to the Colts. Roll tide. 17 the Jacksonville Jaguars and the blonde haired Trevor Lawrence take the blonde hair Romo Dunze from insane Washington. Yes, that's the best I got.
[00:34:33] Speaker A: I loved the connection down there.
[00:34:35] Speaker B: So Jacksonville gets Romo Dunze a replacement for Calvin Ridley. How are we feeling fantasy wise?
[00:34:41] Speaker A: I mean, I love it. I think Roman Dunze is a fantastic wide receiver. Six 3215.
He can spread a defense with his speed. He can go get the jump ball. I mean, last year he had 92 catches for 1600 yards and 13 touchdowns. I mean, he just balled out and it's not even like he's going to a bad team in this. I can't believe he's still on the board at 17, to be honest with you.
You know what? I don't care. I think he's the second best receiver in this draft class.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Really?
[00:35:16] Speaker A: I think he is.
[00:35:17] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:35:19] Speaker A: Yes. Just behind Marvin Harrison.
I don't want to say that. I was going to say he could even be better than Marvin Harrison.
[00:35:28] Speaker C: Talk. Honestly, I think it's hard because neighbors.
[00:35:30] Speaker B: Is an LSU receiver. An LSU receiver is like I would.
[00:35:33] Speaker C: Not Marvin Harrison Jr. For the record, I don't think he's close to Marvin Harrison.
[00:35:38] Speaker A: No, I don't think he is either. But I think he's definitely the second best receiver in the class and going to Jacksonville in an offense or just like a team that's close to making a deep playoff run, I think they just need to tighten up a little bit, fill a couple spots. I mean, if you get Trevor Lawrence at the helm, you still have ETN in the backfield and then your receivers are Calvin Ridley adonze.
[00:36:01] Speaker C: There's no way Ridley comes true, just because it says it here. I don't know what the draft compensation is that they'll get, but apparently they get draft compensation if they yeah, he ain't coming back.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: But even without Ridley, you still have a Dundee, you have Kirk, you have Evan Ingram's a great tight end. He's basically a receiver, too. They have a great offense. They just need to fix that defense up a little bit. But like, oh my gosh, that's a heck of a wide receiver core. If you get, and I think he is a because we have to talk about fantasy.
[00:36:30] Speaker C: Of course.
[00:36:31] Speaker A: I think he makes an immediate fantasy impact. Like he could be a wide receiver too this year. Definitely a flex guy. I think he goes around, I don't know what round, maybe like six or seven in fantasy drafts, but yeah, I think I would want him on my fantasy team for sure.
[00:36:50] Speaker C: I might be one of the biggest Roma Dunze fans on the planet.
[00:36:53] Speaker A: No, seriously, he might be a jersey.
[00:36:58] Speaker C: Immediately if he falls to 17. First of all, fire everybody who's picking above the Jaguars and that isn't in the top five because I think there's absolutely no way that should be available.
[00:37:11] Speaker B: No, I think he goes nine.
[00:37:13] Speaker C: I think he's clear of neighbors and I think past pick eight, you're doing your team a disservice if you're not picking him.
[00:37:19] Speaker A: Your broncos could take him at twelve.
[00:37:22] Speaker C: If he's on the board at twelve and he's not wearing no, if he's on the board at twelve and he's not wearing orange next season in Denver, I'm going to throw up on my tv.
[00:37:34] Speaker B: In all honesty, hottest tv is crazy.
[00:37:38] Speaker C: The show caption it's going to be.
[00:37:40] Speaker A: Maserati, Marvin and Lincoln throwing up on tv.
[00:37:44] Speaker C: But yeah, if he lands with Jacksonville and Ridley's not there and he's the number one receiver on the team, I'm picking him in the second round, I might pick him in the first round. That's unbelievable value and that's an unbelievable landing spot for an unbelievable player. There's no other way around it. He's six foot, 3215 pounds, runs routes like some of the best in the NFL, and he's one of the greatest jump ball receivers that I've watched in college in my lifetime. To be honest, there's nothing stopping me from picking Romo Dunze in the second round of a fantasy. So. Especially if he ends up in Jacksonville.
[00:38:20] Speaker B: Yeah, Romo Denze is what we thought Quentin Johnston was going to be.
[00:38:23] Speaker C: Now, Romo dunze is so far clear of Quentin Johnson.
[00:38:26] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's what he was supposed to be. Quentin Johnston. But Romo odenze clears him heavily.
[00:38:31] Speaker D: Yeah, Romo odenze balled out against some great teams. Texas, Oregon. Even got a little bit bald out a little bit against Michigan. I mean, Romo dente, with Calvin Ridley out, that's only going to boost his fantasy value even more. Him being more, I mean, I don't see him not being the number one option for that Jacksonville team. Trevor Lawrence, if he can stay healthy, that's even better.
Romo Denze, if he falls to 17, that's a steal for Jacksonville. That's an absolute steal for them. So, yeah, I love it.
[00:39:03] Speaker C: Out of first round cornerback prospects all season.
[00:39:06] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. Romo dunze here, if he falls to Jacksonville, somehow, by some miracle, then he is going to be an instant guy to play on your fantasy team, especially in those ten man, twelve man leagues. He's going to be that flex wide receiver, too. I could see him playing in some eight man leagues. Romo dunze is that good, especially if he's in Jacksonville. I'm thinking outside of Christian Kirk, he's instantly that wide receiver. One, you're pairing him with zay flowers and a high powered offense with Trevor Lawrence and Travis ETn, that offense is going to be able to do anything. And odunze. I mean, come on. There's no way he falls that far because he is so, so good.
That's really all I can say. He's going to be an instant boom type of guy in fantasy.
[00:39:48] Speaker C: The only thing I want to add is, because I know when you're picking in fantasy drafts, it's easy to overlook rookies because you haven't seen them play in the NFL. And it's easy to sit there. I do it myself. It's easy to sit there and doubt, like, is this guy really going to translate? I can promise you that Romo dunze, if he ends up in Jacksonville, will translate. You think back to the rookie seasons that Jamar Chase had. He was a second round pick as a rookie. I think Justin Jefferson obviously was, like, undrafted in fantasy as a rookie because he was like the 20th overall pick. And if you're playing in a league with casual players, if he's the 17th overall pick, they're not even going to look at him. No. And I would get him off the board as fast as I could if I had the chance. Or if I have the chance.
Do not doubt Roma dunze. And do not doubt the rookie season that he could have.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah. And when you're looking at all these receiver prospects, it's extremely situational when it comes to fantasy because Odunze high powered offense and same with neighbors and Harrison. Next up, pick 18, the Cincinnati Bengals somehow, some way land Brock power.
[00:40:47] Speaker C: Yeah, we can keep this one quick.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: Tight end from Georgia. I think it's a very quick consensus on how we feel about this first round draft pick.
[00:40:55] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't even want to talk about this one.
[00:40:57] Speaker C: You guys know it.
[00:40:58] Speaker B: Yeah, he's going to be top two.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: China was throwing to that guy with Jamar Chase on the outside, t Higgins and maybe t Higgins. I guess they franchised.
[00:41:08] Speaker B: They did. He's going to be there.
[00:41:10] Speaker C: So Jamar Chase, t Higgins are their top two options. And nobody's guarding Brock Bowers.
[00:41:14] Speaker B: Nope.
[00:41:15] Speaker C: What is going to happen?
[00:41:17] Speaker B: Yeah, no, that's a quick one. Brock Bowers might finish as the tight.
[00:41:19] Speaker C: End one next year because that's Sam Laporto's situation. On steroids.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: On literal, some crazy steroids. And now we take a big jump to the 23rd pick where the Houston Texans take Brian Thomas Jr. Wide receiver out of LSU, Malik neighbors partner in crime.
I haven't seen a ton of Brian Thomas Jr. Stuff. I've really only seen a lot of hype from him in the last couple of weeks. But I mean, the Houston Texans, that's a great fit. How are we?
[00:41:48] Speaker A: I don't. I don't really know. I kind of agree. There wasn't much talk around him going into this.
[00:41:53] Speaker C: I mean, trading up for him.
[00:41:55] Speaker A: We still have a little bit to get.
[00:41:57] Speaker B: Yeah, they have him trading up with Cleveland.
[00:41:58] Speaker C: Oh, wait, no, that's the Deshaun Watson pick.
[00:42:00] Speaker A: We still have a little bit to go to the draft. I'm sure it's sometime in April, I believe I'm assuming, because it normally is. So this could change very drastically until draft day. But I'm not a big fan of the Brian Thomas pick, to be honest. I think the Texans have enough with Nico Collins and Tank Dell that they could go use free. I feel like they have to have a lot of cap.
[00:42:23] Speaker B: They definitely do. I think they're the top ten.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: So I feel like you should use a free agency signing for maybe like a third wide receiver instead of using a draft pick. I think they could go fill another hole, maybe another o lineman, protect stroud.
[00:42:37] Speaker C: Or need an edge rusher or go defense to match with will go defense.
[00:42:41] Speaker A: I think they should go defense because.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: They have Jonathan Bernard, but he's a.
[00:42:44] Speaker A: Free agent, so I'm not a big fan of this pick and I don't think solely because of don't even if he does go there, I don't think he does much fantasy wise behind Nico Collins and Tank Doe.
[00:42:53] Speaker C: Not with those have I'm pretty on the fence. I have not seen a lot of Brian Thomas Jr. Tape either. I saw a little bit shout out the OSh NFL posted a couple clips that I watched and he looks good. I saw him in a couple games during the season and I mean he's definitely a playmaker and it could be another situation where you're looking at a guy that gets overlooked because he was the second wide receiver on an elite LSU offense. We've seen that story before and we know how it ends.
So I would not overlook him in late rounds. I doubt he's a top even ten. He's probably going to go undrafted in most fantasy drafts. I would not doubt him. And he's definitely going to be a guy that I'm looking at at like last three rounds. It's kind of like a flyer bench spot because there is a ceiling there. There definitely is. I just don't know what it is yet.
[00:43:40] Speaker D: Yeah. As far as his career at Houston, I don't think he's going to bought for the Texans just due to their offense being pretty solidified as of the moment, especially their receiver core. But we know the history of LSU receivers. We know what they can do with Justin Jefferson Demarte. So the list goes.
He could bought for any other team, the Texans. I don't think it's going to be one of them. So as of his rookie season, fantasy wise, I don't think he's going to produce much value, but I'm definitely going to keep an eye on him in the future.
[00:44:20] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure. Brian Thomas just looking at his measurables. 64205.
[00:44:27] Speaker C: That guy's huge.
[00:44:27] Speaker B: Out of LSU, which is wide receiver u yeah, 17 tuddies he runs like a 4445.
I'm pretty sure he's going this high just because of those measurables and what he can be as a prospect.
[00:44:41] Speaker C: He was great in LSU.
[00:44:43] Speaker B: Yeah, he was. And especially if you pair him with a guy like CJ Stroud, that could be amazing. But when you draft him into this offense, he's probably going to be the receiver three, maybe two, because you're going to have tank Dell ahead of him. Who yes, he was hurt, but his rookie season was incredible. And then Nico Collins had a complete breakout season last year. He was incredible over a thousand yards. Brian Thomas to me in his rookie season won't be that fantasy guy you're looking for. Could be a good dynasty type of guy, but when you're looking in that 810 man league, he's going to go undrafted. Could be a pretty cool little draft. Sorry, waiver wire pickup down the line. But those deeper leagues, those 12, 14, 16 man leagues, I could see him being one of those guys to be taken in the later rounds. Brian Thomas, I think there's a lot of potential for him to be really good, just not yet. And then our last fantasy prospect in the first round is Keon Coleman, wide receiver out of Florida State, going to the Tampa Bay Buccaneers at 26. Let's finish off this first round. How are we feeling about Keon Coleman?
[00:45:43] Speaker A: I really like this pick fancy wise for the Bucks. I think if they take Keon Coleman, that's pretty much saying Mike Evans won't be on our team next year because he's basically a Mike Evans wide receiver. And why would you take two? I mean, this guy's six. 4215.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: That's just Mike Evans. Yeah.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: It's literally Mike Evans.
So you're not going to have two jump ball receivers on the same. It just won't happen. So if Mike Evans leaves, maybe he'll come to Baltimore. That'd be really awesome. And they take Keon Coleman. I think he does have immediate impact in fantasy. Obviously, Chris Godwin, I guess, would still be considered wide receiver one, but Keon Coleman could take that over very quickly if they use him like they use Mike Evans. Yeah.
So I think he's a good late round fantasy guy. If you have a keeper, could you could possibly get him late enough that you could keep him for the following seasons. So I really like that.
[00:46:39] Speaker C: Yeah. Not going to lamb out on Keona Coleman, Tampa Bay, whatever the destination is, I'm out. Especially if Mike Evans is there. He'll be completely useless. He's not even worth touching in drafts if Mike Evans and Chris Godwin are there. But I just don't love him as a prospect. I don't think the route running is there to create separation.
I don't think that the high end, like top of the line speed is there. He's a fast player, but you need a four three or four four to be a true speed guy in the. He can. Sure, he can go up and get it. He's huge. We watched him do it all year at Florida State, but I just don't think that being only a jump ball receiver translates to the NFL anymore. I don't think it does, and I don't think Keon Coleman is going to be an impact player from day one until he can develop another aspect of his game to be a first. Because I don't think any other aspect of his game right now, outside of his physicality and hands is first round NFL worthy flyers on him in late rounds. Maybe I'm with that dynasty leagues. Obviously you're picking him because he's a top five wide receiver off the board, but he's not moving me in any redraft league for ten or twelve.
[00:47:49] Speaker D: Man.
[00:47:51] Speaker C: I'm just not a huge Keon Coleman guy as a prospect.
[00:47:54] Speaker D: Sure, I think this is great for their future, especially with Tampa Bay. I mean, Mike Evans, he's getting older and Tampa has only had Mike Evans for a long time. So Keon Coleman to just add on to that would be great for him in the future. But as of right now, fantasy value, I do not see Keon Coleman just absolutely bawling out. I don't see him being a flex guy. I don't really see him being your wide receiver. One, definitely not. Or two, but he had a great game against LSU. Nine receptions with 122 yards and three touchdowns, which he had some great games, great highlights to the year. But it's just obviously if he'll be able to translate to the NFL and as of right now, I don't think he can translate. So maybe in the distant future you can keep an eye on him. Maybe keep an eye on him for waiver wires if he does have a midseason breakout. But I just don't see it right now.
[00:48:51] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm going to keep this quick with Keon Coleman.
I just don't like him this year coming out as a rookie because he's going to go to Tampa. Decent situation, whatever, but his college stats are just not eye popping. You're really drafting him as a prospect.
Multiple games throughout the college season. He's held under three catches. Really the bulk of his games. Really, all of his stats came in that LSU game. So I'm not the biggest Keon Coleman guy. Again, as a prospect, it's all there. Six four. Absolute beast to be that Mike Evans replacement. But as for fantasy purposes, he's just not the guy that you're going to want this season because with Chris Godwin and Mike Evans presumably still being there, he's completely irrelevant. So outside of dynasty, sure, you can.
[00:49:38] Speaker C: Go take him, but I also don't think there's any way that the Bucks let Mike Evans go. He's probably the greatest wide receiver in their franchise right now.
[00:49:46] Speaker B: He absolutely is.
[00:49:47] Speaker C: And if you're watching Keon Coleman tape and you're blown away, I think you might be highlight watching.
[00:49:52] Speaker B: Absolutely.
[00:49:53] Speaker C: Because full games don't, they're not eye popping.
[00:49:55] Speaker B: I mean, he had like four or five games with three catches or under, so not big on Keon Coleman. But that's going to finish it for this episode. Thank you all for tuning in to WVUA 90.7 FM, Tuscaloosa student section, fantasy sports. We'll see you next Monday night. Peace.
