Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:09] Speaker B: Welcome, everyone, to WVUA 90.7, the Capstone NBA students section. I'm your host, Zachary O'Rod, and here with me is Trey Simpson. And we got a great show for y'all. We got a bunch of NBA topics, and let's dive straight into it. The all star game just happened. We had some records being breaking or broken, I should say, with the east having 211 points, I believe.
[00:00:34] Speaker A: Yeah. So we can clearly see the no defense areas on full display.
First of all, for the east to come out and just dog the west like they did, nobody expected that. If you looked at the lineup of the west, they basically had the Avengers. That's what they're calling them on social.
Everybody, you know, expected the west to come out and know, do what the east did, and the know rose to the know. Dane came out hot. Tyrese Halliburton came out. Yeah, five threes back to back without missing.
[00:01:10] Speaker B: But nobody's playing defense. Nobody's putting a mean, you know, this classic all star game now.
[00:01:16] Speaker A: But, I mean, shoot, his third three against shave. Remember he did the Larry bird ball fake over. Yeah, almost from the logo. But, yeah, you're right. No defense is being played for real.
Honestly, what do you think about that all star weekend as it, like, the whole thing?
[00:01:36] Speaker B: I think it adds some good part to the three point contest. I thought that was really entertaining. And then the hope they. I don't know. I think they could really use that. Like, they could do like a WNBA NBA collab and even have more. Like I think I saw on ESPN, they said maybe when Caitlin Clark comes up, we could see, like, Caitlin Clark and Sabrina. Sabrina versus Curry and Clay or something like.
[00:02:00] Speaker A: Or even Dame switch out clay for.
[00:02:02] Speaker B: Dame, or even dame three point champ. And we could do, like, shooting competitions with them and stuff. I would like to see that because Sabrina was shooting from the NBA line, not even the WNBA line, and she was splashing every single mean.
It's pretty crazy.
[00:02:23] Speaker A: I just remember, know, first of all, if y'all were watching the game, did y'all hear Kenny Smith talking all that stuff on live?
[00:02:32] Speaker B: Oh, wait.
[00:02:33] Speaker A: That's why I'm thinking, because he was talking all that stuff about Sabrina not shooting from the NBA line. He was saying not only was she using a girl's ball, which is, first of all, what do you expect her to.
[00:02:43] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:02:44] Speaker A: And then if she wasn't shooting from the NBA line, I mean, whatever.
[00:02:49] Speaker B: I mean, she did shoot from the NBA line, though.
[00:02:52] Speaker A: Yeah. Regardless, she was shooting the skin off the ball like the leather came off. You saw it. It was great. I think that was the highlight of the weekend.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Who knows what score she would have had if she saw it from the actual WNBA line. I mean, she probably would have own them. I thought she came off to a hot start and then it was that right wing. I think that's when she started to kind of like cool off and then Curry just did curry things. But she had 26, though. That was the highest score. Yeah, she owned in the actual three.
[00:03:21] Speaker A: Point contest and Brunson and all them. That was like the average for the night.
[00:03:26] Speaker B: Yeah, she tied like you said. Dame Trey Young, was it towns?
[00:03:31] Speaker A: Yeah, she tied like shoot, towns went off.
[00:03:34] Speaker B: Great shooter.
[00:03:35] Speaker A: Going to come back and win. But dame pulled it out. But definitely the three point contest was like the highlight. But man, let's go ahead and get into the dunk contest, bro. Throw that whole contest away this time.
[00:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I think I have a stat. Like, I didn't even know this, but since 2015, only four all stars have been in the dunk contest. So after that 2015 contest with Zach Levine, Aaron Gordon, I think some other dudes, it's only been four all stars to actually compete, which is Jalen Brown, Andre Drummond, Victor Oladipo and DeAndre Jordan.
And that's all the All Stars.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: And Aaron Gordon did it the next year after that. But got. Yeah, by way, so.
[00:04:20] Speaker B: But Aaron Gordon's not an all star.
[00:04:22] Speaker A: So still he should have won the second one if he didn't win the first know, to Levine.
[00:04:27] Speaker B: That's crazy. He doesn't have a single. He didn't win a single dunk contest.
Looking back at crazy.
[00:04:35] Speaker A: Yeah, like I honestly think that Jacob Toppin should have advanced instead of Jalen Brown because Jalen Brown, his dunks were in game dunks and it wasn't like it was impressive. Yeah, but a windmill and what? He jumped over Kaiser Nat sitting down. Like Shannon Sharp said, bro, he's 3ft tall. He sits down, he's one and a half foot tall. Yeah, like, nah, you can't be doing that.
[00:05:02] Speaker B: And then he had that tribute dunk to the person that died at know.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: Yeah, but he covered his eyes after the. So like I think he was supposed to cover his eyes while dunking. I think that was what it.
[00:05:15] Speaker B: Oh, that was the d. Brown tribute. I'm talking about the other one where he did a tribute dunk for the kid who died and then they drafted him. You remember in that one NBA draft where they drafted the kid that passed away and stuff. He got in a car accident.
He played for Kentucky.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: That's how unmemorable the dunk was, though. I don't even remember which dunk, because I remember, like I said, one where he covered his eyes after the dunk. And then I think that's the one you're talking about, though, because he only had two more. He had the windmill. It might be that one. And then he had the one where he jumped over Kai.
[00:05:52] Speaker B: And then I think for that other one, he did, like, a 360 windmill for the tribute dunk.
I don't know. It just felt like it was a normal dunk and stuff. And the reason they couldn't give it a bad score is because he's doing a tribute to him. You know what I'm saying? Which I definitely thought it was dope that he's doing a tribute to him. I was like, okay, let's see what he does. It's a 360 windmill, and it's just like. But you can't give that a bad score. You're putting the judges in a really bad position by. You know what I'm saying?
[00:06:26] Speaker A: But see, that's the thing. They were worried about being, like, I guess, correct or whatever. But see, they should have just.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: The judges were all over the place.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: Dunk.
[00:06:38] Speaker B: You remember that one guy that didn't. There's this one guy that didn't give Mac McClung a 50.
Remember, they didn't give Mac McClung a 50 for his first dunk. It was when he jumped over. Somebody caught the ball, dropped it, caught it back, and then reversed it. It was the very first dunk. It was insane. No one's ever done that dunk before. And they'd even give him a 50 his first try, too.
[00:07:03] Speaker A: That's crazy.
[00:07:05] Speaker B: And it was that one guy. I think it was the intro. I think he's, like a hall of famer or something, but he's, like an older guy, and he opened his eye or something. I don't know.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a weird intro that he did.
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Yeah, it was kind of funny that he did the eye thing, because it's almost like he couldn't see the actual dunk, and that's why he gave it a bad score, because he couldn't see what actually happened.
Yeah.
[00:07:26] Speaker A: I don't know. That contest was definitely.
I wouldn't say, honestly. We were talking about it, though, instead of, like, the dunk contest, like, how about we get a three v. Three, not a three v. Three, king of the court, three dribbles event.
[00:07:45] Speaker B: So that's my question. Yeah. What do you think they can do? Is that something you think they could do?
[00:07:50] Speaker A: I mean, or just get better people to participate in the dunk contest?
[00:07:56] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: Because I don't want to see Jalen Brown do in game dunks again. No discredit to him. He's a very talented player, but his dunk contest was weak.
[00:08:06] Speaker B: I thought it was funny that he did that left handed dunk, though. You remember that one where he put the glove on and then it was like. I thought that was kind of funny, though, that he didn't have a left hand.
[00:08:15] Speaker A: I was just mad at him. I ain't going to lie.
[00:08:17] Speaker B: Me too.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Out there just.
I don't know. He didn't set the tone like I thought he would. Last week on the show, I was, like, rooting for, like, he disappointed me.
[00:08:29] Speaker B: I was rooting for hame. But I feel like they robbed him, though, because if Jalen Brown can jump over Casanet and then Jame Hakas Jr. Jumps over Shaquille O'Neal and windmills it.
[00:08:42] Speaker A: And cleared him.
[00:08:47] Speaker B: A higher. Jalen Brown got a higher score for his dunk. It wasn't even a good d. Brown tribute. He did the little dab thing at the end.
So I don't know, dude. It just doesn't make sense because a lot of people wanted Jalen Brown to win because he is an all star, and if he won, then it would kind of prove to everybody know. But I just remember in the dunk contest, it was rough. The crowd was rough, dude. I'd just hear boo, like, after every dunk, whether it was the judging or it was the actual dunk, it was horrible, dude. But I did want to bring this up to you about just the all star game in general with this homeside, he said that the NBA should make it to where the winning conference should have home court advantage in the NBA Finals. So since it's a seven game series, he's saying that the conference who wins should get the four games at home and then the losing conference should just get three games at home.
[00:09:48] Speaker A: What, for the whole series or, like, the whole thing? Whole thing or just the finals?
[00:09:53] Speaker B: Just the finals.
[00:09:55] Speaker A: What was it based on in the past? Like record? Like playoff record?
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Yeah, I think it was just, like, seating and stuff.
[00:10:03] Speaker A: Well, no, because it's based on who gets there first. Remember, they get that bye week because they might be still playing true in game. So, no, I think they should keep it how it is.
That's the whole point. If you are winning like the Nuggets last year, they had so much time for a break because they pretty much like they swept everybody so they never went past five games. So they earned their break. I think they should keep it the way it is, me personally.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: So what incentive do you think they should?
Because that's just like they're just trying to make up the stakes for the All Star game. Do you think there should be an incentive or.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: It can not? I mean, not really, no. Because see, that's the whole point now, like why they're not competing. Why does it have to be an incentive? Shoot, their incentive. If they played good in the in season tournament, they could have got an extra 100k each.
I don't think there should be an extra incentive just because you win an all star game, the awards that are already given out, all star, MVP, all that type of stuff is incentive alone.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: I feel like if they did it back in the day, which I know the game's changed dramatically now, but I don't know, I just feel like it's kind of just over time. It's just slowly because people would start to play around and stuff and it'd be cool. And then slowly and slowly it just started to get more and more lazy to where it's just like people just shooting from half court and it's like people pay a lot of money, a lot of money to see that stuff. Especially like all star game tickets are expensive to get like all Star game weekend tickets and just to go show up to a game, to see somebody just pull it from half court every play, I wouldn't spend my money on it.
[00:11:56] Speaker A: Yeah, the level of competition in that game needs to just be elevated again because like you said back in the day, they used to have that competition where they played hard, hustled doe for loose balls and stuff. And not saying that it doesn't happen today, but basically doesn't, like you just said, if you can just walk down the court and chuck a half court shot and we see players make it, it's cool. But that's not something we want to see every play.
[00:12:30] Speaker B: Yeah, it's like when Dame does it and he makes two, that was like, oh, that's super cool. But then it goes, keeps going, keeps going, keeps going. Then it's just like, can we play basketball here? And I don't know, they keep talking about incentives, they talk about money, they talk about advantages, but I mean, at the end of the day, if the players don't want to play, they don't want to play. You know what I'm saying, there's nothing you can do about that. And I feel like people just have to step up, and it's like people are paying their hard earned money for this. That's what Kobe would anybody if he was struggling with an injury or something, he's like, no, I want to still play because I know people are trying to. Showing up to watch me play and perform.
[00:13:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, shoot. I feel like that's the whole point right there, though. It goes back into what we were just saying about they shouldn't even want an incentive. Like, think about the players who didn't get to play in the all Star game like this, in honor selections, but they didn't get to participate. So just the fact that you're even a part of that scenario and you get to play in an event like that, that, you know, pretty much everybody in the world is going to watch who cares about basketball even a little bit, that should be incentive enough to go out there. And, you know, I'm not saying we have to play like it's game seven of the finals, NBA Finals, but let me at least go out here, do my best on offense, turn it up on defense when it needs to be turned up. Like if a team's going on a run after a couple of threes, like, all right, now let's lock up. But instead, they kind of just jog around, do whatever, laugh it off, and then they want to try to turn it up in the fourth quarter. But how about we keep it turned up the whole game so that people aren't sleep? Because that's word on the street right now. People are asleep during all star weekend.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: I thought I saw. I remember this. I just remembered it. You know, like the trainers in the summer, you know, C. Brickley.
[00:14:26] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:27] Speaker B: Like, you know, the NBA trainer, they said his scrimmages were even better than the all star game. And that's in the summer. You could watch a C. Brickley scrimmage, like, summer scrimmaging, and it's like ten times better and more competitive than the all star game that drew league.
[00:14:43] Speaker A: Rico Hines runs.
[00:14:44] Speaker B: Rico Hines runs are really good.
That's what I thought of, too. Yeah. Could you see Russ out there hooping? You see Paul George, a lot of UCLA guys and Raptors. I don't know. There's always hooping over there, and it's just like, extremely competitive. They're trying to get better.
[00:15:00] Speaker A: Yeah, I forgot one thing. Know, games at the rucker up in, you know, it's better games going on there every day than what we just saw in the all Star game. So in terms of competition, and then.
[00:15:12] Speaker B: You mentioned Drew league and then Kyrie Irving doing stuff over the summer with more than a run. He started that up. I mean, they're doing stuff over there. I mean, there's countless, there's countless different scrimmages and stuff over the summer. They're ten times better than the all star game, competitive wise, and they have just as much stars. I mean, you see so many different all stars playing against each other.
Yeah, that's going to do it for this segment, y'all. That's our thoughts on the all star game. Hope you all can make it back, and we'll see you all after this quick intermission.
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[00:15:56] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:16:05] Speaker B: Welcome back, everyone, to the NBA student section. Me and Trey are back and we got some more news for y'all. The Brooklyn Nets just submitted coach K Wagen. Am I pronouncing that right?
[00:16:18] Speaker A: Vaughn?
[00:16:19] Speaker B: Vaughn. You just say Vaughn?
[00:16:22] Speaker A: Jock Vaughn, I guess.
[00:16:23] Speaker B: Jock Vaughn. Something like that. I'm sorry. If you're listening to this coach, hope you find a new job, too. And an even better one. But now they just rehired the new Brooklyn Nets assistant coach. They just bumped him up to the head coach, Kevin Ollie. And I thought it was kind of interesting. I researched this guy and I didn't even know it. He was assistants coach for the Nets. I knew that. But then for that he coached like, I think he coached in Connecticut and he even coached overtime elite. He coached some teams up there. And he had like a long NBA career, too. I think he might have played like, he played a bunch of seasons for a bunch of teams. So he kind of bounced around a little bit. But I don't know. I don't really know how he is as a coach, necessarily. I mean, he's definitely coached, been at some interesting.
Are you. I want to get your thoughts on the Nets, Trey. I know we've talked about them week after week on their struggles and stuff, but what do you think is something they can do at least now, to at least put them over the top and make them at least better than they are now?
[00:17:29] Speaker A: Yeah. So first of all, for the coaching position, you don't get where you are in that league without having experience of your own. So I'm not surprised that he has a long resume following him. But in terms of the nets improving, time will tell, obviously. But we have to see what this new coach is going to do for him. We have to see if any players are going to actually step up now because this is the time. If anybody's going to step up, it will be now. You know what mean, like a lot of trades are happening to them. So I think at this point they need to focus, know, finishing the season the best way they can. Like Cam Johnson has to step.
[00:18:19] Speaker B: Thomas.
[00:18:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:20] Speaker B: And then mean all those mean. There's not really much to talk. When you say players, I mean, who has to step up?
[00:18:30] Speaker A: My mind went blank, bro. It's like after those three, it's kind of like well after they're, they got.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Dennis Smith, they got a couple clacks.
[00:18:37] Speaker A: In, but then they're in the rebuild process themselves. I mean they are, shoot, they just had what, three stars, Harden, Kyrie and Katie, what, a couple years ago. Now they just back to square one basically.
[00:18:48] Speaker B: That's why I thought they should have traded Mikhail because somebody's going to overpay for.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:53] Speaker B: There's got to be some contender out there that wants like a third option, possible second option could have gave him.
[00:18:59] Speaker A: Up for some know.
[00:19:01] Speaker B: You know what, I would be really interested to see like Mikhail bridges as a second option because a lot of people just put him in that third option role. But I don't really want him to go back to his sons because I feel like the sons kind of underused him. Obviously, now that we know what he's capable of, I'd like to see him on a Sixers team without them beat right now to see how him and Maxi would play or even like, I don't know if they gave what he's in right now.
[00:19:28] Speaker A: I mean, they don't know a star center and I mean, it's him and a couple other pieces that can help.
[00:19:34] Speaker B: But I'm saying like two stars like Kim and Maxi. Yeah, I think Kim and Maxi would play really good.
[00:19:41] Speaker A: Mean, yeah, of course if you have put talent with talent, they'll do good. But the question is with him, can he do it by himself? And since he's not, that's why we're even talking about this in the first place.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:19:55] Speaker A: So let's see what he does by himself first to even see if he has any trade value, market value, and then if he doesn't, I think he.
[00:20:04] Speaker B: Has big trade value. Just looking into it, I feel like they could get a bag for him.
[00:20:11] Speaker A: It depends on what he does on the court, bro. If he doesn't perform on a court, then that trade value, whatever he has, is going to go down in the toilet.
[00:20:18] Speaker B: Yeah, true. So you got anything for him? Like any advice, just like it's not really much else.
[00:20:27] Speaker A: Same advice to everybody in the league, bro. Just go out there and hoop. Did they do the best you can? That's it.
[00:20:34] Speaker B: Try to come together there as a team, because we've seen teams like that. Like take, for instance, the Memphis Grizzlies. Right now, they're in the mud, they're in the ditch, but they're making the most of it. You know what I'm saying? I mean, they dug themselves a hole with all these injuries and stuff happening, but now their young guys are stepping up and they're mean. Granted, they're not the best team ever, but they're competing and beating a lot of some big time teams like the bucks that we just talked about last week. You know what I'm saying?
[00:21:07] Speaker A: Yeah. They're playing with a chip on their shoulder. Like you just said, they don't have their core guys or even any star talent right now, so everybody has to step up or step off. And in this case, they've been stepping up to the plate recently. Good on them. But it's kind of different when you're one of the main focuses. Like, even the Pistons, they finally won their one game that they did win.
[00:21:32] Speaker B: And now they're starting to pick.
[00:21:35] Speaker A: So if you get that chip on your shoulder to kind of step it up and lock in, then Sky's the limit for most of these teams. But facts, that's the point, though. Like, none of these teams, especially the, like, I don't think the Celtics play with that chip on their shoulder. You know what I mean?
[00:21:51] Speaker B: I feel like they're going to run into that in the playoffs because a lot of people are bragging about how the Celtics are this Celtics are, that they have the best team in basketball. That's not everything, dude. Just because it's, like, good on paper, just because we see it for a couple games, doesn't mean it's going to translate into seven game series.
[00:22:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
Back to the nets. Honestly, we pretty much said everything we had to say about them.
[00:22:17] Speaker B: Yeah.
But, yeah, moving on to that, I wanted to talk to you about this because this really interested me. We've talked about the Bucks. We've talked about, you know, there's different little areas. Know, you could blame the coach, but then there's also some areas know your stars have to step up. They need to command the team.
I thought JJ Reddick really called out Doc Rivers on first take, and everybody's getting their viewpoint on it. They're giving their opinion on it. I don't know, I just wanted to get your opinion on it. I don't know if you're aware of it.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: No, I'm not really. No.
[00:22:58] Speaker B: So basically, on first take, JJ Reddick just called out Doc Rivers and said.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: Wait, you talk about how he was just kind of trashing him, about the team being in shambles and how he.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: Always blames other people.
[00:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah, we've heard that before from other people, but at the same time, we already kind of knew that Doc was an overrated coach in terms of what he brings to the table because, yeah, he has that one championship with the Celtics back in, what, eight or something? I don't even know. That was a long time ago. But other than that, he hasn't won anything and he had the lob City Clippers, so if he didn't win with know, he's had other teams that know great in the know, he was just coaching in Philly.
[00:23:47] Speaker B: That team did have its limitations, though, going to the.
Yeah, I mean, because Blake and DeAndre Jordan, what are they going to do outside of that? Because Blake hasn't. Didn't develop his offensive game till Detroit. Then they had Chris Paul and Jamal. But I don't know JJ Reddick himself. Yeah. And Patrick Beverly did mention this. He said, mean Doc Rivers gave you an opportunity when no one else would. He started you when no one else would. And then you go online and you go on first take and just slander him like that. I mean, what's that say about you? You know what I'm saying? Because I get, he's an analyst now, and he's trying to make a name for himself outside of basketball, necessarily, and just being a player, but that's pretty cold.
[00:24:39] Speaker A: I guess. I think that's kind of looking into it a little deep. I mean, he's just like everybody else on tv. He's up there to give his opinion on the matter and because it wasn't necessarily right to, I guess, the masses then. Now JJ Reddick's the bad guy. I mean, I don't really look at it as know cold. It's kind of just know if anybody should say that, it should know him or one of the players that played for. Yeah, because they're the only ones who.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: Can say that for sure, who truly, I mean, even though they're saying bad things about JJ, Doc, whatever it may be. I mean, publicity is publicity. So either way, JJ is kind of winning now because if he is trying to get his name more predominantly know in that category with all those big names out there in the analyst world and ESPN, whatever it may mean, he still has publicity, so he's still winning either way, whether it's good or bad publicity, I guess.
[00:25:44] Speaker A: Yeah, but back to Doc Rivers, though. You're not safe, buddy. We already told you that you had to get it together with this team. You came in, they were the second best team in the conference, and now they've dropped like three spots. So, yeah, the stars have to do what they do because at the end of the day, it's on them. They're the ones who have to go out and play. So, like Shaq said, yannis and Dame have to command the team, know, be assertive and do what they need to do to lead the team. But at the same time, yeah, you just can't put everything on Doc Rivers, but you can't take it off of Doc Rivers either. Like, he still has to come up with the game plan. The players have to buy into his system. Yeah, I feel like that's the biggest problem. Right know, he doesn't have a system presented to him that they bought into.
[00:26:30] Speaker B: They're number three, right?
One loss, they're only one win behind the Cavaliers. But Cavaliers haven't even played like near as many games as, or they haven't played as many games as them. So, I mean, they're still sitting in that three seed, so it's not like they're horrible. But like you said, yeah, for these past few games, it's starting to look scary and I don't know, playoff hopes. Doc Rivers isn't really known for being that playoff coach, had that one run, but we've talked about it before.
He's had a lot of teams, and the Cavs are in that two spot. Cavs sinking in, and I thought that was interesting. The Sixers are in the five seed, right behind the Knicks and above the Indiana Pacers.
But also, this isn't on the list of our little topics that we have. But I wanted to talk to you about the Mavericks, not because it's biased, but because they're on a seven game win streak and now they're out of the play and they're at the 6th seed right behind the Pelicans, our nemesis. Right.
Do you think, what do you think about the Mavs? Do you think they can make that run? Because I know people say it's all really far fetched. I don't know. I'm kind of iffy about it, too, myself, even being a Maps fan.
[00:27:50] Speaker A: I mean, they're making that run right now. They're already on. What did you just say a seven game win streak.
[00:27:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm saying, like a playoff run, though.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, we're in the halfway point of the season, but if they keep playing how they're playing, if Kyrie and Luca drops 30 a game each, yeah, they can definitely make that playoff run because.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: Which they did last night, basically.
[00:28:18] Speaker A: They're too unstoppable up front, and then they have guys that can hit shot, like just last night. That's probably the best basketball we're going to see from them in terms of the standard they need to play at.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: True.
[00:28:29] Speaker A: Because everybody except Tim Hardaway Jr. Was knocking down their open shot.
[00:28:35] Speaker B: He had twelve, but he shot horrible.
Did not help you in prize picks.
[00:28:41] Speaker A: Yeah, one for nine from the three. Man, you sold my parlay.
So, yeah, I honestly think if they stay on the track they're on, they're already making the run now. So as long as nobody goes down, God forbid.
[00:28:57] Speaker B: Hey, don't say mention.
Don't mention people going down here, Trey. We don't want to jinx it.
[00:29:04] Speaker A: I didn't.
[00:29:06] Speaker B: Okay. We didn't say anything. We didn't say anything. Nothing happened.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: God forbid. What? You want to knock on wood? Go ahead, bro.
[00:29:13] Speaker B: I'm knocking on wood right now. Y'all can't see it, but we just did it. But anyways, yeah, I really like the Mavs. I think. I don't know. I'm kind of iffy on the playoff run. The pickups are awesome. PJ, Daniel, y'all are doing good. Y'all are really balling out there for us. And now we got Derek lively back. I mean, the bigs we don't have a problem with anymore. Our front court's good. It's just if our back court's going to stay healthy, if all the guys are going to stay healthy, and we're just going to keep hooping the way we do, and hopefully our defense, because our pickups have helped us on the defensive side, because especially in the beginning of the year, defense was a really big issue. So it's definitely helped us in the long run. But anyways, it seems like y'all figured it out, though, because we just had no offense to Dwight Powell and Maxie Cleaver, but that was it. And we were going up against, like, mean be Yannick, you know what I'm saying? That's tough ads.
That's tough to go against.
But anyways, before we end this segment, I want to get your thoughts on Jason Tatum and him saying he could be the face of the NBA because he's talking about how the pressure's all on him to win a chip and stuff and how everybody's talking to him and saying, know, especially with the team he has now, as we were just he, if he doesn't want a chip, mean, I don't know when he's ever going to want a chip. So do you think Tatum could be the face of the NBA, especially after LeBron tires?
[00:30:50] Speaker A: I mean, he could be, but it's more unlikely than know. The media has already been pushing Yama, Anthony Edwards, Sga, who's Halliburton for one. You could even throw him in there.
[00:31:07] Speaker B: Luca Jokic.
[00:31:11] Speaker A: Is really the face of the league when LeBron goes because he's got some years left in him.
[00:31:15] Speaker B: True.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Honestly, I think it's going to be Giannis. He's an international player. They're going to make it Giannis, Luca, Ant and maybe, you know, Jokic doesn't care about all that stuff enough to be the face. Like he's already shown in the situations. He's going to play around with the media anyway. Oh, I don't want to be here. I just want to get back to my horses.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, he just wants to get back to his horses.
[00:31:42] Speaker A: Yeah. So, I mean, tatum, he could have it, but like you just said, he has to win. But I mean, everybody kind of has to win, though. So that's why I say right now, it will be honest, because he won.
[00:31:54] Speaker B: I got you.
But yeah, he has won a chip. Can't forget about that. Yeah, against the Suns. But anyways, yeah, I thought it was interesting, too, because you mentioned Anthony Edwards and Carl Anthony challenge was just praising him, talking about how he could be the face of the mean. It's not like you can't see it. Dude's a mean. He's really showing everybody his work ethic and he's really showing everybody what he truly can become. I mean, it all goes back to when Steve Kerr said, that's why we didn't draft you because of your work ethic. And now Anthony Edwards is just proving day by day what he can be. So. Yeah, definitely. Anyway, that's going to do it for this segment. We'll be right back with more NBA news. Don't go away.
Welcome back to the NBA student section. We're back with more stuff to talk about and, yeah, we got some more stuff to talk about. We got the whole warriors controversy. I know we talk about him a lot, but I did want to get your thoughts on the whole, what's his name?
Pojemsky and Draymond, the feud they had in practice earlier and how Pojemski Draymond was trying to get back in his game and know, trying to get back in it. And then Pojinsky is like, we can't have those turnovers. We can't have those turnovers. And then Draymond over for game, and then Draymond's like, okay, I'm cool with you talking like, but if you're going to talk like this, you need to talk like this all the, like, you can't just start talking like this when, like, off the court and stuff and know, having as big of a leadership role as I'm supposed to be just because know, going through all these, just the different complicated things he went through in the NBA, you know what I'm saying? And now Pojemski wants to step up and be the talking guy. Like, hey, you need to do this. You need to do this when he's a rookie. That's good.
[00:34:15] Speaker A: We need people to step up. I mean, what did Kobe do and what did Jordan do? They didn't wait till they was in a, what, third or fourth season to step up. They stepped up as soon as they got there.
[00:34:27] Speaker B: True.
[00:34:28] Speaker A: But then they also had earned their respect, too. Like, they still had to earn it. Respect wasn't given to them. They had to go out there and show why they were going to be the lead guy. So in this case, I think he was honestly just trying to get better in practice. I think it was nothing more than a moment of just like, you just messed it up for us. We could have won the game, you turned it over, and that's not even know you have other teammates for a reason. I feel like that's what he was.
[00:34:59] Speaker B: Trying to say, because Draymond does try to put it all on himself sometimes.
[00:35:05] Speaker A: Yeah. But then we got know, kind of remember who Draymond is. Like, he's kind of that guy. I'm not going to say he's looking for an issue, but at the same time, he kind of invites it.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Feels that way sometimes.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: Yeah, he kind of invites it. So in this case, he was just kind of saying, like, that's cool. I'm glad you talking up and stepping up for us, but do that all the time. Don't just do a one time in kind of.
[00:35:31] Speaker B: I agree with that, though.
[00:35:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:35:33] Speaker B: Because if you're going to come with that mean, because a lot of people like to step up as a leader, especially when someone does something wrong or especially, like, Draymond's in a vulnerable point at that time when that happened because know, he doesn't even have a spot on the roster and he's just now getting back in the roster because of the suspension and then know he wants to just be like, oh, why aren't you doing this? Why aren't you doing, you know, talk to Draymond like, he isn't the veteran, you know what I'm saying? So if he is going to come with that approach, then, like Draymond said, he needs to do it all the time.
[00:36:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean, he's just got to go earn his, like, especially somebody like, know his respect isn't just given. Definitely got to fight for that kind of respect.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: I think Pajinski's been hustling though first.
[00:36:24] Speaker A: Team and, but, you know, that locker room is just kind of a mess anyway. But I mean, they're figuring it, know, it's kind of a lot of tension in that room from the vets because Draymond and Clay probably feel like they're on the back burner of their career, while Curry probably has, he probably has what, four or five, I don't know how many seasons. He has a lot of seasons backpack the entire, I mean, he's still kind of on the back and he performs like it's the reason Curry is the franchise.
Know, everybody's really just playing with a chip on their shoulder, but I feel like more so Draymond and, you know, especially clay, man, that man, he takes stuff so. Takes it hard.
[00:37:12] Speaker B: I won't say seriously because it is serious, but he's just hard on himself. He's extremely hard on himself.
[00:37:20] Speaker A: He's probably letting the media get to him, too, but at the same time, he's really just more frustrated with himself, from what I understand.
But at the same time, it's kind of like you know what you're not doing, but let's get in the gym to make sure that no matter what, you're going to knock down that shot when we need you to knock it down. We don't expect you to make every shot, but you don't need to just, I guess, get down on yourself too much because everybody misses.
[00:37:48] Speaker B: He went through a lot, though, in that span where he missed those two seasons.
He's probably just hungry just to be back to his old self, back to what he was.
[00:37:59] Speaker A: It's been about two, three seasons. He can't be what he used to be. That's the whole point. He needs to figure out a way to play to his strengths. Like, if he's not as fast or whatever.
[00:38:09] Speaker B: It's just hard for a person to accept that, especially at the peak of what he was.
It's hard.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: Yeah, it's been a minute, so accept it. Not going to lie. It's been a been about two seasons.
[00:38:22] Speaker B: Hard truth.
[00:38:22] Speaker A: Seasons from that injury.
[00:38:27] Speaker B: Hard truth. But I mean, still truth. But anyways, moving on from that topic, yeah, the warriors got a lot to talk about. They got a lot to think about.
But they can still make a run. They're still in that play in. They're at the back burner of the play in at that 10th seed, but I mean, they're still in the play in, you know what I'm saying? So there's still hope. At the end of the day, there's still hope. But anyways, I really was interested on this. Before we go away, before we're done with the show, I really want to talk to you about the Knicks having six first round picks in these next two drafts. Now granted, the Knicks are known for not making necessarily like well, they have made bad picks, but when they do get a good guy and they pick him up from the draft, they're not known for developing that player very well.
So what's your take on the Knicks longevity and do you think they can with these six first round picks in the next two drafts, do you think they can really capitalize on that?
[00:39:33] Speaker A: Yeah, they should be able to. Honestly, I feel like their first pick, like the first type of player they go for is a big man, just some kind of star class big man because Julie, his know, he wants to be a guard anyway. He's big, but he's shown time and time. He'd rather be on the three point line, playing out of the mid range, still doing step back jumpers. So we need it like New York needs a real big man that's going to do that dirty work. Like know basically doing the role. But you know, big shoot, they need a joel and B, they need a Yokich. They need something like that because all.
[00:40:10] Speaker B: Their bigs are getting injured like Hernan Gomez and then precious Achua and then Jericho Sims.
[00:40:17] Speaker A: Yeah, they need a bam out of bio type of player, type of center because Bam is committed to doing that work for his team.
[00:40:24] Speaker B: He can get scrappy and he knows what he needs to do for his team. Yeah.
[00:40:27] Speaker A: And he still gets buckets. Yeah, he, yeah.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Starting center for the all star game. It might have been because of the technicality, but still he still got there, but yeah. Do you think they would be able to capitalize on those other picks, too.
[00:40:41] Speaker A: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. They could get a good big man first, probably get some kind of small forward three guard next because they have guards, like in terms of point guards and stuff, so I think they're good on that front.
[00:40:53] Speaker B: Yeah, Brunson's probably. I mean, he's locked in, I would think.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: Yeah, him mean, he's like, josh Hart is like at the power forward, small forward type of position, but he's at. Yeah, yeah, he's interchangeable. And then they have quickly.
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Well, no, quickly is at Toronto.
[00:41:10] Speaker A: My bad, my bad. Not quickly. OG and Obi, I'm tripping.
[00:41:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:41:15] Speaker A: So they're good on guards, I think, for now.
[00:41:19] Speaker B: It wouldn't be bad, though, to get like that younger player, though, because OG is starting to get a little.
He's almost 30, I would think. And then Dante and Josh Hart aren't the youngest players either, so maybe like a Ford, like you're saying. Maybe even sneak. Well, they already have some backup cards. I don't know, but they really do need a big man.
[00:41:39] Speaker A: They need a star center, and then they just need, after that, they just need supporting. You know, if you get that big three with Brunson, Randall, and whoever that center could be or even make a trade in the offseason, like I said, I wouldn't mind going for Bam if I was New York.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Yeah. They really just need a big.
But you think they should go for a trade? Maybe trade some of those picks.
[00:42:01] Speaker A: They don't even have to, you know, with your first know, like I said, look for a big man. That's what I would tell the Knicks. If I'm the next front office, I'm looking for the next star center. I'm looking for the next Joel Embiid.
[00:42:12] Speaker B: That might be smart, though, to trade some of those first in a package and stuff, because they are win now type.
[00:42:19] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:42:20] Speaker B: Especially with Brunson and Julius Randall kind of like in the older.
And a lot of their lineup is at that older range, especially with their new pickup with Alec Burks and Boyan. Bogdanovich. Yeah, or Bojan Bokdanovich, I should say. There's a lot of bogdanoviches out there, dude.
[00:42:38] Speaker A: They just have a good mix of people on the team right now. They have young guys, they have vets. They have the Jalen Brett and Julius Randall category where you're kind of in the know, Josh Hart. So, yeah, the Knicks are know. Like I said, they need a center just like bam or bam. But I don't think bam, they could pick up bam.
[00:42:56] Speaker B: That'd be a good pickup for him.
[00:42:58] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think Bam will leave Miami, though, because him and Jimmy Butler have a good thing going on. They just got Terry Rosier even though they wanted Dame.
[00:43:05] Speaker B: But who knows then they got the on, right? So they got that guard situation.
[00:43:09] Speaker A: Yeah. Depending on what they do in this playoff run, dame might either. I figure he's going to stay with the bucks. I don't think he will make that switch just to leave, but just in case. We never know.
[00:43:21] Speaker B: Yeah, you never know.
[00:43:22] Speaker A: Nobody expected KD to go to the warriors after getting beat by them that bad. So we never know. We don't know.
[00:43:28] Speaker B: It's just if Tyler hero can stay healthy and then Jimmy Butler, if he can actually get buckets, especially in the finals when they needed the know.
[00:43:37] Speaker A: Oh, well, shoot, he was the reason they even went that far in the finals. If we want to go there.
[00:43:41] Speaker B: Yeah, but I mean, at the end of the day, if you're going to win at all, you know what I'm saying? You can't ease off that gas pedal, man.
[00:43:49] Speaker A: Him and Bam need help though, bro. Because I'm talking about, if you go back and look at it, bro, Jimmy was doing. Remember he had 55 points, 56, that type of stuff.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: But not last year, though.
[00:43:59] Speaker A: Last year in the playoffs.
[00:44:01] Speaker B: Well, I'm talking about just the NBA Finals.
No, he didn't, but yeah, true. Like in that buck series, though.
[00:44:09] Speaker A: But they were going against the Nuggets, though. That was really the best team in the NBA. That's what I'm saying. They're fresh off the championship this year. That's what I'm saying. That's why I predicted the Nuggets going back. It just depends on what was happening in the west. Teams are so good right now, it's anybody's for the taking.
[00:44:26] Speaker B: They needed guards, so I think those pickups definitely helped them.
[00:44:29] Speaker A: Yeah. All right, well, shoot, that's going to wrap up the show this time. We appreciate everybody for listening, tuning in and shoot, we'll see you next time.
[00:44:40] Speaker B: Yes, we'll see you all.
