Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: Wvuafm Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Ladies and gentlemen, you are listening to the NFL Student section podcast. Wherever you may be and however you may be listening, we appreciate you being with us as we have come to the pinnacle of the NFL season. It's super bowl week. Eagles, Chiefs, what a matchup it's going to be. But it's been three weeks since we've been back on this air. It's been since before the divisional round of the NFL playoffs, since we last got in a room together. Myself is out. My name is Alex Brown. We have Connor Rouse, and we have Evan Cisneros with us today. And fellas, what the last couple weeks it's been of the NFL season.
[00:00:54] Speaker A: I don't want to toot my own horn, but I recall at the beginning of the season, I claimed one NFL team was going to be in the Super Bowl.
[00:01:02] Speaker C: Was that the Chiefs?
[00:01:03] Speaker A: It was not the Chiefs. It was the other team. Actually, it was the Philadelphia Eagles.
[00:01:07] Speaker C: Oh, right.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: I was right. But, you know. Evan, how are you doing?
[00:01:13] Speaker C: I'm doing good. I actually enjoy this matchup a lot more than the consensus of America would seem to enjoy the matchup. I foolishly had the Commanders winning that. I thought they were going to come in hot writing that big victory they already had.
They decidedly did not.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: So Eagles put 55. Double nickel, 55.
[00:01:37] Speaker C: Yeah, they put them in their place, I'll say. Little brother of the division, so. But that was a really fun week of football.
[00:01:44] Speaker B: It was. It was great football.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I will say I, I expected the. I didn't think it was going to be a blowout, but I expected the Eagles to come out with some fight because I do recall when the Eagles and Commanders played near the end of the season and when Jalen Hurts, you know, was knocked out of the game with a concussion. Kenny Pickett came in, then Jayna Daniels had that spectacular end of the game that ended up winning. That helped the Commanders win the game. But I like, I vividly recall after the game, all the Commanders players were like, you know, doing the Cooper De Jean or Eagles celebration. And, you know, they won the super bowl in the locker room, they beat the Eagles. They're celebrating, they're yelling around, they're doing everything like they just, like, conquered the world. And once that happened, I knew the Eagles would want to see them again because I know that's something that you're just not going to, you know, let happen again. And I wanted to see him in the wild card round because I knew what would happen and I to be completely Honest, I didn't expect them to, you know, go into Detroit and beat the Lions, the one seed like that.
[00:02:51] Speaker B: But that was a great game too.
[00:02:53] Speaker A: It was a great game. It was. The first half was super exciting. It was just score, score, score, score, score. But I was so happy to watch the Eagles beat up on the commanders and, you know, humble them a little bit because I think they got a little too.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: I just want to say, Connor, Evan, I believe he wants to say this too. Congratulations.
[00:03:11] Speaker A: Thank you.
[00:03:12] Speaker B: Congratulations on your team making it this far and deservingly so. I mean, since 2000, there's only been three teams that have had more playoff wins than any other team. Patriots number one. Then you got the Chiefs, then you got the Eagles and the Eagles stored. Success over the last two decades has been pretty impressive. Three Super Bowls now in the last seven years and looking for their second.
[00:03:39] Speaker A: Yes I am victory.
I would like to say I'm blessed as, as a fan of the Philadelphia Eagles because I know there was a lot of.
There was a lot of doubt coming out of last season just in general casting that doubt. Oh, oh no. I was 1,000% in, in the crowd saying fire Nick Sirianni, which, look at me, I look like an idiot right now because I mean, he's the only coach in Eagles franchise history to get a team to the super bowl twice.
So let's see if he can finish the job this time because I will say if we lose to the Chiefs again in the Super Bowl, I will not be in a good state of mind. I will say.
[00:04:21] Speaker B: You would really be that upset?
[00:04:22] Speaker A: Yes, I would be that upset. Because the last time they played Jalen Hurts. I don't think it's really hard to argue this, but he played better than Patrick Mahomes that game.
It was just a heartbreak way to lose. And I don't know, it's just something about seeing Patrick Mahomes go for a three peat. The Eagles are the first team he beat in a three peat and they would be the third team they would beat in three peat. And there's just something that's. I feel like it's something you can't really come back from. From like as in the Eagles, you know, it's, it's. It would be hard in my opinion.
[00:04:57] Speaker C: I stand by that. That was not holding that James Bradbury. That was a. That was a complete. What's the word?
I don't know. It was not. It was. Oh my gosh. I cannot get this word out. It was a disgrace. It was a bad way to end the game.
[00:05:15] Speaker A: So yes and no. By rule, it is holding and you can't like say that was the reason they lost. But I think if it's something like that, to determine a game in such a case with something so minute like that, there are times where you shouldn't really call it because plays like that happen the entire game and you don't call that, but you call it in the biggest moment of the whip route.
[00:05:38] Speaker C: In which he slipped.
[00:05:40] Speaker A: Yeah. So next time there won't be a next time because Bradbury is not going to see the field but just wear white gloves.
[00:05:50] Speaker B: It's not a bad idea. It's not a bad idea. Get every advantage you can. Right? Every advantage you can. And now when this upcoming game, Eagles designated as the home team, get to wear the midnight green jerseys.
[00:06:02] Speaker A: I'm excited about that.
[00:06:04] Speaker B: That's going to be nice.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: It is going to be nice.
[00:06:06] Speaker B: And I would say this, I think this is going to be one of the best super bowl matchups we've had in a while. And I think the last time these two teams played in 2023 was a great game.
[00:06:16] Speaker A: It was probably one of the best Super Bowls we've.
[00:06:17] Speaker B: One of the best ones we've had in a while, too. I think this one will top that. Not only because of the significance of this super bowl compared to the last one. We talk about Mahomes, we talk about the Chiefs trying to get three in a row and they're second against the Eagles in that stretch.
And we also talk about the Chiefs being one of the greatest dynasties now of all time. But the Eagles making their way back after the tribulations of last year. We have Big Dom in the news last year, Sirianni and Hertz, the relationship fractured. They have to change their coordinators. There is a lot at stake in this game, I think, for both teams, especially with Barkley in the season he's had. You want to cap that off with the championship and we'll see if they are able to do that.
But it's going to be interesting. But first, let's talk about before we get into the weeds of the super bowl, some of the Knicks and necks, the notes of those of the big game. That's. Let's talk about some of the news that's happened in the NFL in the last three weeks, especially when it comes to trades, because there have been a couple rumors coming about and so a couple of requests as well.
[00:07:19] Speaker A: It's not only the NBA trade deadline, but the NFL is ramping up too. And we Saw that with I guess the Rams now shopping Cooper cup. They posted a goodbye.
[00:07:33] Speaker B: He stole the team.
[00:07:34] Speaker C: You know how he found out from the what it looks like on his socials. I wouldn't assume that's how he found out but I'm sure that's such a shock to just be let known that they don't want you anymore. How horrible is that?
[00:07:49] Speaker A: Yeah, I mean it's, it's. I'm not going to, you know, speculate on how he found out, but I think it's just crazy. You know, Cooper cup has been amazing for this franchise for such a long time and it was kind of sad to see like his role diminished. But I mean he's getting up there with age, he's had a few injuries. So it's just crazy to you know, find out by at least as the fans find out by a thank you Cooper cup post by the Rams and saying they're going to shop him. But yeah, I don't know where. Do you. Do you have any ideas where he might go?
[00:08:23] Speaker C: I'm honestly not sure.
[00:08:25] Speaker B: I thought he would go to use him. I thought he might go.
[00:08:28] Speaker C: Well, I want Tyreek gone.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: He's going to be. He's probably going to be on your team.
[00:08:33] Speaker C: Tyreek? Yeah, get him, get him out.
[00:08:35] Speaker B: I think he's probably gonna. McDaniel like he sweet talked him. It's like please stay, please.
[00:08:40] Speaker C: We don't need him here.
[00:08:42] Speaker B: He'll still be there. I tell you what, I wouldn't mind the Steelers taking Cooper Cup. I thought we would get him during the season because there are rumors that he was being shocked when the Rams didn't have as good of a record as they ended up having and they ended up winning the division, making the playoffs. I would say that he's probably going to go to a team that. Because Cooper cup is not number one anymore. No, he's aged out of that. I think his decline has been pretty steep since he had that great season back in 2022. He's had a pretty. Injuries have derailed him as well as well. And Matthew Stafford's probably prolonged his career and gained him a lot, earned him a lot more money, especially when he comes to be traded now.
But it's going to be interesting to see where he ends up and Miles Garrett wants out now of Cleveland. That's going to be a big draw and it's going to demand a big return as well depending on where he ends up going. And the Browns are going to trade him in the afc I would bet. Unless he's going to be going to like the Raiders or somewhere like that.
[00:09:39] Speaker A: You said trade him in the nfc.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: Afc, afc. I don't know if they'll trade him in the AFC because they're not going to want to see him. Yeah, want to see him.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: I only thing I'll bring. Let me put up my. My wind horse fingers.
The Eagles and the Browns had a joint practice two years ago.
[00:09:58] Speaker B: He's not going to the Eagles.
[00:09:59] Speaker A: And Miles Garrett said more beef on that line. Miles Garrett said he would love to play for a team like the Philadelphia Eagles and play in this city like them.
[00:10:09] Speaker C: He also said like them, his main goal is a Super bowl and who's in the super bowl right now.
[00:10:16] Speaker B: Boy, they're going to give up for him. You have to give up Jalen Carter. You'd have to give up arm and a leg.
[00:10:22] Speaker A: Oh, I got the. I got the quote wrong.
Everybody would love to play for Philly down the line. You never know. Maybe I'll play for Philly. Can't rule anything out.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Everybody would love to play for Philly.
[00:10:35] Speaker A: Would you want a ring?
[00:10:36] Speaker B: I want a ring. But they haven't had one in seven years.
[00:10:40] Speaker A: Yes, you got to get one.
[00:10:41] Speaker C: There's only about three or four teams who have.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: That is true. With the. With the Chiefs staying up there at the top.
I can only say so much as a Steelers fan. I'm glad Miles Garrett's going to be out of the division. I'm glad he's out of the division.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: You said he's going to be out of the division.
[00:10:56] Speaker B: I think. Why would he stay? Why would they trade him in the division?
[00:10:59] Speaker A: Lamar just posted something of him in a Ravens uniform. Are they going to get it done? No, it's not going to happen. I think it's impossible, to be completely honest with you. I don't. It's going to be almost close to impossible for the Eagles to land him because, you know, I mean, the asking price is too much. But then again, it's Howie Roseman. You never know. But I think the most likely scenario in my opinion would be either Washington because they have the capital.
[00:11:21] Speaker B: That's a great idea.
[00:11:22] Speaker A: And they have the money for it. Or then also a team like the Bills or something like that that would.
[00:11:28] Speaker B: They need to make a big splash.
[00:11:31] Speaker A: Both those teams need a kind of like a edge, just edge threat because they didn't have any of that last year. So especially when Von Miller's agent out. And so I think a team like that, like those few teams, those teams are Going to ones that are going to try to make the biggest push for it. And I mean, I don't know about y'all, but I think there's a real chance he actually does end up getting moved because I know they came out and said that they're staying pat and they're not going to move on for Miles Garrett, but it's going to get to a point where there's no reason to keep him if he's not going to suit up ever again for you.
[00:12:03] Speaker B: Exactly, exactly. He's from Texas, putting it out there. Maybe go to a Texas team. Houston, Dallas.
He has an affinity for Dallas.
He's a Dallas fan growing up.
[00:12:16] Speaker A: But you have to remember, you got.
[00:12:18] Speaker B: To think about the return. You have Micah Parsons as well.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: No, no, no. Jerry Jones is their gm.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:12:24] Speaker A: So let's be honest, you'd have to.
[00:12:26] Speaker B: Be a heck of a haul to get Miles Garrett anywhere. Think of the first round picks. But here's the thing. My belief is if you're, if you're a contending team, you're a good team. First round picks don't really mean as much because at this point in it's a lot more of a bargaining chip than it is restocking. I think first round picks, if you're a perennial contender and you look at the teams that are picking last in the NFL draft, last in the first round, I should say like the Eagles most of the time. And then you have the Chiefs, the Bills, those picks really don't they.
[00:13:03] Speaker C: I would consider.
Look at what the Chiefs have done with those picks picks. Reed, Humphrey, all pro.
[00:13:09] Speaker B: Well, it depends what you, it depends what you do with those picks. Depends who you draft. But at the same time, I don't think those mean nearly as much as they do. If you're a top team, they, I.
[00:13:17] Speaker A: Mean if you're definitely don't picking top, they definitely don't. But I mean still, I would consider a day one and day two pick insanely valuable. So even though, yes, it would probably be a later first round pick, I mean look at the talent you can still get. I mean guys like T. Higgins, Cooper, DeJean, Landon, Dickerson, all those kind of guys all went, I mean, middle to late or early day two. And so you can get a Lamar at 32. So I feel like first round pick is a first round pick.
[00:13:48] Speaker B: So I think training for Miles Garrett, I'm not really thinking about what I'm giving up and what that guy, that player that I am foregoing by trading my first round pick.
[00:13:58] Speaker A: Oh no, I completely agree.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: Five years.
[00:14:00] Speaker A: Oh no, I completely. I completely agree. I was just saying I think a day one pick is still a. Oh absolutely. No matter what, a day one pick is amazing.
[00:14:07] Speaker B: Top a top tier talent and Miles Garrett is going to command one, maybe two first round picks. Could be even more than that. I would ask the Steelers to start shopping TJ Watt and see what kind of return they they would get. They should done that last year and they didn't and I they probably won't even do that this year. But, but the Browns, they're thinking they Andrew Barry, their GM said he didn't want to trade Miles Garrett at the beginning of this off season. We'll see if he's going to do that now after Garrett asks for it.
[00:14:39] Speaker A: Yeah, I think he will. I mean I guess apparently this you know the trade request was put in like a while ago but Myles Garrett finally chose out to come and make it public just because they weren't getting any movement with the Browns front office on just trying to bargain and actually end up looking for a trade. So I'm interested to see what the offseason looks like because it will be a very fun and very interesting one.
[00:15:11] Speaker B: Well before that we have the super bowl coming up this weekend. When we come back we'll be diving in to some of the news and notes surrounding the Super Bowl.
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And we are back on the NFL Student Section podcast previewing this year's super bowl matchup. A rematch of 2023 when the Kansas City Chiefs defeated the Philadelphia Eagles 38 to 35 on February 12th of 2023 at State Farm Stadium in Glendale, Arizona. And that game, both offenses combined it for over 750 yards and what was an entertaining super bowl to the very end. Patrick Mahomes at three touchdowns, 182 yards and was named the Games NVP their first of their now three trips to the super bowl in a row and now this represents their fifth in six seasons. Now do we consider the Chiefs now to be one of the greatest dynasties of all time or they have to win this game to become even another level?
[00:16:54] Speaker A: I think they would have to win this game or I mean they're already on like an all time level just about how dominant they have been. But I mean when you think about a Pittsburgh Steeler or you Think about a, you know, Patriots or anything like that. They are, they have, they have what, six plus super bowl rings or even Dallas, stuff like that. They have that rings. They have the rings. But the Chiefs have what, three as of right now? Something like that. And so I feel like the way to get on that level, you either have to win more, which I mean they're gonna do, or be the first team to three peat to be regarded and be regarded on that level of the top dynasty ever.
[00:17:34] Speaker C: I would, oh gosh, I would start to put them up there because since 2018 we've seen them either in the conference championship or the super bowl, if I'm not mistaken. And most, most dynasties are about four or five years. They'll win two, have a break year and then win one, which is what the Chiefs have already done. And now they're contending for a three peat to make it four in the dynasty era.
That hasn't been seen in at least a long time. So they're, I wouldn't say they're contending with the Patriots, but contending with the eagles of the 80s and 90s and then the Steelers. I think they're definitely top five dynasties all time.
[00:18:17] Speaker A: You consider the Eagles a dynasty?
[00:18:19] Speaker C: Did I say Eagles? I meant Cowboys.
[00:18:21] Speaker A: Sorry, we have one ring.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: It's definitely a conversation. The Patriots had that longevity under Brady, starting with Bledsoe, and then you go for about another 15 years of dominance in the AFC. And now the Chiefs, they've been dominant last seven years, really since Mahomes got the starting job about his second year, they've really been dominant. And it's, it's incredible how even with a, let's call it a lackluster offense for the Chiefs that they've had this year. I mean, it's been close games. Most of them are within one score. They've played in 12 one score games and including their dramatic win over the Bills that they had two weeks ago. So it's, it's not been a great season for the Chiefs in terms of they're blowing teams out, but they're winning games and that's what counts at the end of the day.
[00:19:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I feel like this is, I mean, since I, since Tyreek got traded, this has been their M.O. this entire time.
I mean, last year they don't look great offensively and defensively until Chris James, Chris Jones came back and I mean it got to the playoffs and they just looked dominant and they looked, I mean, they've just won everything. It didn't matter what happened through the first three quarters, they, they found a way to come back and pull it out at the end. And I mean, I just, it's, it's honestly insane how much they, you know, they could lose. Tyree Kill Chris Jones could be like, I want a new contract. He won't play for the first four weeks, five weeks. Travis Kelce looks like he is on his verge of, you know, retirement and being washed and none of that matters when it comes to the postseason. It's like they all just revert back to their prime. Everybody, everybody's back in their prime somehow. So I don't know. I, I think if they win this game, they will be on that level of the Patriots and they, I think they'll jump over the Cowboys and stuff like that for sure.
[00:20:30] Speaker C: It'll put them in that top echelon with I think, only other the page. Only the only other team being the Patriots.
[00:20:38] Speaker B: Yeah, deservingly so. And Andy Reid is going to go down as one of the greatest coaches probably ever by the time he retires, whenever that might be. And whoever's been around this Chiefs organization, really, whoever they've put in there, is really gelled. It's fit, it's worked. And to see them again three years in a row, three beat would be the first time ever in the super bowl era.
At some point though, it makes me want to see history. Even though I don't like the Chiefs. I don't know, I don't want the Chiefs to win. I respect the history of it and I want to see maybe history be made.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: I don't. Not this year.
[00:21:22] Speaker B: I understand that from your perspective. What do you think?
[00:21:24] Speaker C: I don't want to see it. I don't like the Chiefs, but I've watched this movie before. I've. We've had all these discussions. Chiefs aren't good. Chiefs are on a down year and they just keep on winning. I think we all picked the Ravens against the Chiefs. What were we doing? It's the Chiefs. Come on. Now with that said, I'll keep that in mind for our picks later. But the Chiefs, I think we need to start having a discussion about the Chief's culture, which I don't see it talked about that much, but it is incredible. It's. It goes back to. Not it goes back to, but it can be related to Heat culture where you get old veteran players, just people who should want a bigger role and they just fit in. They just mesh in juju. Smith Schuster was not a great phenomenal player, but he was a big name player. Who once he got to the Chiefs, you didn't hear much from him. He just worked locked in and he's been great. I mean, you don't hear his name as much, you don't see what he does as much, but he contributes to their success, which is all they need and it's that culture that they've built which contributes to their success.
[00:22:34] Speaker A: So if you are relating this back to heat culture, hey, when is.
[00:22:37] Speaker B: Where's the championship?
[00:22:38] Speaker A: No, no, no, when?
[00:22:40] Speaker B: Don't give me where's the champion? In the lab. Where's that? In the last 12 years.
[00:22:45] Speaker C: In the last 12 years we have none.
[00:22:50] Speaker A: My only thing I have to say about this, can you let me know when Patrick Mahomes is going to sit out without pay and request his way out?
[00:22:57] Speaker C: Because I. Jimmy is not Heat culture. Get Jimmy out of here. We're not. We don't got to bring the heat up too much from what you.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: First of all, you brought up the heat.
[00:23:05] Speaker B: Right, right.
[00:23:05] Speaker A: Second of all, I remember, look at.
[00:23:07] Speaker C: The, look at the runs that we've had and the players that have been on those runs. Anytime they go somewhere else, nobody's Kendrick Nunn, Gabe Vincent, he's been Max Truce is the one name. But what I was bringing up, LeBron was already LeBron. I was mainly bringing up the heat of 2012, 2013, 2014. Chris Bosh was probably a top 10, top 15 player and he knew he was going to come in and be the third best, the third option. And then all these kind of no name rookies that you'll get. The Chiefs can plug in anyone who you probably haven't ever heard of. And that goes to their scouting and the inside. They got rated as one of the worst facilities I think a year ago. But what they do with those facilities is crazy because all their players are great and they all know exactly what they're doing all the time.
[00:24:02] Speaker B: It is, it's a tough place to play. Down in Arrowhead, having that home field advantage has certainly been key, but they've had relatively the same core group and obviously you plug players in here and there. They've really had relatively the same coaching staff over the last seven years, where they've had seven straight AFC championship games, five Super Bowls, and it comes back to that core group and it's tight and it's worked for them. Now on the other side of this game, the Philadelphia Eagles.
Last seven years, they've had a lot of different changes going on, but yet the success remains, whether it be in the regular season, but Also moving into the playoffs. Their third super bowl in seven years and their second with coach Sirianni and their second with their quarterback, Jalen Hurts. Connor, your thoughts on overall, the encompass, the encompassing of this season and where it's been the last four years now under Sirianni?
[00:25:01] Speaker A: It's kind of, it's been, I guess, a whirlwind, I would say, because, you know, Sirianni comes in, we start off, it was not a good record. It was like 4, 8, 4, 9 and you know, you go on and beat a streak of bad teams, make the playoffs. In his first season, 10 wins. Yes, 10 wins, loses, loss to the Bucs and Tom Brady pretty badly. But I mean, after that second year, you make the super bowl, you have, I mean, an incredible run. Super bowl, you played one heck of a game.
Third year I. It was a rough year. You know, that, that final stretch of games really, it really, you know, hurt me just to see the, you know, the guys who came back for one final run, like Fletcher Cox, Jason Kelsey and all those guys and have it end the way it did. It was. It stung pretty bad and you know, I didn't, I watched a playoff game, but I, I mean, going into that week, I knew we were going to get blown out just because, you know, no A.J. brown and no nothing like, and anything like that. But, you know, this offseason I had a lot of hope. We got Kellen Moore, we fired Brian Johnson, and looking at it now, Kellen Moore is most likely going to be moving on to a new head coaching job. Surprise. Jalen Hurts is going to need a new offensive coordinator, but hired Vic Vangio. You know, thank you, Evan. You're welcome. You know, once we signed Saquon Barkley, I really thought things would change. So I'm, I'm excited about it.
I, I didn't think we would be. We would go on the stretch we had from one week five bye week to what we ended up having, you.
[00:26:44] Speaker C: Know, was the only loss to the commanders in that stretch.
[00:26:47] Speaker A: Yes.
[00:26:47] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:26:48] Speaker A: That was the only loss during the stretch. I mean, we started two and two. Everybody was like calling for Sirianni because the team just looked bad. And then especially after that Buccaneers game when you didn't have Devontae Smith or A.J. brown and the defense looked terrible, the offense looked bad. Even though you didn't have your two starting wide receivers.
Week 5 Bye week, didn't think it was a good time, but thank goodness it happened because since then, I mean, they had it click and they inserted Cooper DeJean and the two rookie DBs that stepped in for this year, they really brought this defense to a whole nother level because I mean last year that past defense was horrible. I mean, if I'm not mistaken, it was like the 28th ranked pass defense in the league. And going from the 28th to adding those guys, Vic Vangio and making it the number one past team is in the league was incredible. Zach Bond, I mean, I don't know how to phrase it, but what a year. Like, what an unexpected turn of events to have a special teams player coming in transformed into a defensive player of the year finalist and all pro linebacker. So it was super exciting to see this, like I guess the highs and lows of the season. And so I'm excited that there's a chance to finish it with the Super Bowl.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Yeah, they were fifth worst last year.
[00:28:15] Speaker A: It was not good.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: And it's. I really am excited about this matchup for the reasons you just said there about the story of the Eagles and about the historic nature of the Chiefs in the last. You can trace both of these teams back about seven years. About seven years is when both of these teams, their stories began, if you will, with Foles taking over for Carson Wentz in that playoffs where it was just crazy. It was a crazy playoffs where you had Case Keenum, Blake Bortles. Blake Bortles and Tom Brady, I think were the quarterbacks in that final championship weekend of the NFL season. Bortles had just come off just blowing out the Steelers defense that year. We made it close at the end of that game, but I think he put 45 on the Steelers was one of the worst losses of the Tomlin era in the playoffs.
But these stories culminate in this game, in this game this weekend. And I can't wait to see that play out.
[00:29:20] Speaker A: What's a really cool story to look at is, I mean the Eagles have made the Super Bowl. This will be what, the fifth time? I'm pretty sure. And you know, going back to 2000, I think it was 26 or 7. Something around that. It was Eagles, Patriots.
[00:29:36] Speaker C: I think that was 2004.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: 2004. I can't remember what year it was. I know it was around that timeline, but Eagles, Patriots in Jacksonville and the Patriots ended up beating the Eagles, you know, injured to.
Yeah, I don't know how he played that game, but I guess it didn't really matter at the end. But you know, then the Eagles play the patriots again in 2017 or what a game that was technically 2018. But yeah, what A game, you know, Nick Foles and the Eagles got the best of the Patriots. The Eagles face the Chiefs in, what, 2022. They lose that game. It was a great game. What a battle. But in 2025, now it's Eagles versus Chiefs again. I mean, I mean, I guess if.
[00:30:23] Speaker C: The pattern stands, if the pattern got.
[00:30:25] Speaker A: To get your revenge.
[00:30:28] Speaker C: This reminds me of.
I just pulled up a picture of it and showed the group, but Darth Vader, the red lightsaber, Kansas City Chiefs, the Empire. And in the final battle, we had Luke Skywalker with the green lightsaber, the Eagles. And hopefully maybe they can finally take down the Empire.
[00:30:47] Speaker B: And we will see. And when we come back from our next break, we're going to be talking about some of the NFL prop bets. And we'll also be giving you our predictions for the Eagles and the Chiefs.
[00:31:10] Speaker C: I'm a pretty great multitasker. I can wash dishes and do laundry. I can roller skate while walking my dog.
[00:31:18] Speaker B: I can even order lunch while doing my homework.
[00:31:20] Speaker C: But I can't use my phone while driving. A distracted driver is one of the leading causes of death in the United States.
[00:31:27] Speaker B: So when it comes to driving, please don't be a multitasker. Don't drive distracted. A message brought to you by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, Project Yellow Light, and the AD Council.
And we are back in our final segment of the NFL Student section podcast, our preview of the Super Bowl. And for this one, we're going to do our predictions, give us a couple of prop bets that we're going to make our picks on as well as we get into the fun stuff of this week. And there's so many different things that people can bet on now at the Super Bowl. One of them is now, is Nick Sirianni going to cry during the national anthem?
Chris Jones, too.
And I tell you what, the money's pretty good. The money's pretty good. The line's pretty close, but it's still positive money.
[00:32:34] Speaker A: I don't know if Nick Sierra is going to cry during the national anthem, but he is going to be. He's going to do something stupid.
[00:32:40] Speaker B: Some.
[00:32:40] Speaker A: I don't want to say stupid, but he's. I think he'll be caught on camera. Yeah, no, he's going to have a lose this game.
[00:32:48] Speaker B: Why?
[00:32:49] Speaker A: Uh, dumb mental mistakes. And the offense, in my opinion, I think that would be the. The key thing. And I don't think it's going to be because of turnovers or anything like that. I just. Part of me is a little worried that if the, if the passing game can't get into a rhythm early, then it's going to be hard to find the rhythm in the, like, just throughout the entire game. Because Jalen Hurts has the capability to be an elite passer. I mean, you saw it on the biggest stage a few years ago against the Chiefs in the Super Bow when he had 304 yards passing. But I just, I mean, you look at the, the playoff games we have seen so far, the Commander's game where, you know, Kellen Moore got into a really good rhythm with the short, you know, on timing routes and that had. That boosted him to be, basically be a threat as a passer the entire game. And he never really lost track of that. But I mean, before that he never really got into that kind of rhythm and the offense just seemed kind of clunky. So I want to see the offense look smooth and I know Spagnol is a great, really great defensive coordinator and I know they're going to build up pressure. So I don't want to see Jalen Hurts hold the ball too long and take unnecessary sacks.
[00:34:03] Speaker C: I would agree with that. I say if the Eagles win, lose this game, it's because the Chiefs don't make mistakes and they just keep pressure. They keep everything in front of them. Hold Saquon to frustrating four or five yard runs every time and just get constant pressure and put Jalen Hurts, make him, make him get it out and make decisions quickly.
[00:34:28] Speaker B: I think if the Eagles are to win this game, I do think it's going to come down to probably turnovers. I think if you're going to beat the Chiefs, you got to be at least plus 2 in the turnover differential department because they have so many different ways that they can win these games that you really have to have a lot of things go right for you in order to win. I would say, conversely, I would say if the Chiefs win this game, it's because that they controlled possession, they had, they had limited turnovers, and that Mahomes probably gets two to three touchdowns.
[00:35:01] Speaker A: I think the. So I said the way the Chiefs win this game, but I think the way the Eagles win this game is time of possession, keep Patrick Mahomes off the ground, off the field for as long as you possibly can, and try to force turnovers. I know the Chiefs, I think, have turned the ball over once this year and that's like, you know, like, don't get me wrong, that's insanely impressive. But don't look away from the fact that the Eagles are The first team, I think in NFL history saw to go into the super bowl without committing a turnover in the entire, I guess, playoffs or whatever there. They've forced, I think, 10 turnovers in the playoffs and have committed zero. So I think one thing the Eagles are going to have to try to do is just be there. Get pressure inside the. Inside the interior offensive line and force, you know, Patrick Holmes, stay inside the pocket like they did Jaden Daniels, like they did Jordan Love and make him make insane plays and tackle. I mean, he will make some insane.
[00:36:10] Speaker C: Plays, but I hope they tackle him whenever he's running on that scramble. Tackle him.
[00:36:15] Speaker A: Because you say that and then you tackle him and there's going to be.
[00:36:18] Speaker C: Three flags on the ground, which is so frustrating. But I have.
[00:36:22] Speaker B: Alex, I made a mistake. I made a mistake.
I accidentally pressed the store on the break and then I realized that I did not unpress it when we got back. So we're gonna have to restart.
[00:36:33] Speaker A: That's fine.
[00:36:34] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:36:35] Speaker B: But just that segment.
So do.
And we are back at our final segment of our show this evening. And there's so many different things to talk about when you get to the super bowl. In terms of different things, you can bet on different things that can get you even more involved in the game. We're going to get to a couple of those here in a few minutes. But the prop bet business now is incredible. Squares the things that people get interested in, whether it be you be a casual fan or you're a die hard fan. The amount of different things that you can put money on now for super bowl is incredible. And now you get. It gets down to the Gatorade color, it gets down to the anthem singers, it gets down to crying during the national anthem, whether it be Sirianni, Chris Jones, Sirianni, like it did two years ago, which was a beautiful anthem by the way, by Chris Stapleton. So I don't blame him for crying, especially in that moment. But now that they're back, so many different things at play.
Connor. If the Chiefs were to win this game, the Eagles to lose, why do the Eagles lose?
[00:38:01] Speaker A: Turnovers 1. But then also just dumb mistakes, not getting in, having the offense seem kind of clunky, and Jalen hurts taking sacks. When you look back at the, you know, the Eagles games this playoff so far, you look back at the first two games and I mean, you could say, hey, the snow played a huge factor because it did. But against the packers, the Jalen hurts never really got in a true rhythm in the beginning of the game. And, you know, throughout the rest of the game, you could tell he wasn't really as sharp as he needed to be. And that could also be due to the play calling and just players not getting open. And, you know, Green Bay just playing great defense. But looking at the commander's game, you know, Kellen Moore got into his bag when it came to play calling and Jalen Hurts was able to set, go and then, you know, on rhythm, get the ball out quick, not take any of those long four sacks. And I mean, they put up 55 points. So I think that's going to play a huge factor. And, you know, since the Eagles are the only, I think the only team in NFL history to go into the super bowl without committing a turnover in the first two, three games of the postseason, that's going to be a huge factor to make sure you protect the ball.
[00:39:10] Speaker C: I think if the Chiefs were to win this game, it's because of what they always do. They control the time of possession, they hold the ball, they force quick possessions on the defense, obviously keeping everything in front of them. Give up short runs, 4 to 5 yards, you can live with that.
A lot of pressure in the backfield. Remember quarterbacks trying to throw the ball. We saw that last year with the 49ers. As soon as they were catching the ball, they were already getting popped. And that gets very frustrating as an offense because at that point you're trying to make up time and the Chiefs just have control of it. So if they win the game, that's.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: Probably why I think the Eagles, if the Eagles win this game, I think it's because they have. They control the turnover differential. I think they have to be plus two because the Chiefs have so many different ways that they can beat you. So many different ways. And when it comes down to the last drive, you know how it's probably going to go. And I think if the Chiefs win, I do think it'll be a one score game and they're going to control the possession like you said, and it's going to be a dogfight to the end. If the Chiefs win this game, I think if the Eagles win, I think it's by a considerable amount. I think if the Eagles win this game, it's by at least a touchdown.
[00:40:32] Speaker A: I think for the Eagles to win, just control the clock like they have done the entire season.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: They can do that with a running game.
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Yeah. I mean, I'm going to get into why I think the Eagles are going to perform the way I think.
[00:40:45] Speaker B: Let's get right into that who's your pick?
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Oh, I think the Eagles are going to win by double digits.
[00:40:49] Speaker B: Double digits.
[00:40:50] Speaker A: By double digits.
[00:40:51] Speaker B: Whoa. You give me a score.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: I'm going to go 31 to.
I'm going to go 20, 31 to 20.
[00:41:01] Speaker C: I think if Patrick Mahomes flashbacks of 2020 buccaneers.
[00:41:07] Speaker B: Is that the Buccaneers?
[00:41:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
I'm thinking. I don't think it's going to be as like Patrick Mahomes doing everything for him to throw the ball to the receiver and hit him in a helmet. I don't think it's going to be that level. I think. I think Mahomes is going to be under a lot of pressure because I think Jalen Carter will be on him all day. I mean, I don't know if Joe Tunney still going to be out at left tackle. I think I heard he is going to be. Which means they're going to have a left guard who has.
I forget his name, but he has not looked great so far this playoffs. I know the starting left tackle.
[00:41:41] Speaker C: Oh, the left guard, yes.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: Because I know they moved Tooney out to left tackle because their tackle situation has been terrible.
[00:41:47] Speaker C: Mike Caliendo.
[00:41:48] Speaker A: Yes. And he has not been great against interior pressure and stuff like that.
[00:41:53] Speaker B: So I. Mike Caliendo, yes.
[00:41:56] Speaker A: So I think Jalen Carter is going to play a huge factor on just disrupting everything, disrupt the timing. And I think Patrick Mahomes is going to be running around a lot. I don't think they'll be able to run the ball as.
As easily they were the last time they played just because, I mean, they had. The Eagles had the best defensive line we've seen since 10 years. I would say, at least in my opinion back then with 70 sacks, it's phenomenal. But I'm saying from 2022 they had 70 sacks that year. And the Eagles. Yeah.
[00:42:30] Speaker C: Oh, wow.
[00:42:30] Speaker A: But they were regarded as, I think the best defense or like a top three defense in the league at that time. But once you get past a D line, it was. It was not a good linebacking core and it was not a good secondary. So this year, the way the cornerbacks are playing, the linebackers are playing at all pro level, I think you are now able to rely on just playing defense and not having to get back after the quarterback like they were because that's why Patrick Mahomes was able to take over the game late, because the Eagles just didn't get pressure. And so I think that's going to be a huge factor. I think it's going to Be a hard day for Patrick Mahomes to just get anything going through the air.
And I think Saquon Barkley breaks at least one for a touchdown.
I think he'll score maybe once or once or twice, but I think he was going to break a 70 plus yard run for a game.
[00:43:20] Speaker C: Speaking of, we didn't mention that run against the Commanders he had. That was the first play I actually tuned in to watch. I didn't realize it was his first. It was the Eagles first play. Yeah, that was a phenomenal run.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: It was.
[00:43:32] Speaker C: It was crazy.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: And I mean, looking back at the Chiefs so far this playoffs again. For their first game against the Texans, Joe Mixon had 88 yards rushing in a touchdown. Who? I mean, the Texans are a great team. Don't get me wrong. Joe Mixon's a great running back, but Saquon Barkley is like. I want to, I don't want to say like it's a considerably better. No. Yes. I don't want to put it in like a really bad disrespectful way, but he is significantly better and that O line is significantly better than the, the Texans O line. And then you look at the last game against the bills in the AFC championship, James Cook had 85 yards rushing and two touchdowns. Also with Ty Johnson and Ray Davis having 19 yards and four yards off of two carries and six carries. So I think the way Saquon Barkley can set up the holes like I know, I'm sure you've heard about it, how he is taught to kind of, you know, you see the hole right here but you kind of bounce to a cutback lane to make it. Think like you're going there and then you set up that hole perfectly. And that's how you get so many 70 plus yard runs or huge touchdown runs. So I think that's going to be a huge factor and I think that's the reason why the Eagles are going to win big.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: I think if the Eagles win, it's because they don't allow the Chiefs to do what I said. They don't get discouraged by a four, a four yard run. They keep that pressure, keep applying it, then they control the pressure and just disrupting Patrick Mahomes, making him try to have to play hero ball by blitzing him, actually tackling him when he does get out of the pocket. If he wants to try that little tiptoe thing on the sideline, I say take that 15 yards. If, if they're going to give you 15 yard penalty for that, hit him don't let him get around and just go for 30 tackle Patrick Mahomes. Don't. Don't let them control the pressure and just play your own game. Don't play the Chiefs game. That's how the Eagles would win this game.
[00:45:30] Speaker B: So you're picking the Eagles?
[00:45:32] Speaker C: No, I'm saying if the Eagles were to win, it's because they don't play to the Chiefs game. They play their own game. They get big runs, they pressure Mahomes, they don't play scared. That's how the Eagles win.
[00:45:48] Speaker B: So there's so many reasons when you're looking at this game, to pick the Chiefs. It's the history element of it. It's that they've been there before. They've done that. They've beaten the Eagles just two years ago.
But then I look on the other side, a team from the other side that I help from the Keystone State, the city of brotherly love.
A city that is mired with strife. Angry people. I tell you what, they're angry. They're angry in Philly. No love in Philly, no.
[00:46:21] Speaker A: There is love, but not for anybody outside of Philly.
[00:46:24] Speaker B: Sometimes not even the people inside of Philly. But when they grease up those poles after the championship games, when they, when they have that, those parades that come through the streets when the championships come, it's a special moment in the city of Philly this year they have a man named Saquon Barkley, you might have heard of him. He's had an historically good season, over 2,000 rushing yards.
And Jalen Hurts has backed that up with a stellar season at quarterback and Eagles defense that is young yet extremely talented and has been one of the top three defenses in just about every considerable metric that is used to judge a defense in the NFL.
I have to pick the Eagles in this game. I have to pick the Eagles for those reasons. I think at some point the dam is going to break for the Chiefs. I've said this all year. I still think it's true. Now as we get into the super bowl, despite the Chiefs having an incredible season, it's not going to be a one score game. I agree with Connor. I think it's going to be probably a double digit win. I'm thinking probably 10 points right on the. Right on the cusp of that double digits. And I think the Chiefs are going to not only lose this game, but I think this will be the. Mark my words. I think this is big. I think this will be the last time we see the Chiefs in the super bowl. For at least another three years.
[00:47:59] Speaker C: Wouldn't that be something we're gonna see?
[00:48:02] Speaker A: We're gonna be Alex on the freezing cold table.
[00:48:05] Speaker B: I actually think this, not that it's the end of their dynasty long term. I think that they will not make it back next year. I don't think they'll make it back for at least three more seasons.
[00:48:14] Speaker C: Is this their Eli Manning gap years of the Patriots?
[00:48:19] Speaker B: I really do think they're gonna have to retool.
[00:48:21] Speaker A: They are getting old.
[00:48:21] Speaker B: They're getting old. As soon as Chris Jones is gone, that's that. That's a huge change in their dynasty. Now he's not going to be gone after this game, obviously, unless there's something unforeseen happens because he'd have to forego a lot of money that he has come in his contract coming up. But I don't think Kelsey is much longer. I think if, especially if they were to win this Super Bowl, I think Kelsey probably would retire.
But obviously I'm predicting them to lose. So I don't. I just don't think that they're going to make it back to the super bowl, especially with a better Bengals team.
The Ravens have got to win at some point. You think the Bills.
[00:48:57] Speaker C: I don't think the Ravens too.
[00:48:59] Speaker B: Especially if the Bills can make something happen with the roster. And I believe the Texans will be better and I think the division is going to get better as well. You have the Seahawks. Not the Seahawks.
[00:49:09] Speaker A: I think the Chargers are going to be up there.
[00:49:10] Speaker B: I think the Chargers are going to be great. I think that Chargers.
[00:49:13] Speaker C: Look at the Broncos not doing anything with that quarterback.
[00:49:16] Speaker B: Look at the Broncos this year with Bo Nix. How could they get worse? Especially when they have $37 million coming available, that they are paying Russell Wilson this year. That's going to be available to them. They'll have a decent pick in the draft. And the Raiders, they have Pete Carroll now as our head coach. Tom Brady is our owner. I think they have a better vision for the team moving forward.
So I think this is a big game for the Chiefs. I think they. Obviously it is, but I think this is a big game for the Chiefs long term in terms of what their dynasty is going to look like in the years to come or if they will even have a dynasty in three years or if. Or if this is the end, we'll see. But I think this will be an Eagles victory.
[00:49:51] Speaker A: One last thing I have to say about this game. The Eagles lost in 2022, 38 to 35. And you know it was a tough. It was a tough game. Miles Sanders had seven rushes for 16 yards and Kenneth Gainwell had seven rushes for 21 yards. None of those guys are Saquon Barkley. Adding Saquon Barkley to that backfield would have done numbers. So I think that's going to be a huge reason on why the Eagles win this game is just because they added to Katie, Steph Curry and Klay Thompson added Kevin Durant.
[00:50:25] Speaker B: There you go.
[00:50:25] Speaker A: Shout out Janky Rondo.
[00:50:27] Speaker B: Let's do some prop bets.
[00:50:29] Speaker C: I'm picking the Chiefs, by the way. I know I didn't get a spiel about it, but that's okay because you.
[00:50:37] Speaker B: Explain why they would why they.
Will you explain how the Eagles could win?
[00:50:42] Speaker C: I explained how the Chiefs and Eagles could win, but I just think the end of dynasty talk. I'm not gonna say it's crazy. We've all been talking about it the past couple years, but you see those clips of people talking about Ben Simmons is here, LeBron say goodbye or from Howard 2016. Everyone was talking about LeBron, it's his time. Tom Brady, it's his time. I'm not going to see it until I believe. I'm not going to believe it until I see it.
[00:51:09] Speaker A: I'm not saying the dynasty is over. I just don't think they win this game.
[00:51:12] Speaker C: I think they play up to competition, which is such a silly thing to say, but it's true. They've had all these games that have been closed because they're playing what the competition is giving them. And I think the Eagles are a great team. The Chiefs aren't just going to let them be great on them. I think they're going to play a chess match, really, and it's going to be a one score game. I think it'll be probably within three, four points and I think they just eek it out because it's the Chiefs. And that's pretty much the whole basis is it's the Chiefs.
[00:51:45] Speaker A: You know. You know what makes me feel better? Looking back at how this season has gone with our picks, we're on the opposite side of heaven. So that makes me feel confident about that.
[00:51:54] Speaker B: That is a good thing.
[00:51:55] Speaker C: And the Chiefs have been on the opposite of two losses. It's true, Eagles have been three, but.
[00:52:01] Speaker B: It'S the Chiefs now. I am going to still go there with that take on this being the. I think this is the end. Whether it's the Chiefs win or lose. I don't think we'll see the Chiefs back in the super bowl for multiple seasons and that's not a knock on the Chiefs. I think the Chiefs will still be a playoff. Obviously there'll still be a playoff team and a contender, but I don't think there'll be competing at the super bowl for several seasons. That doesn't mean necessarily dynasty is over if you're still making AFC championship games or still making playoffs. But I think the dynasty as we know it in this three year span will not continue for a fourth year.
That's. They call that an easy or convenient take whatever you like. But I think that's. That's probably going to be the reality. I think that is going to be the reality. Moving forward onto some prop bets. Over under 48 and a half for this game. What are we seeing?
[00:52:54] Speaker A: I'm going over.
[00:52:55] Speaker C: Over.
[00:52:56] Speaker B: I'm going to go over as well. Last time it was obviously 38, 35, I think, I think not quite that high scoring, but I think we'll get something like that anytime. Touchdown score.
[00:53:07] Speaker A: I'm going Johan Dotson.
[00:53:10] Speaker C: Kelsey.
[00:53:13] Speaker B: It's good picks.
Good picks. I'm going to go Noah Gray.
[00:53:21] Speaker A: Noah Gray.
[00:53:22] Speaker C: Interesting.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:53:25] Speaker C: Are we getting like more picks for. Oh, maybe we should do more points for the more obscure.
[00:53:31] Speaker B: I think they make him look so good. They make him look so good for the Chiefs. I think. I think he could get a touchdown.
[00:53:39] Speaker A: I'm not going to say he is not, but that's interesting. Yes.
[00:53:44] Speaker B: Put a nickel on it. Put a nickel on it. Hertz or Mahomes have more passing yards?
[00:53:49] Speaker C: Hertz.
[00:53:51] Speaker A: I'm going.
I'm going. Hurts.
[00:53:55] Speaker B: I'm going to go Hertz as well in this game. I think Hertz. Hertz obviously has had a decent season. Mahomes a great season as well. So I think it's going to be. It's going to come down to the running game though. At the end of the day. I think we'd. I'll agree on that at the end of the day. Time of possession.
[00:54:10] Speaker C: Chiefs.
[00:54:11] Speaker A: Eagles.
[00:54:12] Speaker B: The Eagles are going to win this game. I'm going to go with the Eagles. Over, under. This is a say in the weeds one for our final prop bet. Ron Torbert is the referee for this game. He's averaging about 13 and a half flags per game this year. That's third most in the league.
Excuse me.
13 and a half is the over under on flags. What do you say?
[00:54:39] Speaker C: Over under.
[00:54:41] Speaker A: I think you can never bet the under on the Chiefs when it comes to flags because you always see Patrick Mahomes flailing like a baby. I wasn't going to go that far.
[00:54:50] Speaker C: But like a big baby.
[00:54:52] Speaker B: Okay. I think it's going to be less than 13 and a half. I think when you get to these games, I think you'll see a tendency. Probably you would think they'd have a tendency to call everything. I don't think they will in this sense, at least for this game. But that's. That's our show.
[00:55:06] Speaker C: I actually thought we were going to do one more. So I'm going to change my Kelsey to tush. Push. Give me Jalen hurts.
[00:55:12] Speaker B: Okay, I like that, too. I like that, too. On the ground. Jalen hurts.
[00:55:18] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah. No throwing.
[00:55:19] Speaker B: Fantastic. And well, folks, that does it for our show today. Any closing thoughts, fellas?
[00:55:25] Speaker A: Go birds.
[00:55:25] Speaker C: Go birds.
[00:55:26] Speaker A: And if you haven't been keeping up with the NBA world, you should keep up now because the trade deadline just happened. Well, it's going to happen and probably the biggest trade in NBA history just happened. Quentin grimes in a second round pick for Caleb Martin.
[00:55:42] Speaker C: Be on the lookout. KD305 is calling him.
[00:55:46] Speaker B: 76Ers and Mavs making deals. Mavs making a lot of deals. As the NBA heats up, as the NFL season begins to come to a close, it's the Eagles and the Chiefs in the Super Bowl. Enjoy the game, enjoy the family, enjoy the football. See you next week.
[00:56:16] Speaker A: Wvuafm, Tuscaloosa.
