Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Hello, everyone. You're listening to the student section, NFL on WVUA 90.7, the capstone. Make sure to check us live streaming on live and tune in 365 Apple podcasts and, of course, Spotify. I'm your host for tonight, Jalen Brooks, as usual, as always. And I got my co host with me. I got Tanner Thompson. What up? Connor rolls.
[00:00:29] Speaker C: Hello. Hello.
[00:00:29] Speaker B: And Evan Cisaneros.
[00:00:31] Speaker D: How you doing?
[00:00:31] Speaker B: We're all doing pretty well.
Well, we're back on our part two know, free agency and reporting on rumors and just kind of just hanging in there. So, like, per usual, this is going to be more of a jazz session.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: So we're just going to a jazz session.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: Keep it nice and chill, laid back. Just a casual barbershop conversation. I feel like now, but before we get into that, Connor, you had your playoff game. Why don't you tell us a little bit about that? You came in here hot. Yeah.
[00:01:02] Speaker C: The playoff game started at 530. Just sprinted over here so I could make the show. We won by 20. A good, nice.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: Sprinted to his car.
[00:01:10] Speaker C: Yeah, sprinted to my car. Not sprinted to the station.
[00:01:12] Speaker A: Sprinted from the rec center to here.
[00:01:15] Speaker B: That's an athlete, right?
[00:01:16] Speaker C: Sprinted to my car, hopped in, drove about a minute, and then we got a smooth 2020 point dub. So it was good. I had a smooth 13 points. 1313, I think it was. Nine rebounds and three assists, almost a double double.
[00:01:36] Speaker B: There you go. How many minutes and how many minutes did you start?
[00:01:39] Speaker C: Yeah, I started.
I think I played around 40 minutes games. I would say I played 25, 30 minutes.
[00:01:46] Speaker B: Okay, so we got your coach town civil. You're out there. That's a long time.
[00:01:50] Speaker C: I know. I mean, the guys we were playing were pretty small, so it was kind of just baby food, barbecue chicken down there.
[00:01:55] Speaker A: They needed Connor out there.
[00:01:57] Speaker C: Mind you, everybody, I am six. 3250.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: What are we doing, man?
[00:02:01] Speaker B: Come on.
[00:02:02] Speaker A: Hey, time out. Before this show went live, we actually were on the topic of height, and he said six two or six three.
[00:02:11] Speaker C: And a half. Six three.
[00:02:12] Speaker B: Okay. It's grown every time. No, I'm just playing. I'm not. You're taller than me, and I think I'm six two and a half. Or like he said.
[00:02:20] Speaker A: You were taller than him, though.
[00:02:21] Speaker C: Yeah. You are taller than me.
[00:02:22] Speaker B: I'm taller than you. Yeah.
[00:02:23] Speaker C: We measured that.
[00:02:25] Speaker B: Did we?
[00:02:25] Speaker A: I forget I've said this before, but what kind of sucks is I'm normal. Like, again, I'm six foot 220, and I'm normally a pretty big guy, but now I do a show with Connor and Jalen, who are both north. Who knows how tall Connor is, but I'm guessing you're both north of 62 and still heavier than me. Man, it sucks.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: It's honestly a great feeling looking down on people.
[00:02:47] Speaker B: Honestly, I was thinking about the other day, and have you guys seen that trend of that TikTok trend of where you put your phone up to your height and then you look down through your camera?
[00:02:57] Speaker A: Yeah, I have seen that.
[00:02:58] Speaker B: I did it the other day, and it tripped me out. I was like, this is how people view me.
[00:03:03] Speaker C: So what really tripped me out is I took a picture last year of just, like, our friends and stuff, and I didn't realize my head is over the refrigerator, so I was like, oh, that's a little scary.
[00:03:14] Speaker B: So you're saying your fridge is taller than you? Is that.
[00:03:16] Speaker C: No, I'm taller than my fridge.
[00:03:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:03:18] Speaker A: I think I'm taller than my fridge as well.
[00:03:20] Speaker C: All right.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: I may just have a short fridge.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: But a mini fridge.
[00:03:24] Speaker A: No, it's a normal fridge. It's actually a new fridge, mind you.
[00:03:27] Speaker B: Okay, moving on up.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: Balling.
[00:03:29] Speaker B: Little flex.
[00:03:30] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:03:31] Speaker C: Oh, we're clapping.
[00:03:32] Speaker B: Oh, that was just a solo clap. I'm just by myself on that one.
Well, on that notice, let me go ahead and pivot back to NFL conversation. So we might as well get on topic by starting with some of the recent rumors out there, some of the big things floating around in just the news world, I guess, of the NFL.
Let me start with the hottest news. In my opinion, baby gronk is retiring from.
[00:03:57] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. Is that actually true?
[00:04:00] Speaker B: I don't know.
He posted the video. Yeah. Really? He posted a video saying he's dude from football.
[00:04:07] Speaker A: That's got to be his dad, right?
[00:04:08] Speaker C: No.
I feel bad for Rabbi Gronk because, like you said, his dad is just.
[00:04:14] Speaker A: His dad was constantly shoving him into some version of limelight because he just wanted the attention. I think that's the vibes I got. You see what will Compton was saying? The bus with the boys got the podcast with him and Taylor Luan. He was saying that his dad, or baby rock's dad, excuse me, would reach out to the show constantly and beg them to have him on. And Will Compton has said before, they didn't really mess with just kind of the whole thing because he felt that it was a little weird that his dad was trying to push his kid, who's obviously young, into this spotlight, but, wow, man, that's crazy.
[00:04:48] Speaker B: And in that video, he literally says, my dad heads dumb. He literally says, really? It's because of my dad.
[00:04:53] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:04:55] Speaker B: It's too much pressure. It's because of my dad. That's crazy. He literally just walks into, like, the sun, dude. Into the sun.
[00:05:02] Speaker C: Into the sun.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: I mean, like, you know, into the.
[00:05:04] Speaker A: Into the horizon.
[00:05:04] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I got you. But if it.
[00:05:06] Speaker C: Not the sun. Not the sun.
[00:05:07] Speaker B: Not the actual sun.
I think it might be a little too hot for him to do that if I had to take.
[00:05:13] Speaker A: Educated little far away.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: All right, so moving back to actual NFL news, let's go ahead and talk about Justin Fields a little bit. We're picking up some steam on these Justin Fields rumors. There's a little bit of noise being said that he's a favorite to go end up on the Steelers, but I've also heard that he's most likely to end up in his hometown, Atlanta, Georgia.
[00:05:33] Speaker C: I would love to see him in Atlanta now. I think the thing I would love to see the most is them trade down. You got Justin Fields, DJ Moore, and think. And with. With Cole Comet at the tight end, I think that offense is destined for greatness.
[00:05:48] Speaker A: Who do you want them to trade down to if they want to get Marvin Harrison Jr. Are you saying they trade down from nine or they trade from one?
[00:05:55] Speaker C: From one.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: Okay, so where do you want.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: I would mean because Marvin Harrison.
[00:06:00] Speaker A: Good chance he still goes top five.
[00:06:02] Speaker C: Oh, no, I'm not saying trade down below five. I'm just saying if Washington really wants Caleb Williams, that already, they played their cards way too early with getting Cliff Kingsbury. They're doing so much with the whole Caleb Williams and all the USC stuff. So I feel like they played their cards a little too early where we know they won on that.
You know, if Chicago can get a haul from Washington, that would be ideal. And then you could take.
You could, uh, the Patriots trade up to one. True, which would be interesting.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: I think a very likely scenario, just for the sake of all the quarterbacks that are in circulation, is Kirk Cousins in Atlanta, Russell Wilson in Pittsburgh.
Then obviously, and assuming if those two things happen to the Bears, probably trade down, then you go with probably Caleb Williams in Washington, Drake May in New England, and who's left on. Who's that?
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Jaden Daniels.
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Jaden Daniels. But I'm just thinking about the team that's in that three or four spot.
[00:07:04] Speaker B: Cardinals.
[00:07:04] Speaker A: Cardinals.
[00:07:05] Speaker C: Chargers.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: Giants.
[00:07:07] Speaker C: Yeah, Giants.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: Giants would totally. Dude, Brian Dable would be licking his chops to get Jaden Daniels on his football team.
[00:07:14] Speaker B: I think licking his chops they officially said his GM came out. I think they had the press conference yesterday that Daniel Jones is their quarterback for the future and they're standing by Daniel Jones. However, Jaden Daniels just finished up his pre draft meeting with the Giants. So kind of interesting that happened after they said that. So kind of interesting like how the GM said that and then they're still checking out. Like you said, jaden Daniels and some other prospects.
[00:07:39] Speaker C: I think it would be a mistake, 1000% a mistake, if the Giants stick with Daniel Jones. I mean, if there's a quarterback on the board and they have a chance to go get up for a quarterback like Jaden Daniels, Caleb Williams or Drake May, I think you should, or maybe even just get like a JJ McCarthy, Michael Pennix and Bo Nicks down later in the draft. I just think Daniel, you know what Daniel Jones is capable of. It's nothing special.
[00:08:04] Speaker B: See, my thing on Daniel Jones is not to cut you off.
[00:08:07] Speaker C: No, you're good.
[00:08:08] Speaker B: My thing on Daniel Jones is I think a lot of people in that organization think he just can't stay healthy. So they actually can't evaluate mean aside from the turnovers because he has a big turnover issue.
[00:08:19] Speaker A: But turnovers and that guy can't hang in the pocket.
[00:08:21] Speaker B: But sorry, keep going. But it's also to that credit to what we were mean. They have mean when it comes to drafting offensive line. I know Andrew Thomas was pretty good, but Evan Neal has struggled.
[00:08:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that one's kind of a bummer.
[00:08:34] Speaker C: I was hoping he was. Andrew Thomas was the same as Evan Neal his first year. Andrew Thomas was not good his first year.
[00:08:40] Speaker A: What about his second year, though?
[00:08:41] Speaker C: Okay, that is true.
[00:08:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:08:43] Speaker B: And that's a big.
[00:08:43] Speaker C: He did bounce back. Evan Neal has yet. I think Evan Neal will come along.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: I hope he does. It's looking grim though, man.
[00:08:50] Speaker C: It is. I will agree.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: It is a comment he made about which also I think it was taken a little bit out of hand. You know, how we talked about Philly media and New York media taking things and making it a little bit extra. But I mean, it was a quote that I don't think most New York fans are going to take lightly to like it doesn't embody the culture that they want for their mean. I guess it doesn't. It doesn't. Because he basically was calling the fans sheep.
[00:09:13] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, I remember he was like.
[00:09:16] Speaker B: The lines don't concern themselves sheep because talking about, pretty much talking about all the negative reviews he was getting. But that being said, to wrap up my point, if I'm the Giants. And if I'm up this high in the draft, next year's QB class is not that good. So that kind of worries me. But I mean, hey, if you still think there's any chance that this might be your guy, I think you have to take an offensive tackle here, and I think you have to come around in the second round because I think. Do they have multiple second rounds? I don't know if they do or not, but like we talked about, this draft class is so deep at wide receiver. I think they can still find some weapons later in the draft, but I think they got to get a lock. And I think they have two great options that are first round, like, mean just day one starters with Joe Alt, and I can't say that guy's name from Penn State, but Olufushanu. Yes. Thank you.
[00:10:07] Speaker C: Thank you, Tanner. Because I couldn't get that.
[00:10:09] Speaker A: It's right.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: But also, just real quick, I want to go back to that Justin Fields rule thing. I don't know if you guys saw Peter King, who just recently retired, so happy retirement to Peter King. Oh, wow.
[00:10:19] Speaker C: I did not see.
[00:10:20] Speaker B: Yeah, I know it's crazy, but obviously someone who's been around the NFL just spear a long time. I don't even know if it's the right word. NFL spear.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: NFL vibe.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[00:10:34] Speaker A: I'm just trying to make it worse for you, trying to throw you off the right track.
[00:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah, you did. Gosh, I'm so flustered now. But no, it's just pretty much he's been someone who's been around the NFL locker room and pretty much knows his way with general managers and people in front office. And he's the one that actually broke the news a little bit beforehand or hinted at that the Chicago Bears would be trading with the Panthers last year. So now this year and his last article that he wrote in his forget, I forget what it's called, but he pretty much hinted at he's not for sure, but from what he's been told that the Bears are going to trade this number one pick, they're going to trade down multiple times.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: Go for that man. Good for Justin Fields.
[00:11:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: Honestly, I'm glad he gets another to.
[00:11:20] Speaker B: I want to bring that up just because if you're the Bears and that's true, and they do think about moving down multiple times, which they kind of did last year.
[00:11:27] Speaker A: Right.
[00:11:28] Speaker B: And you saw how that worked out. It did kind of better their team, especially after that Montess sweat trade. I think they ended the last eight games, five and eight with their wins.
[00:11:36] Speaker C: After that trade, they did finish the season really good.
[00:11:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I think they had the top scoring defense, too. They had one of the top scoring defense after that Montess sweat trade. So with that defense, with those pieces, if you do trade back, where do you go from there?
[00:11:52] Speaker A: If you do trade back, where do you go from there?
[00:11:55] Speaker C: We know they need a wide receiver because Darnold Mooney, he's shown flashes as just, I guess, really a deep threat. He's a little speed guy.
[00:12:03] Speaker A: A little speed guy.
[00:12:05] Speaker C: I mean, he is petite.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Wow. You made it so much worse.
[00:12:10] Speaker B: Yeah, I thought you were right.
[00:12:13] Speaker C: But he's fast. He can definitely get downfield.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: It depends on their pick, man. But if I'm Chicago, I don't know if I'm taking would. If I'm trading down, like you're talking about the spot, they trade down from one, assuming that's in the top five area.
[00:12:28] Speaker B: I think if anything they do trade down, it'd be from, like one to high.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Yeah. Because there are some teams in that range.
[00:12:36] Speaker B: I think it would be one to two. I think that's the first trait they. And, like, obviously, because there's a lot of smoke around that. Caleb Williams and the commanders, I think something to pay attention.
[00:12:45] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:45] Speaker B: But also the, like, of course, if they get, like, Justin Fields, I think that's something you could probably not. Justin Fields. I'm sorry. If they don't, then that's something you could keep an eye on.
[00:12:55] Speaker A: Right. Who's the OC in Washington now?
[00:12:59] Speaker B: Cliff Kingsbury.
[00:13:00] Speaker A: Cliff Kingsbury.
[00:13:01] Speaker B: Interesting.
[00:13:01] Speaker C: And you know who is the assistant OC?
Brian Johnson.
[00:13:06] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:13:07] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I forgot about that.
[00:13:08] Speaker C: It's amazing.
[00:13:10] Speaker A: Go see moving down in the world.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: But, yeah, I still think he got a little bit of the raw stake.
[00:13:15] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree. But I mean, at the same time, his offense was pretty hard to watch day in and day out.
[00:13:21] Speaker A: Nick Sirianes is.
[00:13:23] Speaker C: No. Oh, I know.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: No debate there.
[00:13:28] Speaker A: At what point do y'all think that's. Do you think there's enough is enough in Philly and Nick Siriani's out of there?
[00:13:34] Speaker B: I really think it's the media, if I'm being completely honest.
[00:13:36] Speaker C: Yeah, I think the media is like, we saw it with AJ Brown. AJ Brown had to come on air and say, everything is fine. Like, I'm not going anywhere. So the media always creates this different kind of stories and stuff.
[00:13:48] Speaker A: Right. But, I mean, you end this past season with five straight losses, five out of six, something like that. Yeah, you have that, and I'm not going to lie to you based off of that happening, is the team going to improve in this?
[00:14:04] Speaker C: So I do think so because of the coaching.
[00:14:08] Speaker B: Howie Roseman has said he's being super aggressive this offseason, which usually every offseason.
Yeah, I won't lie, he's pretty relentless. But I will say I think the team will come back a little bit better. I think there's more clarity now, and I think a lot of these players really respect some of the coordinators coming in, especially Vic Fangio. And especially now that you can actually work with Vic Fangio to get players to build, to help your scheme instead of waiting so late in the season finding a coordinator and then not having.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: Right. That offensive scheme is going to have to get some serious change. Oh, no serious change.
[00:14:48] Speaker C: Kelly Moore is going to do wonders.
[00:14:49] Speaker B: For me, I think.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: I don't know my thing with Kelly Mormon.
He's worked with really good quarterbacks and really good offenses. You know what I mean?
[00:14:58] Speaker C: So is Jalen hurts. Just not a good quarterback, apparently.
[00:15:02] Speaker A: What? That's not at all.
[00:15:03] Speaker B: I think you're misreading what he said.
[00:15:04] Speaker C: No, but he said he's worked with great quarterbacks. So this season, I don't know how he's going to do.
[00:15:10] Speaker A: I'm saying he's worked with really good quarterbacks before and still been unsuccessful in the postseason especially.
[00:15:15] Speaker C: Well, postseason, yes. But I mean, okay, let's think about it with the Cowboys. The Cowboys haven't been successful before that OC and after.
[00:15:25] Speaker A: So he didn't help at all.
[00:15:26] Speaker C: He didn't help at all. But it's the Cowboys in general. Like the head coach, Mike McCarthy. You really think Mike McCarthy is a proven loser in the playoffs?
[00:15:34] Speaker B: Mike McCarthy is the answer.
[00:15:36] Speaker C: And then before that you had, what's the guy that always clapped? I forget his name? Jason Garrett. That's right. Thank you, Evan. Jason Garrett again, who's a proven loser. So once you hire a good head coach who can actually lead men, then I will be like, okay, I see.
[00:15:53] Speaker A: What you're saying, but I think the point should still stand. Like, don't get me wrong, you have the argument of know the head Coach is bad, but still, if that team, if that offense is playing bad, that still falls in the OC. I don't care who your head coach is. If your offense can't get it done late in the game, that still falls on the OC no matter what.
[00:16:09] Speaker C: Okay. And then let me tell you about the Chargers this year, right? No. Mike Williams, Austin Eckler is on a broken not a broken knee, but, like, he can run 13. He's washed. He's done. You had no Justin Herbert for like almost half the season. The team was riddled with injuries, and you had Brandon Staley as the head coach again, a proven loser who blew a 27 point lead before Kelly Moore got there. So, I mean, still. They still haven't proven anything.
I'm just saying, like, I think Kelly Moore is going to be much better than Brian Johnson.
[00:16:42] Speaker A: Fair enough. I mean, better than Brian Johnson you can have. But I guess all I'm saying is I wouldn't be surprised if that offense gets stagnant again next season like it did for this one.
[00:16:51] Speaker C: The only thing that I worry about is the offense. He's controlled. The run game hasn't been like the most important thing, but when you have Jeff Stoutland as the run game coordinator, I think they could come together, they can develop a plan. And plus, if you don't run the ball, there's going to be Philly fans just chanting run the ball every time.
[00:17:14] Speaker B: Waiting outside your office. Right?
[00:17:16] Speaker C: Yeah.
I think Hella Moore will do extremely well with the weapons he has with AJ Brown, Devontae Smith, Jalen Hurts. If you resign DeAndre Swift, or if you just get another running back like they have done Dallas Goddard, I think this offense will be good.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: I see what you're mean, even for me, dude, this may be a bad take just because of recency. I think that there's a pretty good chance that Dave Canales is a better offensive coach than Kellen Moore. I believe that. And honestly, I think that from a pretty objective point of view, from the past two years specifically. But even then, dude, I'm not that confident. And especially a one year turnaround and well for know in Dave Canalis'situation, he's becoming the head coach. Everything, it's changed from the top down. I would still be worried with Philly that there's not change from the top down. And obviously Kellen Moore is going to know overall, and he's a guy who's had the keys handed to him on offense, which is big for philly because I don't think Siriana should be involved in the offense whatsoever, and I think we'll all agree on that.
I think he's going to do exceptionally well.
I think it's a very bold take.
[00:18:27] Speaker C: I just know before Brian Johnson, we are one of the top offenses in the NFL. Jalen hurts was one of the top. He was in conversation for one of the top quarterbacks. He outplayed Patrick Mahomes in the Super.
[00:18:38] Speaker A: Bowl with Shane Steichen on your team.
[00:18:39] Speaker C: With Shane Steichen. Yes.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: A really good offensive.
[00:18:41] Speaker C: Exactly. I don't think we're going to be Shane Stiken good, but we're not going to be Brian Johnson bad.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[00:18:46] Speaker C: During the games, there was no targets throughout the middle of the field. There was no between the hashes. There was nothing going on right there.
[00:18:54] Speaker A: Right.
[00:18:55] Speaker C: Kelly Moore, if you look at the route tree from Keenan Allen, all that kind of stuff, it's almost all in the middle of the field. So with the motions, which we were bottom of the league in, now we're going to be top of the league. Our offense is not going to be just slants, curls or goes, which I'm happy for.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: It's going to test Hertz's ability to throw over the middle of the field.
[00:19:15] Speaker C: He could throw from the middle of the field.
[00:19:17] Speaker A: That hasn't been. I mean, two years ago he really wasn't throwing over the middle of the field that much because you were facing man a lot and he was throwing those goes and again, those slants. When I'm talking throwing over the field in my head, I'm talking about finding an empty spot in zone. Because you can throw over the middle of the field, man. You know what they're going to. If they beat their guy, they beat their guy zone is about finding the spot. And that's something that honestly has been a weakness in Joan hurt's game. But if he can do that efficiently next season, then the Eagles get really good fast.
[00:19:46] Speaker C: Yeah, I agree with you.
[00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Just to add on there, Brandon Staley, former Chargers head coach, now finds himself as the top leading candidate for defensive coordinators for the 49 ers, please.
[00:19:59] Speaker C: I need it. I need it. 49 ers, please hire Brandon Staley.
[00:20:02] Speaker A: I know he could be a pretty good DC man.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: I mean, we'll see after. Based on last season, it's kind of hard to tell.
[00:20:09] Speaker C: Please hire Brandon Staley.
[00:20:10] Speaker B: If there's any place that can make a redemption story, especially. Also, I just want to say it's very interesting that you decided to move on from Steve Wilkes and then hire Brandon Staley as.
[00:20:21] Speaker C: No, I agree. It's like, okay, you're going to fire the guy that held Patrick Mahomes to what, 19 points in the regulation, and you're not going to worry about, like, Kyle Shanahan, who can't score, or even worry about the players who can't get open. Devo Samuel, three catches, eleven targets.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: But here comes their saving grace. Brandon Staley, let's go. You are listening to the student section. NFL on WVUA 90.7, the capstone. Be sure to stream us on tune 365, Apple podcasts and Spotify while we're back. I just thought you guys were having an interesting conversation. Evan, please tell us, why do you play? You said you like Madden 23 over 24.
[00:21:23] Speaker A: For context, I want to explain this first, just because it's a crazy concept. He says he owns Madden 24. The newest one.
[00:21:30] Speaker B: Right?
[00:21:30] Speaker A: Yet, but he deleted it in order to play for the older game.
That's the context. And let's hear why.
[00:21:38] Speaker D: I just think the passing is better. I like how in 23, you can actually control where you put the ball.
[00:21:44] Speaker C: I feel like you can do that.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: You totally can.
[00:21:46] Speaker D: In 24, it's different because I feel like in 24, it's more based on the route than where you put the ball. In 23, I can put the ball almost anywhere I want.
[00:21:57] Speaker A: It probably should be based on the route a little bit.
[00:22:00] Speaker D: Well, right quarterback is not throwing the route. He's throwing to the person.
[00:22:04] Speaker A: Do what?
I don't know.
[00:22:09] Speaker C: Sounds like a two of them wide open.
[00:22:12] Speaker D: And I want to lead them off the route. I want to be able to put them on a comeback.
[00:22:17] Speaker A: But you can't just change a streak to a comeback without it being a comeback.
[00:22:22] Speaker D: Well, in Madden 23, I'm saying you can lead them back towards the sideline and back towards the ball.
[00:22:28] Speaker C: I can do that in 24.
[00:22:30] Speaker D: I couldn't do it in 24.
[00:22:32] Speaker C: I know there's different passing settings.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Go issue.
[00:22:35] Speaker A: If you use the passing. If you use the. What is. It's just power and placement. That's the one that I use. I don't mess with, like, the accuracy.
[00:22:41] Speaker B: I play classic.
[00:22:42] Speaker A: You play classic.
[00:22:43] Speaker D: I play classic, too. That's probably what my problem came from.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I do the power and accurate. I think it's power and accuracy. Something along those lines.
[00:22:51] Speaker B: Little circle that tells you where.
[00:22:53] Speaker C: Yeah, I do the accuracy. One where I can hold the left.
[00:22:57] Speaker A: Trigger and then the blue passes.
[00:22:58] Speaker C: Yeah, fair.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: That's how you get those clean like.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: I love the playmaker throws, man. Oh, my gosh. Those are guys I've got in a franchise.
[00:23:07] Speaker B: Let me ask you real quick. Have you guys, because it was highly advertised when this game came out, that diving x factor throw. Have you guys gotten.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: I never been able to trigger it. We probably spent an hour straight trying to do it when we first got the game, but we never got it.
[00:23:18] Speaker B: Yeah, I've never seen it once and I've had it for months now.
[00:23:21] Speaker A: It's probably for the best, actually.
[00:23:24] Speaker B: I'm very thankful that.
[00:23:25] Speaker C: Remember, I remember seeing it and Josh Allen did it when only Patrick Holmes did it. Like what? Once? And so I saw Josh Allen doing it in the trailer. I'm like, oh, this is going to be so broken. I haven't seen it yet. I don't even know it's in the game. They just had it for that one trailer.
[00:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm kind of happy for it.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: Yeah, they just told us it's possible and they just left it there. Speaking of, we're not going to tell you when.
[00:23:46] Speaker C: What are they going to do this year with Madden? I guess 25 since they did the 25 for the 25th anniversary.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Dude, I've been thinking about this for a decade.
[00:23:55] Speaker C: What are they going to do forever?
[00:23:57] Speaker A: I don't know, man.
You know what? I think they're honestly just going to go with Madden 25.
[00:24:02] Speaker C: Just do it again. Yeah, because be that lazy again because.
[00:24:04] Speaker A: Games are doing, I mean, Call of Duty made Call of Duty modern warfare. And they didn't say remastered. They just made another game and they left it up for us to put it together. Which one's old? Which one's.
[00:24:14] Speaker B: I think it's going to be Madden 25 because remember, it was Madden NFL 25.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Is that the difference maker?
[00:24:23] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:24:23] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure it's still Madden NFL 24 right now.
[00:24:27] Speaker A: But no one says NFL.
[00:24:28] Speaker C: Yeah, no one says NFL.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: This is like Bearstein bears Mandela effect moment for me.
[00:24:32] Speaker A: Yeah, fair enough.
[00:24:34] Speaker B: You know who that is? Like the Mandela effect.
[00:24:36] Speaker A: Who I know, but I also know the Mandela effect. Okay.
[00:24:43] Speaker B: I figured you guys know who Mandela was, but yes, the effect is my question. Okay, you're right. It does say NFL. That's interesting.
[00:24:50] Speaker A: It'd be funny if the NFL decided to take their brand out of the Madden game after 25. Like, you know what, let's not have a Madden NFL 25. Let's make less money and let's go Madden 17. This time the head director is like.
[00:25:03] Speaker B: Guys, hear me out. I got an idea.
[00:25:05] Speaker A: I got an idea.
[00:25:07] Speaker B: Let's lose the NFL.
[00:25:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:25:10] Speaker B: Getting back to some more NFL news. Well, I guess it is NFL news. Just real quick, your thoughts on the NCAA video game. I know Connor. Me and Connor talked about it on our new show, the Crimson case, which airs on Fridays from 1215 to two.
[00:25:21] Speaker C: Definitely check that out.
[00:25:22] Speaker A: Nice.
[00:25:22] Speaker B: If you get a chance, Tanner, you'll.
[00:25:24] Speaker C: Be our this week.
[00:25:25] Speaker A: I sure will.
[00:25:25] Speaker C: No matter if you get a chance or not, you better just do it. Tune in.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Just tune in. Drop everything. Doesn't matter what you're doing. Just take some time to listen to it. But, yeah. Your thoughts on this NCAA game?
[00:25:34] Speaker A: Oh, dude, I can't wait. I think it's going to be fantastic. It's coming out this summer, in June. Ideally, I will be sleeping on my brother's couch in Dallas, hopefully with an internship that I'm trying to get. But if that's the case, every night during the week, I will be going to work, coming back, playing college football, going to sleep, going to work, coming back, playing college football. You get the point. Sleep. Yeah. I'm going to rebuild Georgia Tech into its previous dominance. I grew up a tech fan, man, which also makes sense.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: Calvin Johnson, right?
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Not actually, no. I just thought the jerseys were cool. When I was like six, the triple option when we moved to Georgia. I thought the jerseys were sick. And also. Yeah. Where do you shout out? Paul Johnson.
[00:26:15] Speaker B: Georgia.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: From North Carolina.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:26:17] Speaker A: Yeah, that's right. Yeah.
But, yeah. Where were you born to that game? I was born in Atlanta.
[00:26:23] Speaker B: Your Social Security?
[00:26:24] Speaker A: What?
No, I was born in Atlanta. Moved to North Carolina for. Until I was like eight, and then I moved back.
[00:26:31] Speaker B: Okay, I got you.
[00:26:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:32] Speaker B: Okay. That's kind of a similar story. I grew up. Well, I was born in Rhode island and then Rhode island.
[00:26:36] Speaker A: Really?
[00:26:37] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:26:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. Never seen it.
[00:26:39] Speaker A: Never seen it.
[00:26:41] Speaker B: Don't know what's going on.
[00:26:42] Speaker A: Never seen a homeland, man.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Don't know what's going on up there. But I hear nice things about it.
[00:26:46] Speaker A: Hear nice things about Rhode island.
[00:26:47] Speaker B: Maybe I'll go back one day, I'll check it out.
[00:26:49] Speaker A: What about you, Evan?
[00:26:50] Speaker D: I was born in England.
[00:26:52] Speaker B: Wait, really?
[00:26:53] Speaker D: What lake in Heath, England.
[00:26:54] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:26:54] Speaker D: I had a british accent until I was about ten.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Are you.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: Dude. And now he's got an Alabama accent. Dude, that's insane. How have you never told him?
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Please explain.
[00:27:04] Speaker D: Military family, obviously.
[00:27:06] Speaker A: I need you to slip back to that accent a little bit, too, while you're telling the story.
[00:27:09] Speaker D: I completely lost it.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: I don't believe you.
[00:27:12] Speaker D: But all my family's from Miami, hence the dolphins and everything. But born in England. My brother was born in Illinois.
And then when I was five, we moved to Hawaii and then moved back to Miami for a little bit. And then from Miami to Vegas, Vegas to Germany. Germany to Alabama. Alabama, Tennessee. And now back.
[00:27:38] Speaker B: Been.
[00:27:38] Speaker A: He's been around a time so real, you. In my mind, Hawaii is Hawaii. But you called it Hawai, right? Because I believe it's how it's actually said.
[00:27:48] Speaker B: Hawaii?
[00:27:49] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:27:49] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: Because I was just going to say, that's how you tell that you actually live there, by calling it Hawaii. Hawaii.
[00:27:55] Speaker D: Because I'm not sure, because I've seen Hawaiian, like, TikTokers and stuff. There's this one I remember, and she would always say hawaii, which I don't know if she was playing it up.
[00:28:07] Speaker A: But that one got Jalen, dude.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: It does bother me a little bit.
[00:28:11] Speaker D: When people try too hard about it.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Hawai.
[00:28:14] Speaker D: But, yeah, I always grew up saying hawaii, dude, that is so.
[00:28:17] Speaker A: And you had an english accent until you were ten.
[00:28:20] Speaker B: Let me ask you, do you occasionally slip out that accent?
[00:28:23] Speaker A: Is there a word?
[00:28:24] Speaker D: No, I feel like my accent kind of develops where I'm at, so I've had a southern accent.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Well, maybe you.
[00:28:30] Speaker D: I mean, the way I talk right now for probably the last five years, but whenever I go back to Miami, I'll pick up that little cuban flair.
[00:28:37] Speaker B: I got a little bit of cuban.
[00:28:38] Speaker D: In me, too, by the way. And there you go.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: Dude, we are learning so much about Evans tonight. This is awesome.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: This is groundbreaking.
[00:28:45] Speaker D: So I have a variety of accents. I'm like a melting pot.
[00:28:50] Speaker A: You may be the most well traveled person I've ever met in my life. Oh, yeah, there's a pretty good ods.
[00:28:54] Speaker B: So what's, like, out of all the places you've been to and visited culturally, what's been, like, the most eye opening for you?
[00:29:01] Speaker D: The most eye opening?
[00:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:05] Speaker A: England.
[00:29:06] Speaker D: Honestly, probably some places in America, just.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Like.
[00:29:12] Speaker D: It'S crazy seeing how different each state.
[00:29:17] Speaker A: Oh, that makes sense.
[00:29:18] Speaker D: Like, going from Alabama to Tennessee, I can pass through so many towns. And my friend, who's not been in the south at all, he grew up mainly in Germany and living in Tennessee recently. Even him coming to Alabama and looking at it from an outsider's perspective, I was like, wow, this is really how people live. And it's.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: No, no, not in a bad way.
We are on Alabama radio live.
[00:29:43] Speaker C: It's really how people live.
[00:29:44] Speaker D: It's just completely different from where we lived, where it's more industrial and everything's kind of polished to where here it's like very rural and just. I like it. I like it a lot, but it's.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: Definitely less, I don't know, coming from Richmond, Virginia. I know what you're saying. Like, the nightlife, the city life, everything's going on pretty much. Whereas when I travel back down here. Oh, I know I'm in Alabama for sure.
[00:30:14] Speaker D: All the lights go out and you can't really see 100 yards down the freeway or anything. I like it, but it's different from other places.
[00:30:23] Speaker B: There's a train that literally decides what you're going to do for your day.
[00:30:27] Speaker D: I was coming back Montgomery, Alabama, to here a couple of weeks ago, and I thought I was tripping.
I was going down a state road, and all I saw were hundreds of lights, and I thought I was, like, looking over a lake at a humongous city, and it was just a train, and it threw me off so bad.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: Lake was a train?
[00:30:49] Speaker A: I guess so.
[00:30:49] Speaker D: They had a whole bunch of coming off.
[00:30:52] Speaker B: I see what you're saying. Okay, that's interesting.
I want to say something british, but I'm not going to.
[00:31:01] Speaker A: That's probably not a good call.
[00:31:02] Speaker B: I'm not going to do that.
[00:31:04] Speaker A: I feel like Evan's got dang near more of a southern accent than I've been in. I was born in Georgia again, North Carolina for a little bit, also the south, and then pretty much north Georgia the rest of the.
[00:31:16] Speaker B: But, yeah, you definitely have a little bit of an accent, but I don't.
[00:31:19] Speaker A: Think it's like, I've been told I have a little bit, but I never think that I have one.
[00:31:23] Speaker B: I don't think you have.
[00:31:24] Speaker A: Okay, yeah, fair enough. Fair enough.
[00:31:25] Speaker B: Do you think I have one? Some people tell me I have a northern accent, and I'm just like.
[00:31:28] Speaker A: I don't know how to distinguish a northern accent from, like, especially, like, Virginia.
[00:31:31] Speaker B: If I say, like, water, does that sound different to you?
[00:31:35] Speaker C: Water?
[00:31:36] Speaker A: I don't know. Maybe your a's a little bit like. Mine's like, wah. You know what I mean? But yours like, water.
Maybe that's the difference.
[00:31:44] Speaker B: The more you know, the more you know, the more you learn. Go back to some NFL news.
[00:31:51] Speaker A: It became an american dialect show there.
[00:31:53] Speaker B: For a second, but we really dove in there. But, I mean, like, hey, credit a. It was too interesting not to put any attention on it.
[00:32:02] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, he lightly mentioned, oh, I was born in England. It's like, oh, my gosh.
[00:32:05] Speaker B: We've been doing this show for, like, almost eight months now. We had no idea that it was born in England.
[00:32:11] Speaker A: England. Evan, bro.
[00:32:12] Speaker B: What I know for the audience joining, listening, kind of just came back just now finding out that Evan's from England.
[00:32:19] Speaker C: Yeah, shocker.
[00:32:19] Speaker A: Isn't that crazy, dude?
[00:32:21] Speaker C: Really? Wow.
[00:32:26] Speaker A: Honestly, anyone who has a southern accent, for me, it's like, that's the main thing, because I think he has legit southern accent, so to hear he was born in England is pretty crazy, but.
[00:32:35] Speaker D: That'S actually where the southern accent came.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: From was because there's a root vowels. Honestly, in the same way that makes sense.
[00:32:41] Speaker C: You kind of do look like you're from my.
[00:32:45] Speaker A: All my heritage is from.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Go.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: He did not let that fly.
[00:32:51] Speaker B: He was like, let's not go that far.
[00:32:52] Speaker A: That's awesome.
[00:32:54] Speaker C: How's your beans? And no, no.
[00:32:57] Speaker D: I lived on an american base the entire time, thankfully.
Sorry to any of the british people out there.
[00:33:06] Speaker B: So getting back to some more NFL news, just to talk about it, let's go ahead and just talk about one of the bigger things. There's a lot of rumors of Justin Jefferson being available for trade. As officially need. Officially as of an hour ago.
[00:33:20] Speaker C: Oh, really?
[00:33:21] Speaker B: Their GM came out and said, he's not going anywhere, but, you know, make him a panther. But like we talked about, I would.
[00:33:28] Speaker A: Love for him to make him a panther.
[00:33:29] Speaker C: So everybody's just going to be a panther now?
[00:33:31] Speaker B: I mean, hey, there's a great meme.
[00:33:33] Speaker C: First of all, what are y'all gonna trade for?
[00:33:35] Speaker A: You know, often this show comes back to philly, I say make him a panther one.
[00:33:40] Speaker C: Give us Legerius need.
[00:33:41] Speaker A: Yeah, come on, dude.
[00:33:42] Speaker C: Legerius need was just franchise tag. But they did say if they can't get a long term contract done, he is available for trade.
I'm talking about the Eagles and Legerius. Neat. But go on with, it's not okay.
[00:33:56] Speaker A: Just about the Panthers, though.
[00:33:57] Speaker C: Justin Jefferson, though, to the Panthers, what are you going to trade? Seven first round picks.
[00:34:01] Speaker A: Brian Burns are.
[00:34:03] Speaker C: Brian Burns.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: That could totally be a player for player.
[00:34:08] Speaker C: He could be a player in the trade.
[00:34:11] Speaker A: Dude, I'm thinking about positional value. I understand Justin Jefferson is prolific and probably the best wide receiver in the league, which that's an argument that we've had before, which I kind of forgot about.
But I mean, dude, let's be real. The Panthers have, in terms of future capital, the Panthers have, they didn't for this draft, obviously, just for the first round, but in terms of second, especially second and thirds for this year and also the next few years, Panthers have that 100%, and they're definitely going to.
[00:34:37] Speaker C: Be good draft picks. So I guess Justin Jefferson, oh, I.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Can'T wait till Keller Moore goes down in flames as the Philly OC and we get to talk about it.
[00:34:47] Speaker C: I can't wait till Canalis gets fired halfway through the year like Frank Reich.
[00:34:51] Speaker A: That one's a little bit more likely.
[00:34:54] Speaker B: Unfortunately, for your sake. Yeah, but with that being said, let's go ahead and move on to his quarterback, or former quarterback, should I say Kirk Cousins looks like he's making some getting there. I don't know if you guys saw that. He looks healthier and also he just got gold girls.
[00:35:07] Speaker A: I did see that.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: So he's feeling pretty good. He's looking pretty good. Let me ask you, do you think were the Vikings, do you think he's coming back? There's rumors of Sam Darnold that the Vikings really like Sam Darnold as a rich quarterback next year.
[00:35:19] Speaker C: Are you serious? Yeah, I think Kirk is.
[00:35:21] Speaker B: Think I do, too.
[00:35:22] Speaker A: Yeah, I do think.
[00:35:24] Speaker B: I think for me personally, I think what the difference is, the Vikings aren't going to give Kirk guaranteed money. And obviously someone coming off an ACL injury, you're not going to want to give guaranteed money. So I feel like that might be the issue there. Whereas we know how financially stable Kirk is and of course he cares about his money situation. So if he gets a fully guaranteed contract from a team like Atlanta or the Raiders or. Honestly, I'm probably thinking the Patriots, if I'm being completely honest.
[00:35:52] Speaker A: Wow. Even with them having the second pick.
[00:35:54] Speaker B: This year, I think they might trade. I think really on the Patriots trading down.
[00:35:57] Speaker C: I don't think the Patriots are going to go for a guy like her cousins. I'm pretty sure they want a mobile.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Quarterback, especially with a new head coach, too.
[00:36:03] Speaker B: Maybe, possibly. But I'm just thinking, I just think this is to get pieces around. But you're right. The quarterback, like he said in this press conference, his first introductory press conference, he said, we're going to start with the most important position, obviously hinting at the quarterback position. But if I'm the Patriots, I would honestly trade back, get more assets, and I'm taking a guy like Spencer Rattler or Bo Nixon in the second or third round.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: I was going to say that I.
[00:36:27] Speaker C: Think that you think Spencer Ratler's going in the second round.
[00:36:29] Speaker B: I think he's going to go be the second or late second.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: I'm just asking. I don't really have opinions.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: I think he's a third, but marginal.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: But this is also a guy who was like number one coming out of high school in his class.
[00:36:40] Speaker C: Yeah, number one. And then after school, after his first two years in college, he was projected to either be a 7th round pick or undrafted.
[00:36:47] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, like, hey, there's.
[00:36:48] Speaker C: But then he has balled out.
[00:36:50] Speaker B: Everyone's journey is different. Look at Joe Burrow, for example. Arguably, I mean, you can say people want to. That's a great debate.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: Joe Burrow also went first overall.
[00:36:58] Speaker B: Exactly. But that's what I'm saying. But wasn't he like highly ranked and then he got benched for?
[00:37:04] Speaker A: But I think the thing with Joe Burrow was that he didn't get the time.
[00:37:08] Speaker C: Did he play at Ohio State? I don't think he played.
[00:37:10] Speaker B: No, he didn't?
[00:37:10] Speaker A: No, he never.
[00:37:15] Speaker B: Spencer Riley got the time, but how much time did he have when Caleb Williams is your backup? Like, hey, that guy, he had a lot of time.
[00:37:20] Speaker C: Actually. He had a lot of time.
[00:37:22] Speaker B: I know, but I'm saying like that Caleb Williams is over. Breathing over your neck is not probably the most comforting thing.
[00:37:28] Speaker A: That's probably true.
[00:37:29] Speaker C: Didn't Spencer Ratler start the next game after Caleb Williams came in?
[00:37:32] Speaker A: I don't think so.
[00:37:33] Speaker B: Actually.
[00:37:33] Speaker A: I think Caleb Williams stayed in. I think Caleb Williams stayed thought, no.
[00:37:36] Speaker C: So I thought what's it called? I thought Spencer Rattler started against Texas, then Caleb Williams came in, brought him back in one. And then I thought Spencer Ratler played again, started again and then Caleb Williams had to come back again.
And then Caleb Williams started the third game.
[00:37:49] Speaker A: I could be wrong, but I'm pretty sure that Caleb Williams, I think they never looked back with Caleb Williams.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: I thought that's how it went, too. But we can find that out just real quick. But also, there is one more thing I wanted to make wait.
[00:37:59] Speaker C: I do want to go ahead. You talked about press conference with the Patriots, but how about Raheem Morris coming out and saying if we had better quarterback play, I wouldn't be sitting at the podium right now.
[00:38:11] Speaker A: They're finding the quarterback.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: He's not wrong.
[00:38:13] Speaker C: I know he's not wrong, but imagine Desmond Ritter just hearing that.
[00:38:17] Speaker B: I'm going to make two hot takes with you. Just real quick, I want to hear my, these are my hot take. Early hot takes for the NFL draft. I think Chicago Bears do trade down to two. I think Caleb Williams is going to be a commander. I think the Falcons, if Justin Fields ends up with how things are looking like Justin Fields preferred team is the Steelers and it's already been in negotiations where the Steelers want to send a second round pick.
[00:38:41] Speaker A: His preferred team is the Steelers.
[00:38:42] Speaker B: Yeah, apparently.
[00:38:43] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:38:44] Speaker B: So apparently they want to send the second round pick, but Chicago doesn't want that. They want their first round pick, which is I think like the 17th or.
[00:38:50] Speaker A: 20Th, something like that.
[00:38:51] Speaker B: Yeah, but that's what they're negotiating around. Apparently. That's what's taking it like contract wise. That's what's holding up the deal.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:38:58] Speaker B: I think as soon as we get closer to the draft. Of course it's going to be a done deal. But if Fields goes to Pittsburgh. Long story short, I think the Lanta Falcons are drafting JJ McCarthy.
[00:39:12] Speaker C: Really?
[00:39:12] Speaker A: Interesting.
[00:39:13] Speaker B: You know what we were talking about Brock Purdy and like Kirk, JJ Raheem Morris. I could see it.
[00:39:21] Speaker C: You said this is like win in.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: The draft with the seven or whatever their pick is.
[00:39:27] Speaker C: So you see, you think JJ is going in the top ten?
[00:39:30] Speaker B: I just think there's too many. It's all about. I'm not saying that we know we had this argument.
[00:39:35] Speaker C: He's not top ten like talent, but like since the need.
[00:39:38] Speaker B: Yeah, the demand is too high.
[00:39:41] Speaker C: I would rather Bo Nicks or Michael Pennix even though they're much older than JJ McCarthy. But JJ McCarthy didn't throw in college. Really?
[00:39:48] Speaker A: I think I'd take Knicks over McCarthy.
[00:39:51] Speaker C: We got to wait till the combine because he is going to throw in the combine.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: I think he's the only one throwing in the combine.
[00:39:57] Speaker A: Yeah, it seems like it too.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: I know Caleb and Drake both said they're not.
[00:40:00] Speaker B: They're throwing at the pro days.
[00:40:02] Speaker A: I think everyone will throw at their pro.
[00:40:03] Speaker C: Yeah, everyone will throw.
[00:40:04] Speaker A: Which honestly I kind of get. Yeah, I get not wanting to throw at the combine. Not bad.
[00:40:09] Speaker C: Is Bo throwing?
[00:40:10] Speaker B: I don't know if Bo is throwing. I don't believe so.
[00:40:12] Speaker C: I haven't heard anything.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: The only thing I know is drake May is not throwing. He's not throwing.
[00:40:16] Speaker C: I know Drake and Caleb are not right.
[00:40:18] Speaker B: I know Malik neighbors is doing the combine. He's running.
[00:40:22] Speaker A: He is. I thought he wasn't.
[00:40:23] Speaker B: I think he's running.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: I think he is running.
[00:40:25] Speaker B: Participate because I mean like Marvin Harrison isn't. If you want to make the case to try to beat Marvin Harrison who's not participating in the 40, yeah, go run. A 4.2 probably will help a lot. But other than that, I'm just saying I get your whole point of I don't like I'm not confident Bo Nicks.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: I get mean. He's improved since his auburn days for one. And again, I also think I would totally consider Pennix over, especially, man, if you're at seven, you're picking somebody you want to plug in and you think can push the ball down the field and be a leader for the team. For me, that's Pennix over McCarthy and this is mainly picking at seven. I think the only reason you take McCarthy is because he is young and he has significant tools. He seems very coachable. I'm sure he will interview really well but McCarthy is a super upside pick. I mean upside and even he's not even like a super high end athlete. You know what I mean?
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I get what you're saying. And especially because they do have a lot of defensive needs that you do have to make up.
[00:41:30] Speaker A: Think. Sorry, real quick, last hot take for the draft. But I do think that Michael Pennix could be a Viking, especially if they're not bad. Actually, they know that offense is familiar with a quarterback who prefers the pocket over everything.
Think. And also we've seen what he can do with two good receivers.
[00:41:52] Speaker C: I did hear going back to your point with Justin Jefferson, I'm pretty sure I thought I heard Justin Jefferson. If Kirk is not back, then he.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: Wants out, which would also make makes.
[00:42:03] Speaker C: There's a whole lot of the vikings are in purgatory right now.
[00:42:07] Speaker B: Yeah. They have a lot of needs, a lot of directions they could go into. A lot of players leaving older players. Harrison Smith, I think he just retired if I'm not mistaken.
[00:42:14] Speaker A: Right.
[00:42:17] Speaker B: Regardless, it'll be like, yeah, it's winding on the horizon. He sees it coming. I think the front office sees it coming. But that's all I meant. Just last thing.
[00:42:25] Speaker C: I think McCarthy has yet to retire also.
[00:42:27] Speaker B: Okay. So not officially, but yeah, as expected. But yeah, I think, man, if you're thinking about going the way of Sam Darnold as your next quarterback with Justin Jefferson as your wide receiver, one, I think you are in a lot of trouble.
[00:42:41] Speaker C: You said Sam Darnold.
[00:42:42] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that's their interest right now.
[00:42:44] Speaker C: That's insane.
[00:42:45] Speaker B: Yeah.
Let's see what happens if they take a quarterback. But with that being said, we're going to go to a break real quick and when we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more about some NFL rumors.
You're listening to the student section, NFL on WVUA 90.7, the capstone. Be sure to check us out on tune 365 apps, Apple podcasts, Spotify and more. So now that we're back, let's go ahead and get into our last part of NFL rumors.
Connor, you just had some breaking news.
[00:43:38] Speaker C: Actually, I want to say breaking news.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: But what we expected.
[00:43:42] Speaker C: Yeah, news just came out saying the Falcons are emerging as the number one trade option for Justin Fields. So I know we were just discussing that, but if he ends up getting traded, I would love to see the offense with Justin Fields, Bijon Robinson, Kyle Pitts, Drake London and I guess Mac Hollins. They need a second. They. That's what they, you know, if they want to target their top playmakers. That would be nice. I did see they just released Johnny Smith.
[00:44:10] Speaker B: Yeah, Johnny Smith. I was actually about to bring that up. They just cut him. So that's an interesting.
[00:44:17] Speaker C: Maybe Kyle Pitts will get the ball.
[00:44:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:44:18] Speaker A: Say they can't throw it to him instead of Pitts anymore, but they're probably.
[00:44:22] Speaker C: Bringing another guy or draft somebody. Yeah.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: You think?
[00:44:25] Speaker C: Actually no. If you think about it, they draft somebody, they're not going to throw him.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: The mean, you never know. The Falcons have shocked us time and time again with their choices on offense, but wouldn't be too surprise. Another thing I wanted to bring up is just some of these trade targets, the trade rumors that have been floating out there. Danielle Hunter. Danielle Daniel Hunter, Khalil Mack, Joey Bosa. These are some names.
[00:44:49] Speaker C: Joey Bosa.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Really? Because chargers have so much cap are so much like the Saints. They're just such a cap situation that they have to start cutting and trading pieces. So those are just some few interesting names to watch. Are there any out of any of those names, is there someone that you think could make a real difference to a team?
[00:45:08] Speaker C: I think all of them really. Joey Bosa, Cleo Mack.
[00:45:11] Speaker B: But what team? I'm sorry, let me rephrase. What team would you like to see?
[00:45:14] Speaker C: Ooh, there's a couple I would really like to see.
Cleo Mack. Honestly, back on the Raiders with Max Crosby.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: That would be a fine matchup.
[00:45:25] Speaker C: I know Chandler Jones signed with the Raiders before he went AWOL.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: Yeah, we don't have to. I feel like he should not, we should even mention, probably shouldn't speculate on.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: AWOL is just an awesome word to use right there.
[00:45:39] Speaker B: That's all.
[00:45:40] Speaker C: We just know his social media presence.
[00:45:41] Speaker B: Has been a little hectic.
[00:45:43] Speaker C: It's been crazy.
Yeah, I would like to see another.
[00:45:49] Speaker B: He's doing podcasts with Antonio Brown and that's like we can just say that.
[00:45:52] Speaker C: We're not going to say what it is. C-T-E-S-P-E-S. We are going to say what it is.
[00:45:56] Speaker A: Never mind. That's nothing wrong with that.
[00:45:58] Speaker C: Yeah, but I would like to see another pass rusher next to Max Crosby like we were supposed to see with Chandler Jones. So I would like to see that there's a bunch of teams that I feel like that need edge rushers. I would like to see an edge rusher on the Panthers. That'd be nice next to Brian Burns. If you keep Brian Burns true. That'll be know you had Brian Burns and Hassan Reddick at one point, but let him walk.
[00:46:26] Speaker B: I think the commander, you're about to.
[00:46:27] Speaker A: Let him walk again, aren't.
[00:46:29] Speaker C: That was. They came out and said that he wants to be in Philly.
[00:46:33] Speaker A: Really?
[00:46:33] Speaker C: It was another rumor that objectively true, though.
[00:46:36] Speaker A: I really wish we kept Hasan Reddick, but what are you going to do?
[00:46:40] Speaker C: I think they're going to get an extension done. That's what they're saying.
[00:46:42] Speaker B: It's pretty much the way they're doing with Dairy Slay. Like, hey, I want to be paid this much. They're like, okay, yeah, you go test the market guy. And so he goes to the Ravens and he tests the market. He's like, I guess I'm going over then.
You know, Gartner leaves.
[00:46:57] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:46:57] Speaker B: And then they're like, okay, we'll give you a little bit more money, but not with the money you're asking.
[00:47:01] Speaker C: That's not what happened.
That was with James Bradbury.
[00:47:04] Speaker B: I'm talking about Darius Slay got the offer from the Ravens.
[00:47:07] Speaker C: He got the offer from the Ravens, but it wasn't because of CJ Gardner Johnson.
[00:47:10] Speaker B: James Reddick.
[00:47:10] Speaker C: Yeah. So they had Darius Slay and they were trying to lock up Darius Slay and CJ Gardner Johnson. CJ was like, no, I don't like this deal. So, like, all right, bet.
[00:47:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:47:19] Speaker C: Goodbye. We're going to pay bald.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: That's basically what I'm saying. But that's when they told Darius to go test the market.
[00:47:25] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:47:25] Speaker B: And that's essentially what Hassan Reddick. They're doing with Hassan Reddick now. Like, go test the market and then he's going to be back.
[00:47:33] Speaker C: Yeah, I think there's going to be an extension done.
[00:47:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Which would actually help the Eagles cap room, if anything. Right. Doesn't it free up? I think it frees up like, I want to say ten.
[00:47:41] Speaker C: Well, I know they do an extension. They can backload it or something like they usually do and create a lot more cap space. Right?
[00:47:47] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:47:47] Speaker B: But with that being said, who knows what they're going to do? I'm so excited to see what the Eagles. I love draft time is.
[00:47:52] Speaker C: My favorite time of the offseason is so much fun.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: I love the draft. So, that being said, I'm trying to think if there's any more, like, Derek Henry. He's still out there. Notable free agents, not too much.
[00:48:02] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:48:03] Speaker D: Recently, Xavier Howard sadly left the Dolphins. So.
[00:48:09] Speaker A: A team that I would like to see get a good vet. Edge rusher like you were talking about is the Falcons. Those guys need an edge rusher like they need to breathe.
[00:48:16] Speaker B: Oh, they could get Joey Bosa instead of drafting like Dallas Turner. That's what I'm saying.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: If you can get somebody, get a vet and free agency and take know high end physical guy down the line, I think that would be a pretty good move for them. But they need to impact.
[00:48:32] Speaker C: But we haven't mentioned all the running backs that haven't gotten franchise tagged. So Saquon Barkley will be a free agent. Derek Henry will be a free agent. Tony Pollard will be a free agent. Austin Eckler, well, Austin Eckler might be out the league if he can't run a 40 faster than five and a half.
[00:48:52] Speaker B: Five.
[00:48:52] Speaker A: I would love to see an Austin Eckler 40 yard dash. I would be so curious.
[00:48:56] Speaker C: One thing that just goes to your mind, I know I was showing Tanner this earlier, but Austin Eckler getting to the outside against the packers and he couldn't outrun like d lineman guy was, was. It's sad to watch because he was up at the probably. I know a few years ago he was the best fantasy football running back.
[00:49:15] Speaker A: Just probably two years in a row.
[00:49:17] Speaker C: Just the way he could catch the ball and the touchdowns.
[00:49:20] Speaker A: But role in the offense was significant. There was just nobody else there in the running back room. I mean, who's the.
My gosh, the back likely something.
[00:49:30] Speaker B: Isaiah.
[00:49:31] Speaker A: Likely. Isaiah. Likely. See, Isaiah likely was the first thought that came to my head, but I've made that mistake before, but I can't remember off top of my head. And again, that guy wasn't even that great. And people were kind of thought it.
[00:49:44] Speaker C: Was like Chad Kelly. Not Chad Kelly, but it was like something Kelly.
[00:49:46] Speaker A: Yeah, it's something Kelly.
[00:49:47] Speaker C: Ryan Kelly, maybe.
[00:49:49] Speaker A: I don't think it's Ryan Kelly.
[00:49:49] Speaker C: Joshua Kelly.
[00:49:50] Speaker A: Joshua Kelly.
[00:49:51] Speaker B: Ryan Kelly's like a center.
[00:49:52] Speaker C: They have Isaiah Spiller.
[00:49:54] Speaker A: I guess so.
[00:49:55] Speaker C: I'm looking at the depth chart. It's Austin Eckler, Joshua Kelly, Isaiah Spiller.
[00:50:00] Speaker A: Spiller is, I think, what was in my head because Isaiah, I think is where I was coming from.
[00:50:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I think so.
[00:50:06] Speaker B: Oh, Joshua Kelly was her backup, but then Isaiah started coming on.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: Yeah. And then they started. I think that's what it was.
[00:50:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, in terms of other news around the league, just to wrap up the show, pretty much, defensive tackle justin Marubuque is likely to receive the franchise tag for the Ravens.
I guess they're keeping them. The tag is going to be estimated about 22.1 million. So that kind of helps keep their defensive line intact.
[00:50:32] Speaker A: Right.
[00:50:32] Speaker B: The Panthers, like we had mentioned earlier, linebacker Brian Burns, they hope to agree on a deal closer to draft time for the Browns. Quarterback Deshaun Watson, who is recovering from surgery to repair a broken bone, is throwing shorter, will begin throwing next month.
Broncos pretty much working on Pat Sartan extension.
Let's see any other big news. Shaq Baird's being released by the Tampa Bay Bucks.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: Right?
[00:50:59] Speaker C: Really? I did not see that.
[00:51:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:51:01] Speaker C: So another great edge rusher.
[00:51:03] Speaker B: Yeah. So if you're a team that doesn't want to draft or wants to go the offensive route, I think you still have a good chance.
[00:51:10] Speaker C: The free agency class this year is very strong and the draft is so deep. So I feel like a lot rare. Yeah, it's very rare. And I think a lot of teams can get a lot better and a lot of teams can get a lot worse.
[00:51:23] Speaker A: I agree.
[00:51:24] Speaker C: It's going to be a fun offseason.
[00:51:26] Speaker B: No, I agree.
[00:51:27] Speaker C: I can't wait for March 13.
[00:51:28] Speaker A: That was like a trailer for it.
[00:51:29] Speaker B: Yeah, I know.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: A lot of teams can get better. A lot of teams can get worse.
[00:51:32] Speaker B: I was going to just end it and go to show on that. That was not really cool, but yeah. Well, missed opportunity. Sorry, Connor.
It's whatever you want to give it another shot to close out the show.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: This is it. This is the outro.
[00:51:46] Speaker B: Now.
[00:51:46] Speaker C: Don't mess it up. Last time I did an outro, you just ended it off dead air. I said get your groove on. You just cut it done. So let's not do that.
So a lot of teams can get a lot better. It was probably a lot of teams can get a lot. You know what? Golly, Aylin, what are we doing?
[00:52:03] Speaker A: Outro the show?
[00:52:04] Speaker C: Thank you for joining us.
[00:52:05] Speaker B: You're listening to the student section, NFL.
