Talking bids, the no quit Vikings and a Titans rebuild? - Student Section: NFL 10.24.23

Talking bids, the no quit Vikings and a Titans rebuild? - Student Section: NFL 10.24.23
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Talking bids, the no quit Vikings and a Titans rebuild? - Student Section: NFL 10.24.23

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On this episode of Student Section: NFL, Jaylon, Connor and Tanner discuss the Eagles v. Dolphins game – including the Jalen Hurts injury, Sean Desai defense – and react to the Kevin Byard trade from the Titans. They also debate Kirk Cousins still being in his prime, talk the emergence of USC-product Jordan Addison and the growing concerns surrounding the 49ers defense. Listen to this and more on this week’s edition of Student Section: NFL, available on voices.ua.edu, Apple Podcasts, Spotify and broadcasting LIVE on 90.7 FM in Tuscaloosa from 7-8 p.m. CT every Tuesday! Follow WVUA-FM Sports on X […]
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[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM tuscaloosa. [00:00:15] Speaker B: Oh, my God. We're already off. Hot start. [00:00:17] Speaker C: Wow, guys. [00:00:17] Speaker A: Brain aneurysm off the bat. [00:00:19] Speaker B: Oh, my God. That was awful. But hello, you are listening to the student section NFL on WVUA 90.7, the capstone. My name is Jalen Brooks. I'm your host for tonight, and I'm here with my two co hosts, tanner Thompson what up? And Connor rules. [00:00:33] Speaker C: Hello. [00:00:33] Speaker B: All right. How are you guys doing tonight? I feel like we're feeling pretty good, pretty amped. [00:00:37] Speaker A: I'm doing very swell. [00:00:39] Speaker C: All right, you know what? [00:00:39] Speaker B: Wow. [00:00:42] Speaker C: I'm flustered right now. He kind of stole my line. What are you malfunctioning? You didn't see that? [00:00:47] Speaker A: Do you have any adjective about yourself other than the word swell? [00:00:50] Speaker C: I got to think right now. No, I'm doing quite swell. But the only problem is I'm kind of a little worried because game seven my God. Game seven to Phillies are tonight. [00:01:00] Speaker A: I timed that. I think we got 30 seconds into the show before the Phillies were brought up. [00:01:05] Speaker C: Game seven, it's a big deal. Winner goes to the world series. Losers go home. [00:01:10] Speaker B: I can say for most people, they're just excited it's not going to be astros and Phillies again because Astros were. [00:01:16] Speaker C: Just I think people are excited it's not going to be Astros in it. [00:01:18] Speaker B: Yeah, well, good point. I mean, it's also just cool to see the rangers do what they did. [00:01:22] Speaker C: Yeah, for sure. [00:01:23] Speaker B: But in the meantime, we're talking about. [00:01:25] Speaker C: The fight and fills the fight ins. Please don't you're screaming like it's still. [00:01:29] Speaker A: The game going on. We're talking about the fight ins here. The fightings said there is no reason to play that. What are we doing? [00:01:39] Speaker C: Are you sure? I mean, I kind of want to hear it. [00:01:41] Speaker A: We haven't mentioned football once. [00:01:43] Speaker C: And we are we mentioned this is a football show. We did say that. [00:01:46] Speaker A: What? [00:01:47] Speaker B: It is a football show. [00:01:48] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. [00:01:48] Speaker B: But we do have to mention the. [00:01:50] Speaker A: Lines are being blurred. The lines are being blurred. We're losing track of what? [00:01:55] Speaker C: You know what? We're not going to talk about the Phillies. How about the meagles? [00:01:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Let's go to. [00:02:02] Speaker A: My point stands, but I can still get on with it. [00:02:04] Speaker B: A little bit more on board. [00:02:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:02:06] Speaker B: All right. Well, I know we have no Evan here tonight, unfortunately. [00:02:09] Speaker C: Our dog, he's kind of ducking smoke right now. [00:02:10] Speaker A: That is brutal. He did he was talking a lot. [00:02:12] Speaker B: Of smack last week, but apparently he's out sick today. [00:02:15] Speaker C: Quote unquote sick. [00:02:17] Speaker B: Yeah. But we're hoping he gets better. And why don't you step in for Evan today as the dolphins fan? [00:02:23] Speaker A: The dolphins advocate. [00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah. And while we talk about the eagles versus the dolphins game, a lot of things to talk about. One of the things I would just want to start off saying is the first drive was absolutely terrible. [00:02:35] Speaker C: The first drive was great until the red zone. [00:02:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:39] Speaker C: That's what we should clear up. [00:02:40] Speaker B: Yeah. But, I mean, pretty much for the rest of the game, the red zone didn't seem to be that much of an issue. But just to start the game, first drive, red zone, third and nine. You're calling a kiwi sneak? I think we were all a little bit caught off guard. [00:02:52] Speaker A: QB sneak. [00:02:53] Speaker B: I mean, Kibi run. [00:02:54] Speaker C: Okay. I honestly don't after looking at it, I look back at it and it looked like there was a play designed. And if we get I don't say bird eye view, but the view behind the quarterback. Yeah. All 22, there was kind of a gap. What we usually do for the QB. [00:03:09] Speaker B: A little RPO action. [00:03:10] Speaker C: No, it's just like there's nobody in the box. It's just the lineman, and then everyone's spread out wide. No, I'm saying I think there was a play called up, and Jalen saw that and was like he kind of audibled to it. That's what I saw. [00:03:23] Speaker B: You just don't think it was the play call? [00:03:24] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't think it was a play call. I think it was more of just an audible. Hey, he saw space. I saw space. Yeah, that's what I thought happened. [00:03:30] Speaker B: Well, I will say that kind of changes my opinion. I know we've been kind of critical of Brian Johnson, the Eagles offensive coordinator, but I will say over the past couple of weeks, what I like what he's been doing, especially from the offense kind of standpoint, he's been getting Dallas Goddard. [00:03:42] Speaker A: Yes. [00:03:43] Speaker C: There you go. [00:03:43] Speaker A: Goddard. Well done. [00:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Emphasize because they always like to give me a little bit stuff, but Dallas got it. He's getting more and more involved each week. We're seeing him a lot more involved in these jailbreak screens. I mean, just getting the short, quick pass out to Dallas and let him take it up the sideline. I think we saw that just to start the game. The first touchdown. Really? Yeah, the first don't think I know we can talk about AJ. Brown and his receiving and his abilities, but I don't think his ability to block is talked about enough because there's a couple times where he's just manhandling the person in front of him to get small plays like Dallas and for DeAndre Swift. But I have to give Brian Johnson a little bit of credit right there. And then also, we're starting to see Jalen Hurts more in the empty set, a little bit more just completely alone in the backfield. And what that's just setting up is just DeAndre Swift just getting out, being on the sideline, setting up some man coverage against linebackers. And it's cool to just see us actually utilizing the running back position, not just from running the ball and being a rushing team. [00:04:39] Speaker A: Right. Also, I mean, to have a guy like Jalen Hurts, who is probably, I would argue, the most dangerous running quarterback in between the tackles just from it, because we know he's a talented running back or not a talented quarterback, excuse me, but he's also an incredibly strong guy that really helps you in those areas. Like Lamar Jackson is still the best runner at the quarterback position, I think by a pretty significant margin. [00:05:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I would definitely give that to him. [00:05:02] Speaker A: But I think between the tackles, jillian Hurts we've seen doing a million. He can put his head down, he can go get some yards, but he's also capable of an explosive play. So when you're lining up an empty and what that forces is you got to have five guys outside because they're putting all five skill players on the outside and you're inevitably taking guys out of the box. And that means you got to have guys over top because if there's five receivers out in the field you would think you'd need to have two safeties. You don't want to know just one high to cover all these guys. So next thing you know you've got four, maybe five guys in the box and it's with Jalen Hurts in the backfield and five blockers in front of him. I mean, that's a somewhat dangerous thing to have to decide between as a defense. Yeah, no personnel. [00:05:48] Speaker C: When you were saying Lamar, I think it goes Lamar Justin Fields and then Jalen Hurts for dangerous rushers at the QB position. Absolutely, yeah. But like you were saying, I remember going back to training camp when we first got DeAndre Switz, we heard a lot about how dangerous he was lining up outside the numbers, just being that 5th, 3rd, 4th wide receiver on these sets. So it's nice to see it eventually happen in the regular season. And I think if we just keep continuing this, it's going to be very dangerous. A lot of trick plays I feel like could come out of this or know, get a linebacker on DeAndre Swift's slant route, wheel route, just even maybe a streak. I'm interested to see what we can build off of with this. [00:06:31] Speaker B: Maybe another Philly. Philly, somewhere down the line, maybe. [00:06:34] Speaker C: I'm not saying it a little harder. [00:06:36] Speaker A: To pull it off when Jalen Hurts is the threat and not Nick Foles. [00:06:39] Speaker B: But yeah, good point. [00:06:40] Speaker A: They're going to keep a guy on Jalen Hurts. [00:06:42] Speaker B: He's got a little bit more attention. But I will say, speaking of Jalen Hurts, you guys are talking about his running ability, but we saw like during that game he was limping out there. Apparently the reports that he put on a knee brace in the middle of the game. Are you guys concerned about that injury? I know Connor has an Eagles fan. [00:07:00] Speaker C: So yes, I'm a little concerned just because he's not 100%, but at the same time it's Jalen Hurts and he's going to play through everything. [00:07:06] Speaker A: Right. And I know there's a line there though. [00:07:09] Speaker C: There is a line and I was looking back at it and I saw this, but I really do think that knee injury came against the Rams. Do you all remember when he got hit and he kind of like, I don't want to say stumbled. [00:07:20] Speaker A: It was tweaked. [00:07:20] Speaker C: I remember talking. I have a feeling it was because of that and just playing each week. I know. Against the jets, he didn't look great running the football. [00:07:29] Speaker A: Right. [00:07:29] Speaker C: And then this week he looked a lot slower than usual and just protected himself more. I know. Oh, exactly. [00:07:36] Speaker B: He literally has seemed like to be able to oh, wow, that's really bad. But it seems more recently he's kind of figured out kind of like that Russell Wilson escapist. [00:07:46] Speaker C: That fourth downplay, AJ. Brown is what I'm thinking of. [00:07:49] Speaker B: And I just want to say, for someone who relies on rushing and that knee is a big concern, but how about for Jalen Hurts? Number 32 rushing career touchdowns for a quarterback, the most ever in Eagles history, tying can you guess who? Randall Cunningham. [00:08:06] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:08:07] Speaker B: Last time that happened is actually when they were wearing the Kelly Green jersey. So it's kind of cool. [00:08:12] Speaker C: That is pretty cool. [00:08:14] Speaker B: One of the weird twist events right. [00:08:16] Speaker C: And I love it, was because of the brotherly shove, the most unstoppable play in football history right now. [00:08:21] Speaker B: And that's actually kind of I was going to go into the brotherly shove. I think Nick Siriani had a great quote after the game. He said, every first down is first, and it's first and nine. [00:08:31] Speaker C: First and eight. [00:08:32] Speaker B: Really? And we were talking about this earlier. It seems like the conversation around the brotherly shove is coming. Like people want it to stay. They're starting to see, like you guys mentioned, not everyone can do it. [00:08:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. At the beginning of the season, when we were the only team doing it and we doing it every time, everyone was, oh, it's more like rugby. It shouldn't be in the NFL. It's too overpowered. And then you see all these other teams try and do it, and it's just not the same. I mean, we saw last night with the Vikings and 49 ers Kirk Cousins tried to do it, and Fred Warner leaped over and just made the tackle. [00:09:04] Speaker A: Right. [00:09:05] Speaker C: But you can't do that against Jalen Hurts because of how low they get. [00:09:08] Speaker A: Because he's a freak. [00:09:09] Speaker C: He is a freak. [00:09:10] Speaker B: And that offensive line yeah, that offensive line is amazing. Just from Kelsey Diggerson, I'm blanking on the right guard who played last night, cam Jergens. Well, he was out. [00:09:19] Speaker C: Oh, he was out. Was it? [00:09:20] Speaker B: It's like opalika. [00:09:21] Speaker C: Oh, SUA opeta. [00:09:23] Speaker B: Yeah. I couldn't say that name. Excuse me. But yeah, at one point we saw him run it four times in a row. And that just goes to show, like, that is pretty yeah. But let's go ahead and talk about the defensive side. [00:09:35] Speaker C: Yeah, that's the side I want to get into, man. Jalen Carter, he might be a top five defensive tackle in the league already. Right now, just the way he's playing. [00:09:46] Speaker A: I don't think that's unfair, and I. [00:09:47] Speaker C: Think Jordan Davis is not getting enough credit for what he's been doing. [00:09:50] Speaker B: Huge improvement. [00:09:50] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:09:51] Speaker A: I mean, Jordan Davis is a slightly I think their roles are different on. [00:09:55] Speaker C: The defensive line, for sure. [00:09:56] Speaker A: Jordan Davis just takes up space and takes up men. You know what? [00:09:59] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:10:00] Speaker A: He just gets his hands on people and moves them in a place that makes it hard for the offensive line to operate. And that combined with Jalen Carter, who's an incredibly skilled and incredibly powerful defensive tackle, but kind of end a little. [00:10:16] Speaker C: Bit, I feel like he's more of an Aaron Donald kind of player. [00:10:18] Speaker A: He's lining up over the guard, but you can put him close to the tackle and he'll still be successful. He can go pretty much anywhere. [00:10:25] Speaker B: I just want to say earlier in the season, I want to say maybe our third show, I made the comparison of Jalen Carter to Aaron Donald. I think Tanner wasn't too high on that. Have you come around? Yeah. [00:10:33] Speaker A: Because you compared him to the greatest defensive tackle of all time. [00:10:36] Speaker B: Yeah, but I meant potential. Well, you make a fair, so see. [00:10:40] Speaker A: How fast he drew back on fair. [00:10:43] Speaker B: That's a fair. Yeah. Okay. [00:10:45] Speaker C: But I don't want to just give credit to the interior because, yes, that was very impressive, but Son Reddick looked really good. Josh Sweat still looks amazing. [00:10:52] Speaker A: Yeah, I still can't believe the Panthers gave up. Should have. He was so clearly good. We should have resigned. [00:11:00] Speaker C: You know, the secondary looked great, and wow, did we just make a big improvement. We'll get to that later, though. We'll get to that later. [00:11:07] Speaker B: A little tease right there, but I. [00:11:09] Speaker C: Just want to say how insane this defense looked against this Miami high powered offense. [00:11:14] Speaker A: The Eagles secondary really impressed me. [00:11:17] Speaker C: Eli Ricks had a great game. Eli Ricks really did, which is really. [00:11:21] Speaker A: Cool, which is really cool to see Eli Ricks have a good game. But I think something as under the secondary, it really did play well. But I think something that's kind of underrated in football is the correlation of pass rush stats to pass coverage stats. When the pass rush is working, it makes the secondary's job really easy. [00:11:40] Speaker C: Tua had no time. [00:11:41] Speaker A: Exactly. And he normally has the quickest time to throw, but, I mean, even then, if that pocket starts collapsing faster, maybe it's not necessarily a sack, but if those guards get pushed in a few extra feet, then your base is already off. I mean, there's so many things that can go wrong. And again, I think investing in the trenches on both sides, which is what the Eagles always kind of have done, but have done very successfully for the past few years, that is a winning formula to NFL football, and I think. [00:12:12] Speaker B: You guys pretty much covered everything, but I just want to add one thing. I just want to give credit to Sean Desai. [00:12:17] Speaker C: Sean Desai, back to back weeks, what. [00:12:19] Speaker B: An amazing performance we were seeing out of him. He's the Eagles defensive coordinator. In my opinion. Huge step up from Jonathan Gannon. I mean, I think I'm going to throw this number out as you guys and let me just know your opinion. But what we saw last night, the way he kept changing the defense, he kept Miami guessing, he kept tua on his toes. And just so you guys know, through weeks one through five, the Eagles have only been in cover two, formation 2.9%. [00:12:44] Speaker A: Wow. [00:12:44] Speaker C: That's crazy. Because, I mean, last year, that's all really gain and ran. [00:12:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:12:48] Speaker C: And it really made me upset because, yeah, we wouldn't give up the big plays, but it just felt like every play was five, six yards. And it was just annoying. [00:12:56] Speaker B: And that's why I'm saying it's so different because last night, week six, during the Dolphins game, the Eagles ran cover 234.7%. That game alone, tying the highest amount for the NFL teams using cover two that week. [00:13:10] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:13:10] Speaker B: So you can just see how Sarronde sai he's not sticking to one thing. Every 1st, 2nd, 3rd down, it's completely different on what he's showing. And I think he had a one great play where he was showing all blitz and then it just last minute went to his own coverage. But just credit to Sean Desai. I just had to get that out. [00:13:28] Speaker C: Before we move on to the next game. I do want to say this one thing and I think it's going to happen every time. When you have a team with just speed and finesse and fancy play calling, all the motion, all stuff like that, and you have another team which is just straight power. [00:13:43] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:43] Speaker C: This is always going to happen. I saw something funny earlier today, and this is honestly so true. When you think of these two teams facing off against each other, you have the Dolphins, you think a dance off and you have Eagles. You think you're going to go out into a street fight and absolutely Pumple somebody. [00:13:59] Speaker A: Right. [00:13:59] Speaker C: And you have all the pretty plays, the tyree kill, the two with all the motion, the rollouts, the zone blocking, and you have the Eagles who just Pumble you up front. [00:14:09] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:10] Speaker A: The Dolphins were down some playmakers in the secondary. David Howard and Joan Ramsey. And again, it did show every time AJ. Brown touched the football, not just this game. [00:14:21] Speaker B: You can go back and look at their loss to the Bills. Stefan Diggs had himself a game when he went up. [00:14:26] Speaker A: They need Jill and Ramsey to get back on. And Howard and Zambian Howard. But Zavian Howard's been in for most of the season. [00:14:33] Speaker C: Yeah, no, he has. [00:14:34] Speaker A: Okay. [00:14:34] Speaker C: It was just this week. [00:14:35] Speaker A: I feel like he was to they need the help. Apple cannot be the best corner and. [00:14:40] Speaker B: Also just to add to the people that they're missing. Taron, I think I'm saying that makes. [00:14:44] Speaker A: A lot of sense. [00:14:45] Speaker C: It does. [00:14:45] Speaker A: Also, what happened last night. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. They got killed on that O line. And also, just to say on the Miami's offense, just real quick coming into this game, they had seven yards average after the catch against the Eagles, they only had two. And another thing I just want to mention, just like we talked about, the way that the Eagles were able to stop the run at halftime, had negative seven rushing yards, and by the end of the game, only 45. It was the lowest output of Mike McDaniel's coaching career since he's taken over. [00:15:14] Speaker A: Wow. [00:15:14] Speaker B: So that just goes to credit on how good that Eagles defense was. [00:15:17] Speaker A: Serious defense. [00:15:18] Speaker C: And they just made a huge upgrade. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that's a good transition because we are going to talk about that right after we get back from break. You guys are listening to the students section on WVUA 90.7, the Capstone. I'm Jalen Brooks here with my two co hosts, Connor and Tanner Thompson. We are about to get back underway with Section B. I guess pretty much. We're going to talk about the 49 ers and the Vikings game. [00:16:11] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:16:12] Speaker B: And so let me just ask you guys, what's your overall that was a great game. [00:16:15] Speaker C: It was a great game, right? [00:16:17] Speaker A: It was Kurt Cousins, man. [00:16:18] Speaker B: He's in his prize. [00:16:19] Speaker C: Shout out. [00:16:20] Speaker A: Kurt Cousins. [00:16:21] Speaker C: He's been balling this year. Kirko chains without Jay Jefferson. [00:16:24] Speaker A: He's playing amazing. That one. That Jordan. [00:16:26] Speaker C: That jordan addison. [00:16:27] Speaker A: That was awesome. That was crazy. Not known for being a ball winner or just dunking on DBS, but that was a pretty sick play. [00:16:34] Speaker C: That was crazy. [00:16:35] Speaker B: We talked about this last week, and I don't mean to keep bringing up Eagles names, but he truly does remind me of Devontae Smith. Like, the way he plays, his body type, the way he can somewhat go up and get jump balls. [00:16:48] Speaker A: Yeah. He's an incredibly skilled receiver. I think that's what defines Devontae Smith is that, again, there's nothing from a skill perspective that he can't do in the football field as a wide receiver. I really don't think he has a weakness in that department. [00:17:00] Speaker B: And I think you can make the case for Jordan Addison. [00:17:02] Speaker A: Like, absolutely, yeah. I obviously need to see more from him. But at this stage, I think you can definitely great start. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Seven touchdowns on the year, something like that. Six or seven. [00:17:14] Speaker C: I'm not quite sure. [00:17:15] Speaker A: It's close. He definitely benefited from playing with Justin Jefferson. [00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:19] Speaker A: But, I mean, he still had a great night last night. And yeah, you can't knock it that much. [00:17:24] Speaker B: Another thing I want to shout out is just like their O line, they giving Kirk all that time. [00:17:28] Speaker C: Six touchdowns. [00:17:29] Speaker B: Six touchdowns. [00:17:30] Speaker A: Touchdowns. [00:17:31] Speaker B: So good for him. Yeah, just but shout out that O line for the vikings. They just gave Kirk so much time in that pocket, especially the left and right tackles, brian O'Neill and Christian Darasaw, who won 39 out of 40 snaps against Nick Bosa. I think that's a crazy stat that. [00:17:46] Speaker A: Is overlooked raining deployment. [00:17:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:48] Speaker A: Good Lord. [00:17:49] Speaker B: So I just think it's good that he's healthy and he's out there this year because I know they needed him last year and he went down for a little bit. But the left tackle out of Virginia Tech, just making a name for himself near my hometown. [00:18:03] Speaker A: Virginia tech reference. [00:18:04] Speaker C: Let's go. Virginia Tech. [00:18:06] Speaker B: Go ahead. But. [00:18:09] Speaker C: It was honestly a lot. It was more disappointing on the 49 ers part than the Vikings part, in my opinion. I mean, yes, you would want to see the 49 ers pull that off, but you don't have Trent Williams, you don't have Debo Samuel. But at the same time, you still. [00:18:24] Speaker A: Have a great team. [00:18:25] Speaker C: You have Christian McCaffrey, who is probably the best running back in the league. You still have a great line. You have Brandon Ayuk. You have George Kittle. I know they have Ray Ray McLeod. But let's not say that we're talking about more I can't think of any more receivers. [00:18:40] Speaker B: Jennings. [00:18:40] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Jennings. Yes. So I'm just saying, you're supposed to dunk on this terrible Vikings defense, right? Yeah, Brock Purdy looked horrible. I don't know why. I guess it was because of Debo and CMC and George Kittle and the O line while he was in the MVP. [00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah, it was that favorite. He's in a very good spot. [00:19:01] Speaker C: Looking at that. I know we were talking about this earlier. How much would you all give Brock Purdy if you were an NFL GM? [00:19:10] Speaker A: For me, personally, I think if I'm the Niners, I'd give him more. I think I'd give him significantly more if I'm a GM of the Niners than any other team in the league by far. [00:19:20] Speaker C: I could say three year, 25,000,003 years. [00:19:24] Speaker A: 25 if I knew a little bit better, comparatively. What guys, I'd have to compare him to somebody. I think he should get paid. [00:19:34] Speaker C: I would say Jimmy G Money. [00:19:36] Speaker A: Jimmy? [00:19:36] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:19:36] Speaker A: I was going to say Jimmy G. I think at best, like Derek Carr money. [00:19:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I feel like Derek Carr money is a little too high. [00:19:44] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. At best. Because he's had good games. He's had two bad games, but there have been games where he's been genuinely good just outside of who he's playing around. But, yeah, I don't think you go much further. And it's funny to say Jimmy G money because he literally just took over for Jimmy Garoppolo. But, yeah, I think that's about the range that I would pay him. And again, I'm actually not sure what those guys get paid right now. [00:20:08] Speaker B: So Jamie Jean's contract, if I'm not wrong, isn't it he gets paid for this year. It's just 24 million. [00:20:14] Speaker A: 24 million this year alone. [00:20:15] Speaker C: Just this year. [00:20:16] Speaker B: I think just this year. [00:20:17] Speaker C: So I was doing the whole yeah. [00:20:20] Speaker A: I figured just because he's a quarterback. [00:20:22] Speaker B: Is a three year, $72 million. [00:20:24] Speaker C: Okay, so let me redo this, because looking thinking back at 25 million, I would say probably three year, 70,000,003 year, 75. [00:20:33] Speaker A: Around that range, three years, 25 felt a little low. [00:20:36] Speaker C: It did feel a little low, but I was trying to be kind of disrespectful on purpose just because of how bad he was. [00:20:40] Speaker A: I guess that's fair. [00:20:41] Speaker B: It was a pretty bad game from Brock Purdy. [00:20:44] Speaker C: But yeah, bynum looked good, though, for the Vikings. [00:20:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he's made some good plays here and there. He helped out with the CMC fumble, and he caught that game winning interception. [00:20:54] Speaker A: Right. [00:20:55] Speaker B: But I just want to go back to your point, especially about this defense, the 49 ers defense. You can see they are missing Demika Ryans 1000%. Yeah. [00:21:06] Speaker A: Hey, man, shout out Steve Wilkes, though. [00:21:07] Speaker B: I know I hate to say it. [00:21:09] Speaker C: Steve Wilkes has not looked great. [00:21:11] Speaker B: And that's what I was about to say. The things that he is calling for the 49 ers reminds me of Jonathan Gannon. It really does. [00:21:18] Speaker C: Ben, don't break. Exactly. [00:21:20] Speaker B: Very soft coverage. There's been barely any pass rush from this defense this year. Nick Bosa doesn't have a sack. Well, he does. He has two sacks in the year. [00:21:28] Speaker A: That'S even then, though, through seven games. [00:21:31] Speaker B: Exactly. And then Javon hargrave, he didn't get any sacks last night. [00:21:34] Speaker C: I forgot javon hargrave was on the 49 ers. [00:21:36] Speaker B: Exactly. And that's one of their big signings for this past offseason. Wow. It's weird when you watch the Niners play because they kind of play like an old school team. Their D line is just so upfield, leaving so many gaps for the run defense. And I don't know, it doesn't seem like the 49 ers defense that we're accustomed to seeing. And I think it starts with Steve Wilkes. And I know that you're the Panthers fan. [00:21:57] Speaker A: Yeah. A big narrative around Panthers football. When we were looking for a coach last season, a lot of people wanted Steve Wilkes to and, you know, I don't think I would have been upset if Steve Wilkes stayed with Carolina, but at the same time, I think I was more happy to have Frank Reich at head coach than I mean, call know, experience. Frank Reich is an offensive minded coach. And for me, I think it's more beneficial to have an offensive minded coach in this league right now. I just think they're more successful overall across the league. But again, a lot of people wanted Steve Wilkes to stay, and I wasn't as high on it, so it's, I guess, somewhat reassuring. Makes me feel a little bit better because people are even now still saying that we should have hired Steve Wilkes. And, yeah, I think it's one of those hindsight things know, things aren't exactly going great for the Panthers. Right. [00:22:54] Speaker B: It's easy. [00:22:55] Speaker A: It's easy to say like, oh, if we had hired Steve Wilkes, then we would be doing so much. You know, that's just not how it goes. [00:23:01] Speaker C: Yeah. And I can see why you should hire Steve Wilkes. But at the time I was kind of happy for Frank Reich and I thought that was a good decision because if we look know in recent NFL history, anytime there's a coach firing and the interim is in place, the team always does much better just because it's a new guy. It's the same locker room, but new guy, just different way of looking at things. [00:23:21] Speaker A: And even I think with Frank Reich passing the torch of play, calling off to Thomas Brown, I think that's going to be I hate know don't mean to turn this too much to Panthers football. They were on a by week in their own six. But I think that is a really good sign because I think Frank Reich is a really I think he's a really good leader. I think he is good at the head coach. I didn't exactly like him calling plays because I think he's still a little bit too traditional in terms of his play calls. I think him passing, asking the reins to Thomas Brown is a very good. [00:23:49] Speaker B: Sign for yeah, yeah. Your division. We don't have to talk about that. [00:23:53] Speaker A: But there's not one team we should talk about in the NFC South. And we could talk about the Falcons for bad reasons, but that's really it. [00:23:58] Speaker B: We definitely could talk about that. But I just feel like we could talk about just real quick, how about please, if fantasy owners oh, don't even get me started. [00:24:07] Speaker A: Don't even get me started. [00:24:08] Speaker B: Sorry to all the fantasy owners out there that just got absolutely just messed up because of oh, but anyway, now the NFL is looking into that. So hopefully that won't happen. [00:24:19] Speaker A: I was going to say I hope they find Arthur Smith for a million dollars. But his dad owns FedEx, so he could probably dude, literally his dad owns FedEx. His brother runs it right now. [00:24:29] Speaker C: So he could probably that's probably isn't that crazy? [00:24:30] Speaker B: He's fine. [00:24:31] Speaker A: Isn't that crazy though? That Arthur Smith's dad owns FedEx. [00:24:35] Speaker B: So you just got into football? [00:24:36] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, just a hobby. [00:24:37] Speaker C: He was like, yeah, I'll just try it. [00:24:39] Speaker A: Literally just a hobby. And now I remember he was interviewing on Pat McAfee and there's somebody in the background drinking a beer and said, oh yeah, it's my brother. And they figured out later on that that's the guy who literally is the CEO of FedEx right now. And they're like, wow, the CEO of FedEx is just in the background of Arthur Smith's. Pat McAfee. Zoom. Interview but that's pretty from so his. [00:25:01] Speaker B: Family deals with packages and he deals with calling football packages. [00:25:04] Speaker A: So that's pretty well done, Joan. [00:25:07] Speaker C: What a connection. [00:25:08] Speaker A: I know. He wanted so bad to get that one. [00:25:09] Speaker B: Out just a little bit. This is my prime opportunity. So let me ask you guys, we saw a lot of good games this weekend. I just want to ask you, what was the most impressive win of the week or one of the biggest loss? Like one of the more bigger, one of the more unexpected losses? [00:25:26] Speaker A: What did he just do, Connor? [00:25:27] Speaker C: He had a brain aneurysm. [00:25:29] Speaker A: Well done. [00:25:29] Speaker C: There we go. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Ever since you've done that, I've just been downhill. [00:25:34] Speaker C: So if I want to be like, I could look at different things. I could say biggest win, we could say Eagles because that could have been what? Game of the week? And the Eagles kind of just handled them with ease. But I kind of want to look back at a really bad loss. We could do the same thing with the 49 ers, but the Bills, wow. That Bills game was very eye opening for me. Just the whole AFC East in general, how weak it is and it's crazy to say how bad the Bills are. I could say the Bills probably will make it deep into the playoffs. [00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:26:07] Speaker C: But at the same time it's the Bills. Yeah. You can't expect much from them because one week they're going to be the greatest team you'll see in 20 years and the next game they're going to lose to a one of five Patriot. [00:26:17] Speaker A: Right? I don't know. Those games are always I think Bill Belichick's had the Bills number for decades and that plays a role in it. [00:26:26] Speaker C: But they're four and three now. [00:26:28] Speaker A: I know they're four and three. I'm just talking about this game specifically. But Bill Belichick has I think he gets underrated since Brady left but just. [00:26:38] Speaker B: Picked up his 300th win as a head coach. [00:26:41] Speaker A: Wow. And again, do you have to say that? And also he's constructed elite defenses for years and years and years without fail. Obviously, it's dropped off a little bit. Maybe even he still has had good defenses. No matter, you know, didn't the Patriots win a Super Bowl because the Rams dropped three or something like that? I think in that Super Bowl that was like that historic Rams offense when they were putting up unreal numbers all season with Jared Goff at quarterback. But he adopted an entirely new defense. He's adopted the this may be a little bit of a complex reference, but the Vic Fangio cover six, that was a somewhat new thing at the time and in two weeks before the Super Bowl transferred that to his team because he knew it would work against the Rams and he held him to three points. I mean, that's unreal and I think know, same mind still applies to this Bills game in that we know that offense is good, but he knows how to lock down teams, especially when they have obvious weak points. And that's what he did. And also I don't know. The Bills lost. Trey White. Matt Milano. I mean, those are for the season. Those are huge. They're probably the two best players on. [00:27:49] Speaker C: Their defense, but their offense was still terrible. [00:27:53] Speaker A: Right, and I know what you were. [00:27:55] Speaker C: Saying about the Bill Belichick and the defense and stuff like that, but if you're supposed to be a Super Bowl contending team, you should easily handle this team. [00:28:04] Speaker B: Who? [00:28:05] Speaker C: The patriots. Their offense has been poor this entire season so far. [00:28:10] Speaker A: Yeah, absolutely. [00:28:11] Speaker C: I know Mac Jones had a great week one against Eagles. [00:28:14] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:28:15] Speaker C: But other than that, he's probably been the 30th best Cuban the league. [00:28:19] Speaker A: Probably. He's simply not been good. [00:28:22] Speaker C: And he looked like a mini Tom Brady against the Bills. [00:28:28] Speaker B: That just speaks to, like Tanner just said, that just speaks to Bill Belichick's. [00:28:31] Speaker A: Greatness. [00:28:32] Speaker B: But speaking of, well, bad quarterback. You just said bad quarterback, but I'm going to bring up a good quarterback. How about the quarterback undrafted? Tyler? I can't say his last name, but the Chicago Bears quarterback badgent. Badgent. [00:28:45] Speaker A: Tyler badgent. [00:28:46] Speaker B: Tyler Badgent. I mean, I mean, what a game for the mean. [00:28:51] Speaker A: I'm not going to lie to you, man, it makes the Justin Fields narrative really funny. [00:28:55] Speaker C: It really does. [00:28:56] Speaker B: It brings a lot of questions funny. It brings a lot of things into mean. And also Deontay Foreman, I know we were just talking about fantasy a little bit. [00:29:05] Speaker A: So underrated. [00:29:08] Speaker C: He was as Derek Henry's backup in Tennessee. He was still good. [00:29:12] Speaker A: Yeah, dude, he was awesome for the pan. When the season that Christian McCaffrey got was, I can't remember how many games that was in. I think it was like four games. [00:29:21] Speaker B: In probably four six. [00:29:22] Speaker A: I think it was four to six games in where Christian McCaffrey got traded and Deontay Foreman still had a 1000 yard season. [00:29:29] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:29:29] Speaker A: After four games of Christian McCaffrey being the starter who every single game christian McCaffrey played for the Panthers. He played way too much football. He was on the field almost every snap. There's a reason he was so injury prone with us. But Deontay Foreman still got a thousand yards. Man, that is crazy impressive. And he's a great running back, man. I really think he is. [00:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah. And I just think that goes to show, like, just what a steal, what a steal of a game for the Bears. Like, no one kind of saw that coming, I feel like. But then again, it's the Raiders and we could keep talking about the Raiders issues, but I don't think we have enough time. [00:30:01] Speaker C: Didn't they have Brian Hoyer playing quarterback? [00:30:03] Speaker A: Yeah, they did. Exactly how old is Brian Hoyer? [00:30:06] Speaker B: But also, like, he's old. Devontae Adams, they used him for like the first four plays, I think, and then stopped going to him. [00:30:12] Speaker C: I just want Devontae Adams off that team. It's just a waste of a time. [00:30:14] Speaker A: Yeah, it just doesn't feel right, man. There's something weird. [00:30:17] Speaker B: You're right. [00:30:17] Speaker A: Something weird. I don't know what it is. [00:30:18] Speaker C: I mean, last year I get it. With Derek Carr, you have Hunter Renfro, who was a Pro Bowler two years ago or last year. I can't remember what year it was, but he's just not getting used at all. Josh Jacobs, who had arguably best contract. [00:30:33] Speaker B: Seasons all time yeah. [00:30:35] Speaker C: And can't really do anything this year. I don't know. That's just the O line or just not using them properly anymore. [00:30:42] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:30:42] Speaker B: I'm going to be really interested to see what they do in the draft because they could go in so many different directions. [00:30:46] Speaker C: Honestly, I don't want to see what they can do in the draft because they suck in the draft. They are terrible in the draft. [00:30:52] Speaker A: They have one of the worst records ever. [00:30:55] Speaker B: They have to tyree Wilson is not looking too hot. [00:30:59] Speaker C: I forgot he was in the league. [00:31:00] Speaker A: He's definitely I mean, he's a very raw prospect. [00:31:05] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:31:06] Speaker A: And Trayvon Walker trayvon Walker honestly had a solid start, but he has been somewhat disappointing in the past. [00:31:11] Speaker B: He's calmed down. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Yeah, he's calmed down. He had a really hot start. [00:31:14] Speaker C: He had really good two, three games and then just dropped. [00:31:17] Speaker A: And again, we knew Tyree Wilson was super raw, so I'm not expecting too much from him this season, but next two years, I would say he can become a very special player. [00:31:27] Speaker B: Yeah. And I 100% agree with you there. [00:31:30] Speaker A: That's dependent on the Raiders having a good coaching organization, which you cannot depend on. [00:31:34] Speaker C: I was going to say I was going to say, are you expecting him to leave the Raiders? [00:31:38] Speaker A: Yeah, because it's kind of necessary for the take I just made. [00:31:41] Speaker B: Mark Davis can own the Raiders like he does the Las Vegas Aces. The WNBA team, I think they have so much potential. [00:31:49] Speaker A: Shout out the aces, man. [00:31:51] Speaker B: Shout out to them back to back. [00:31:52] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:31:53] Speaker B: Also shout out to the New York Liberty, who just went, like, just in the lottery for the past couple of years, and now just all of a sudden, you draft like these generational superstars. So here you go. [00:32:02] Speaker A: Shout out Sabrina. [00:32:02] Speaker B: That's in the work, man. Yeah. [00:32:04] Speaker A: I love Sabrina. [00:32:04] Speaker B: UNESCO kobe's protege. [00:32:07] Speaker C: She's the one that went to yes. Yeah. [00:32:09] Speaker A: Baller, man, baller. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Just another shout out I just want to give before we move on, take our last break, and then we're going. [00:32:15] Speaker A: To get to what you want to talk yes. [00:32:17] Speaker B: I just want to give a shout out to the Ravens, who just absolutely beat down Lions. I know a lot of us we talked last week. [00:32:23] Speaker A: My AFC contender, by the way. [00:32:25] Speaker B: Yeah, you're right. [00:32:26] Speaker A: If we remember that, for the season. [00:32:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:29] Speaker C: The lions were injured, though. [00:32:31] Speaker B: They were. [00:32:32] Speaker C: So I know they were missing Montgomery and a couple 38 linemen 38 six. Oh. I'm not saying that they should have won the game. If they weren't helped, maybe they would. [00:32:40] Speaker A: Have made it tighter. [00:32:40] Speaker C: It wouldn't have been 38 to six. [00:32:42] Speaker A: Who are they missing on the O line? [00:32:44] Speaker C: I could have sworn I saw something. [00:32:48] Speaker B: While you double check, I also want to bring up the Steelers. I had the Rams kind of making a playoff hunt and then the Steelers kind of shocked me right here. I mean, first of all, the running back mean yeah, sorry to hear it is hard. I mean, they've just been banged up. [00:33:01] Speaker A: All actually, I have a decent amount to say about the Steelers at some point. Yeah, go ahead. Good call. A lot of people are saying that it is exclusively Matt Canada and that's just not true. I really just don't think it's true. Kenny Pickett has not been playing good easy. I think it's easier on the mind of a sports fan to put it on a coach or a coordinator because that's somebody who easily filters out those are somewhat I guess they're I don't want to say they're easier to find, but they seem easier to find in the context of football. But Kenny Pickett, man, don't get me wrong, matt Canada's designs are not great, but he does have good know. He steals plays from other teams like every other coordinator in the league does. But Kenny Pickett, he is not of a good processor. He does not read defense as well. Matt Canada, that being said, doesn't give him any are you running are you. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Running Matt Canada's burner account? [00:34:02] Speaker A: Unfortunately, I am not. [00:34:03] Speaker C: That would be I just came in came back because it was Jonah Jackson that was missing. [00:34:06] Speaker A: Jonah Jackson. [00:34:07] Speaker C: But I kind of zoned out for a SEC and then all I hear is Tanner just giving praise to Matt. [00:34:12] Speaker A: I'm not giving praise to Canada. [00:34:14] Speaker B: Real quick before we go back to tanner just finished his point. Just real quick. [00:34:17] Speaker A: Yeah. And again, so Matt Canada, he's called bad. Doesn't a big part of football now is pre snap motions to help quarterbacks read the defense. The Dolphins are unbelievable at it, for one example. But the Steelers do none of that. None of it. And it doesn't help because Kenny Pickett is not a very cerebral good. He's not a very cerebral quarterback at all. Right. You know, rookie quarterbacks, sophomore quarterbacks now never are. But he's giving him no help. But at the same time, Kenny Pickett is not reading defense as well. He's not been very accurate, which is concerning for a guy who that's pretty much the main reason. He has some escapability, but that's pretty much their main reason. [00:34:58] Speaker B: The reason he went around. [00:34:59] Speaker A: Exactly. I mean, this guy went pick 20 and he does not look like a first. I think that will go down as a historically bad quarterback class. [00:35:07] Speaker C: Oh, 1000%. [00:35:08] Speaker A: Because the defining members of it are Kenny Pickett and Desmond Ritter, malik Willis, the defining members of it. I think it's on both of them. But Kenny Pickett has not been playing good football, and the offensive line hasn't been mean, dude. It's not looking good for the steelers future on but their defense is good. Their defense is good. [00:35:28] Speaker C: And they've kept joey porter has looked good. [00:35:30] Speaker A: Joey porter's looked good. And that defense has kept him in games. Shout out mike tomlin one of the best to ever do it. But that offense, when the coordinator is bad, the offensive line is bad and the quarterback is bad, it is not an easy thing to throw up. [00:35:44] Speaker C: I just want to say alec bohm just homered it's one one. All right, continue. [00:35:50] Speaker B: Got a chance. [00:35:50] Speaker A: Get it back. The fightings here. The fighting. This is an incredibly unprofessional show. I just want to say I want to separate myself from these two. I'm a professional analyst. [00:36:01] Speaker B: We got the phillies playing. I can't help it. I can't help it. [00:36:04] Speaker C: Game seven. [00:36:05] Speaker B: Game seven. [00:36:06] Speaker C: Sorry, the braves aren't here. [00:36:08] Speaker A: Unprofessional journalism is what you're witnessing right now. [00:36:10] Speaker C: All right, tanner, go on. [00:36:11] Speaker A: That pretty much finishes my point, though, that it's compounded by a lot of things. It's not exclusively matt canada fans just want to do that because they don't want to say that it's the quarterback that they just drafted to take over for their franchise. Historically good quarterback, especially for one of. [00:36:24] Speaker B: The quarterbacks who was like 24, not 24, but like senior pretty. [00:36:30] Speaker A: Yeah, he was an old guy coming into the league and he is not good. [00:36:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it's a little concerning on that end. I know. Connor, you just made the point. I mean, tanner, you just said it, but connor made the point, like historically bad maybe will go down as the worst quarterback classes ever. [00:36:44] Speaker A: I mean, it's not looking good, right? [00:36:46] Speaker C: Mean, what's hilarious we were saying kenny pickett's not really great right now, but I love how his rookie season, everyone's praising him, how he came in, how great he was. We look back at Johnny Manziel's rookie season and they basically have identical stats. And so I just find it hilarious how they're praising kenny pickett. [00:37:08] Speaker A: It's because kenny pickett plays for the steelers and johnny manziel played for the browns. I think that is a huge part of it. [00:37:14] Speaker C: I think it is. It's part of the narrative. [00:37:15] Speaker A: Browns historically bad franchise. I mean, not like way back, but as long as we've known they've been bad, steelers are historically good. And I think that plays a big role in the outlook for these guys. [00:37:26] Speaker B: Yeah, but there's some time, like connor just mentioned, malik willis, he's got his chance maybe next week and we'll talk. [00:37:31] Speaker A: About drafted another quarterback. [00:37:33] Speaker B: I know one of them is going. [00:37:35] Speaker C: To have their mike brabel did say will levis and malik willis will see the field this week. [00:37:40] Speaker A: I don't know, man. [00:37:41] Speaker B: We'll see what happens there. We got a little bit more to talk about about on the tennessee titans and if they hit the rebuild switch. But we'll find out more. You are listening to the students section WVUA 90.7, the Capstone. [00:37:56] Speaker A: You. [00:38:18] Speaker B: And we are back with our last section of the student section, NFL. Connor, I know you're super excited for this part, so why don't you go ahead and break down the big trade that just happened for the Eagles. [00:38:30] Speaker A: So getting prompted to talk about the Phillies. The Eagles getting prompted to talk about the Eagles. You may be here for a while. [00:38:37] Speaker C: This is an NFL show, Tanner. [00:38:39] Speaker B: Why are you bringing up the Phillies? [00:38:40] Speaker A: Why would I possibly find a way to bring up okay, so sorry to. [00:38:44] Speaker C: Cut you off there, Tanner, but it's you know, the Eagles just provided a masterclass performance in the secondary and just the whole defense in general just with how they handled the unstoppable Dolphins offense. And yes, they had missing Toronto armstead. Jalen Waddle got hurt, but he came. So, you know, there was really one big weakness on this know, Reed Blake and Chip was hurt. Justin Evans is hurt. Sydney Brown just came back and we saw Tyree kill. There was a bracketed coverage and Terrell Edmonds was supposed to come over on Tyree Kill on that bomb and just got torqued. [00:39:16] Speaker B: Yeah, absolutely. It was a beautiful ball. [00:39:18] Speaker C: It was beautiful. [00:39:19] Speaker A: Such a good throw. [00:39:20] Speaker C: So you know what Howie Roseman does? He trades the guy that got burned. Terrell Edmonds in a fifth round pick and a 6th round pick for All Pro safety Kevin Byrd. Sorry, I had to write. [00:39:39] Speaker A: To the situation. [00:39:40] Speaker C: No, not like. [00:39:44] Speaker A: You got the horses wrong, dude. [00:39:45] Speaker B: That's okay. [00:39:46] Speaker C: The horn, we get a soundboard. I want a soundboard for that. [00:39:50] Speaker B: I can put it in post. Let me put it in post. [00:39:51] Speaker C: Yeah, post. [00:39:52] Speaker B: Okay, give me 5 seconds. I'm going to put it in right here. [00:39:55] Speaker A: Let's have like a second of silence. [00:39:56] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:39:59] Speaker A: We'Re good. [00:40:01] Speaker C: But I'm pretty sure I saw he leads interceptions since 2020, something like that. [00:40:08] Speaker B: Really? [00:40:08] Speaker C: I think so. That's crazy. I think that's what I saw, but. [00:40:11] Speaker B: I'll double check that. But keep going. [00:40:12] Speaker C: He's been amazing throughout his career. He's been with Tennessee. He was basically their backbone for the Tennessee defense right. The last five years. And just coming over him. Darius Slay james Bradbury. Ed reed Blankenship. It's going to be a very scary secondary. [00:40:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't know. [00:40:31] Speaker B: It was NFL. I think it might have been the Titans. Just maybe franchise. [00:40:34] Speaker C: Okay. [00:40:35] Speaker B: I don't know if it's he did lead the NFL for one year, but. [00:40:38] Speaker C: I don't think it was okay, maybe maybe you're right. [00:40:42] Speaker B: But I'll keep. [00:40:45] Speaker A: To I seem to remember you not being too excited about the signing of Kevin Byrd. Do you want to talk about that? [00:40:50] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:40:51] Speaker C: No, because I was very high on this because he was one of my favorite players to watch for the last. [00:40:55] Speaker A: Yeah, he was a beast for a had. He isn't having a great season to Jalen's, I guess. [00:41:01] Speaker B: But the only reason no one on that team is I mean, like, I'm not upset at the move. I actually like the move, like you guys. [00:41:07] Speaker C: Oh, you're not upset at it? [00:41:08] Speaker A: No, he was actually upset until Connor said, let's go. [00:41:11] Speaker B: Well, the reason just because I had another player in mind that I kind of wanted I kind of wanted not. [00:41:17] Speaker C: Sutton what's his name? The safety? [00:41:20] Speaker A: Simmons. [00:41:20] Speaker C: No, Simmons. Yeah. [00:41:21] Speaker B: Simmons. I was more interested in Justin Simmons. [00:41:24] Speaker A: You just want to disagree with me. [00:41:25] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:41:25] Speaker B: No, not you're wrong, but yeah, no, Justin Simmons. I just think he's a little bit younger, only by, like, a year or two. And he's just from Virginia, which, as you know, is my hometown. But I was just going to say, I think the system that the Broncos play, he would just be great in the Philadelphia Deshaun desire. [00:41:43] Speaker C: Well, the reason I like Kevin Byrd more is because he already has another year on this contract. [00:41:49] Speaker B: Okay. [00:41:49] Speaker C: The Titans already paid off basically all their salary, so he's a 2 million cap hit for this year. [00:41:54] Speaker B: Oh, wow. Okay. Wow. [00:41:56] Speaker C: Also, he's 30 years old, so yeah, he's a little bit older, but he plays in the box. He's a great tackler. He can play nickel. He can play any safety position. [00:42:08] Speaker B: From Philadelphia, too. [00:42:09] Speaker C: Yeah, he's from Philadelphia. I know you all seen the video of him getting the interception against the Dallas Cowboys and pulling the Tow star, right? So I think he just fits Philly because he's from Philly and he knows what he's going to walk into. [00:42:23] Speaker B: And I think this is great, the show. This is what Howie Roseman does. He doesn't always go for the big flashy player. He just goes for a very low key name. [00:42:32] Speaker C: He's not very low key, though. [00:42:34] Speaker B: He's on the scene now. But I'm just saying, I feel like before the AJ. Brown trade, you look at the Darius Slay. Like, Darius Slay wasn't the biggest quarterback names, but you know what I'm saying? He's not like a Jalen Ramsey. [00:42:47] Speaker C: He led the league and pick, what, two years before that or a year before that, so I'm pretty sure he was a pretty big name. [00:42:52] Speaker A: Kevin Byrd absolutely was like a top three safety for a decent amount of time. [00:42:57] Speaker B: Right. But I'm just saying, for the most casual fans, that's fair. [00:43:01] Speaker A: You can say a lot of guys are not big names to casual fans. [00:43:04] Speaker B: I mean, that's a fair point, but that's all I was trying to say. But, yeah, I'm happy that we made a trade. [00:43:10] Speaker A: I kind of want to put you on the spot here. [00:43:13] Speaker C: Pull the receipt. [00:43:14] Speaker A: Yeah, I was the first one to, I guess, see the Tweet, so I sent it in our little radio group chat. And then Jill and Brooks, he said he's been bad this season, for lack of better word. And then he said, am cry. I would like to hear what am cry means. [00:43:33] Speaker B: It's when you have water come out your eyes. [00:43:36] Speaker A: So you were crying is what you were saying when you traded for Kevin. [00:43:39] Speaker B: Byrd a little bit, because it wasn't Justin Simmons. I'm justifying. [00:43:42] Speaker A: So I want to introduce you to a concept called greed. Jalen, so you have a team that already has James Bradbury. It already has. Darius slay jr. It has the best defensive line in the league. You just beat the Dolphins pretty significantly, and then you were really upset because you didn't get, like, a top three safety in football, even though you got. [00:44:02] Speaker C: A top five safety in football. [00:44:04] Speaker B: I want more. [00:44:05] Speaker C: But what's crazy is so before, uh, I put on my phone on D D. So I was like, okay, I'm tired of these notifications, not thinking anything of it. And I swipe up because I think I got a message from my dad or something like, oh, look at this. I swipe up, and I see your text. Kevin Byrd to the eagles. I'm, like, losing my mind. I'm like, oh, my goodness, let's go. I send a text to the group chat, and I see Jalen like, wish we got Justin Simmons. [00:44:28] Speaker A: It's so sad. [00:44:29] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness. [00:44:31] Speaker B: Sorry. I was also upset at the Phillies game, but it's okay. We don't have to talk about it. [00:44:36] Speaker C: Sure, dude, this was before the Phillies game. This was 6 hours before the Phillies. [00:44:44] Speaker A: Digging deeper and deeper. [00:44:46] Speaker B: You caught me. All right. How far I would have gotten away if it weren't for you meddling kids. But I just want to you know, I'm just not too sold on. [00:44:57] Speaker C: What are we doing, Jalen? [00:45:00] Speaker B: I'm trying to justify my reason. [00:45:02] Speaker A: No, I put him on the spot. So now his opinion has officially changed. [00:45:07] Speaker B: Well, yeah, you guys have talked me into it, but I've done, like, a. [00:45:09] Speaker A: Little decision, and I've done a little bit more research. [00:45:13] Speaker B: I'm sorry. Because I'm sorry. That the Tennessee Titans what do you guys think of the Tennessee Titans? [00:45:21] Speaker C: They're all collectively bad. [00:45:23] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:45:24] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. So that's why I was ecstatic for it. But excuse me. [00:45:31] Speaker C: Wow. [00:45:32] Speaker A: So historically bad performance from Jalen in the past five minutes. [00:45:37] Speaker C: We just got to think of this as in the bigger picture. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Sorry, just one more quick. [00:45:42] Speaker C: Okay, go ahead. [00:45:42] Speaker B: I also wanted someone not on the age of 30, because I just know, because one of the reason I say this is because the Eagles, they're not known for their safety positions. They don't draft safeties that well. Last year was the first time in a while that they drafted a safety. [00:45:57] Speaker C: Some never needed one. [00:45:58] Speaker B: Exactly. [00:45:59] Speaker A: They don't need to be building for the future. This is a win now team. [00:46:02] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I get that. That's also what I'm trying to say. But I'm saying when you have options, like a younger option, like Jeremy Chen. [00:46:08] Speaker C: Jeremy Jin just got put on IR. [00:46:09] Speaker B: Dude, I'm saying before Jalen, before he got put on IR. I'm also saying, like, names. Like, maybe, like, a Chuck Clark or. [00:46:21] Speaker A: Maybe Chuck Clark aylin is getting dunked on by Connor right now. [00:46:27] Speaker B: Dude, I'm just saying. [00:46:28] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:46:29] Speaker C: A Chuck Clark. [00:46:30] Speaker B: I'm just saying. I just didn't think we were this is also before what I said this is also before we saw how much we sent over because I thought we definitely sent over a lot more than a fifth and a 6th round pick. That's to be fair. That's also because I also thought we gave up maybe, like, a third or potential second round pick to the Saints that we got this. [00:46:49] Speaker A: Janel has finally, finally found a good defense for this. [00:46:53] Speaker C: Okay. [00:46:53] Speaker A: After about four tries, he's found a good reason. [00:46:55] Speaker B: I'm just giving you all my rundowns of my thoughts. Well, way to put me on the. [00:46:59] Speaker C: I love how you said Chuck Clark. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Chuck Clark. [00:47:03] Speaker B: In my opinion, you could have traded the same amount before I knew you could get a trade of fifth and six for Kevin. [00:47:09] Speaker C: Byers. There you go. We know you're a little flustered right now. [00:47:13] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [00:47:14] Speaker B: But now I'm saying, if you could have just sent, like, a six or a seven for Chuck Clark, who's losing his job to Cal Hamilton well, before he's I mean, he's on the Browns now. I'm sorry. [00:47:24] Speaker A: We'll cut this out. [00:47:25] Speaker B: Anyway. Yeah. [00:47:27] Speaker C: So what I was going to say. [00:47:28] Speaker B: It'S a good move. [00:47:28] Speaker C: That's all I'm gonna oh, so now it's a good move. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah. No Justin Simmons, but it's a good move. [00:47:33] Speaker C: So when I first saw Jalen's text, I'm like, really? You can't be happy because we didn't get Justin Simmons. And I'm just sitting here thinking I. [00:47:41] Speaker A: Was upset because my team is owing six and this guy's complaining about not. [00:47:45] Speaker C: Having there I'm getting you know, we just put on a Masterclass. Like I said it again, a Master class. Tyree, kill Jalen Waddle, Chosen Anderson, stuff like that. [00:47:56] Speaker A: Right? Chosen Anderson. We're talking about Chosen Anderson right now? [00:48:00] Speaker C: Yes. We just held them to 80 yards. Like, Tyree Kill was their leading receiver for 80 yards, something. [00:48:07] Speaker A: Right. [00:48:08] Speaker C: And you go and get Kevin Byard, who I think is a great safety in this league, and you're over here complaining about it when you have Tanner on this by week, owen six. And he's just sitting here looking at you like you get Kevin Byrd and you're not happy speaking when you already have Darius Lay and James Bradbury in the secondary. [00:48:26] Speaker B: All everybody in our secondary who's like, our best players, they're all over 30. That's mostly what, do you want to. [00:48:33] Speaker C: Ring now or no? [00:48:34] Speaker B: I mean, I do don't twist my work. [00:48:39] Speaker C: We have Eli rick. [00:48:40] Speaker B: So we're good. I want to ring, but no, that's not what I'm saying. I'm just saying I also like to just look ahead and in terms of we're definitely win now. Great move, especially for what it took. [00:48:51] Speaker C: We can't be win now and look ahead. [00:48:54] Speaker B: Isn't that what we did? [00:48:55] Speaker C: Yeah, we got to choose. [00:48:56] Speaker A: Isn't that what we did? What do you mean? [00:48:58] Speaker B: The same season that we went nine and eight went for the playoffs. We didn't rebuild, we retooled. [00:49:03] Speaker A: Yeah, we were told there's a difference. [00:49:04] Speaker B: Right. [00:49:04] Speaker A: You were nine and eight, though. [00:49:05] Speaker B: Yeah. You're not seven and one, but the year before that. What were we the year before that? Now you guys got me. [00:49:13] Speaker C: So we were 14 and twelve, I think. Four and twelve. Four and twelve. [00:49:17] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. But they still made the playoffs the next year. [00:49:20] Speaker C: It was because of injuries. The whole line was injured. Whole line was injured. [00:49:24] Speaker B: But I'm saying also we started getting collecting picks, drafting young talent. That's how we flipped for AJ. Brown. But I'm just saying, we started taking all those young picks and building for the future, and then when we were ready to be healthy again, then we have the run that we're on now. All I'm saying is I'm afraid of a repeat of what we just went through when we get too old again and then we're not good anymore. [00:49:46] Speaker A: That's why I'm part of it, though. That's part of football, man, I get it. [00:49:49] Speaker B: But that's one of the reasons why I'm just like when there's younger talent out there that I think could potentially be moved, like the safety on the Cardinals. [00:49:56] Speaker C: Buddha Baker. [00:49:57] Speaker B: Not Buddha Baker because he's older, but Thompson, I didn't think he would be in a bad that's I'm just justifying my point, so it doesn't sound like I'm completely out of my mind, but that's all I meant by that. [00:50:10] Speaker A: But speaking of, I don't want to get off topic too fast, but speaking of Owen, six Panthers, I do think we're going to beat the Texans next week. [00:50:16] Speaker C: Really? [00:50:17] Speaker A: I genuinely do. [00:50:18] Speaker C: Wow. [00:50:19] Speaker A: I think this is the game where we finally get a win. The offense looked good against Miami, but we couldn't keep up defensively. But, yeah, I think this is where we get our first official that's my kind of a hot take. [00:50:32] Speaker C: Hot take? [00:50:32] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:50:34] Speaker B: Okay. Should we wager anything on this? [00:50:36] Speaker C: I don't really think there's anything to wager. [00:50:38] Speaker A: You want to bet live? I don't even know if it's legal in. [00:50:46] Speaker C: Jail. [00:50:48] Speaker A: I didn't mean to shoot you down that fast. [00:50:50] Speaker C: This segment for Jalen is just going downhill. [00:50:52] Speaker B: This is not airing. I won't let it. I'm just kidding. But obviously, just to wrap up, a lot of big moves, a lot of good games coming on this weekend, I like to say one more thing. I'm surprised that the Tennessee Titans didn't make a trade with the Eagles after what we saw with the AJ. Brown basically got that last GM fired. The trade that Howie Roseman did as soon as AJ. Brown had that game against the Titans, and I think he went for 100 plus yards on something like. Three touchdowns or something. They literally fired John Robinson right after the game. [00:51:21] Speaker A: Wow. [00:51:21] Speaker C: The higher another. [00:51:22] Speaker A: That's why they made another. Not the same. Not the same regime. [00:51:26] Speaker B: I guess it's not. And like you said, now we're going to find out what they have in Malik Willis, Will Levis, what happens to Derrick Henry? What happens to DeAndre Hopkins? I personally think DeAndre Hopkins is going to be a Chiefs. [00:51:35] Speaker A: That's my I think D Hopkins a chief. I don't think Derek Henry will be a Raven because it almost seems too fun for the NFL fell. But that's my I think I would love to see that's my prediction. It'll be awesome. [00:51:46] Speaker B: Well, with that being said, I think that concludes our show. Thank you guys all for listening. This is the student section, NFL on WVUA 94 70.

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