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[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUAFM Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Welcome back, everyone, to WVUA 90.7, the Capstone's MBA student section. I'm your host, Zachary Elrod, and here with me is Drew Williamson and Trey Simpson. We're back, y'all. What do y'all got to say? I mean, it's been a minute.
[00:00:32] Speaker C: It's been a minute. I don't think there's been a better time for a show ever based off what's happened this last week.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: So absolutely bonkers. What do you think, Trey, about just everything that's been going on.
[00:00:43] Speaker A: Just glad to be back, honestly, like y'all said, we have a lot to talk about, too much to get into. We won't even be able to get every into everything tonight to the viewers that are listening. But I'm excited to be back. Ready to get back into it. Let's get right into it, guys.
[00:00:57] Speaker B: All right, start things off. I know y'all have heard the news with Luca. A three team trade between the Mavericks, Lakers and Jazz sends Luka Doncic, Maxi Kleber, and Marke Morris to the Lakers for Anthony Davis, Max Christie and a 2029 first round pick. The Jazz got Jalen Hood Fino. I know you. I've seen him. I've seen his face before. And they also got two second round picks. Now, this set the league, I mean, set everything in storm. When I got the notification from Shams, I was just like, there's no way this is real.
And then I saw another post by him saying this is 1000% real.
[00:01:36] Speaker C: I think. I think everyone thought when they first checked their phones and saw this, I think everybody thought it was fake because, like Luka Doncic and like this goes back to, you know, franchise type players like Steph Curry with the Warriors, Devin Booker with the Suns. Yeah, you thought Luca was one of those guys that was honestly going to be with the Mavericks for all of his career. And he even said he wanted to be with the Mavericks for all of his career. So you just never thought in a million years that Dallas would trade somebody who's 25 and like their franchise player. But crazier things have happened.
[00:02:09] Speaker A: So, yeah, it. It kind of reminds me back in now the year. I'm trying to remember if this is, like, accurate, but I think it was like 2013. Remember when David Stern vetoed the Chris Paul trip?
[00:02:21] Speaker C: Absolutely. With Kobe prime.
[00:02:22] Speaker A: Chris Paul for ye be with Kobe. That was crazy, man. That was.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: But I mean, my initial reactions, I mean, as a Mavericks fan, it's just like it Seems criminal. I mean, a guy that's just this close to the franchise. I mean, whoever the G. The GM is, I know his name is Mark Cuban.
[00:02:43] Speaker A: No, it's not the gm.
[00:02:44] Speaker C: Nico Harris, Nico Harrison.
[00:02:45] Speaker B: I mean, Nico Harris is starting to kind of get to the. I don't know, he's going to the dark side a little bit, if you know what I mean. For GMs, when GMs, like, you know, they have this idea, they're like, okay, in order for us to get to that next stride, to get to the, you know, the chip, I mean, I'm going to have to make a crazy move. And he made a crazy move, and I don't know if I like it for that reason, but do I like it? As far as, you know, us. The probability of us wanting a chip this year. Yes, I think that boosts the probability.
[00:03:18] Speaker C: I guess. I guess I'll be the one to say it. I. I disagree.
[00:03:22] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:23] Speaker C: With. With. I don't disagree that y'all got better because y'all. Y'all got better right now, 100%. There's no question that y'all improved. Yalls team and Yalls championship chances have gotten better. That being said, I do not think this makes y'all contenders, in my opinion. I don't think this makes y'all contenders. I think they're still. Even though y'all went to the finals last year, which that makes the whole. That makes the whole Luka trade even more bizarre to me that y'all made the finals last year and then y'all traded him. But.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: But we lost him five games, dude.
[00:03:55] Speaker C: That's. That's true. Which in my opinion, no one was beating that Celtics team. That Celtics team was. Was tough.
[00:04:01] Speaker B: I agree.
[00:04:02] Speaker C: And Cavs are getting tougher. I mean, okc, there's just so many good teams. I don't. I don't know if Dallas gets over that hump. I do agree that this made y'all better for right now and in a win now mindset. But for the future, I don't know what you got.
[00:04:17] Speaker B: I agree with that.
[00:04:18] Speaker A: Yeah. And because to piggyback off of that point, think about it. Now, AD has had all types of time in LA with LeBron and whoever else to make his mark. Now for the last couple of years, we've been saying street closed. AD now that's more of a troll than like, you know, factual. But like, he was injured, like, injured a lot. He didn't, I guess, produce exactly what we wanted into in la because the times where it's almost like we had to frustrate Anthony Davis to get him to play how we should have played the whole time. Like, you know how we just got 43 and 22 right when he got traded? Like, I don't know, it's. We kind of have to, like, do a little too much to, like, get him there. So I don't really. I gotta agree with you on that point, Drew. I don't think this turns them into a championship team right now. But at the same time, we also know that having a great elite point guard like Kyrie will elevate any center. It doesn't even matter if it's AD it just makes it that much more sweeter for the mass because it's him. But I mean, he has Kyrie. Has Derrick Lively looking like a goat. Not saying, taking anything away from Derek Lively, but I'm just saying before Kyrie effect, we weren't really paying that much attention.
[00:05:25] Speaker C: And Daniel Gafford, y'all have so many. Y'all have great bigs now. And the thing about Kyrie is now Kyrie has to kind of step up and in a huge way. And I'm not saying he's not capable of it because he absolutely is, but that's a lot of pressure on him. TD guard, you know, he lost his running. Yeah, exactly.
So it's just. It's. It's a lot to process. I probably won't fully process the trade until Luca plays his first game with LA and which is most likely going.
[00:05:54] Speaker B: To be Monday now versus the Jazz as from what I've heard.
[00:05:57] Speaker C: Yes. And then AD Plays no more.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: No, not Saturday anymore. Because of his calf. I think it's a calf injury.
[00:06:03] Speaker C: When does AD play? His first game with the Mavericks.
[00:06:05] Speaker B: He was supposed to play today against the Celtics, but stuff. Anthony Davis things.
[00:06:10] Speaker A: Yeah, but already, I mean, they might be the same thing with Luca. They might just be trying to finalize, you know, like legal stuff before they can actually. Of course, because, you know, true.
[00:06:18] Speaker C: That would make sense.
[00:06:20] Speaker B: But I mean, as far as what you are saying, our future, yes, we got a first round pick out of it, but I mean, if we don't win now, it's. It's wraps.
[00:06:32] Speaker C: People. People are going to look back and three.
Three years, four years from now, and they're going to either really, which every. I would speak for a lot of Mavs fans right now that are out there that say that this was one of the worst trade. Like I'm seeing people that are saying this is one of the worst Trades in NBA history. I'm seeing so many really mad Mavericks fans.
But if they can go and make noise in the playoffs, make another finals appearance, maybe people will look at this decision from Nico Harrison and maybe, maybe say, okay, this wasn't that bad of a trade, but I just, I can't see it happening.
[00:07:06] Speaker B: That's what I'm saying. He's going, he's going to the dark side a little bit. He's going to that side towards like, you know, I'm getting the last dance vibes, you know, breaking up the culture. I mean, obviously we didn't win three rings back to back to back, but I mean it's still the same effect, Luka, just, you know, the culture, he said in Dallas and just like the amount of fans he has, it's just, it was, it's really just shocking. So we'll see if Nico Harris's decision pays off.
[00:07:36] Speaker A: Meanwhile, my fault, my fault. I have one more thing to say about the Mavericks.
[00:07:40] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:07:40] Speaker A: Piggybacking off of Kyrie, Anthony Davis. So we're all focused on Anthony Davis right now because his injuries and whatever he has to deal with.
[00:07:47] Speaker B: True.
[00:07:48] Speaker A: But we also forget that Kyrie kind of comes with his own bag too. Like his own baggage too. Not saying that, you know, like we know he's effective on the court but like, you know, like all the outside like drama that comes with Kyrie, he's got better about.
[00:08:03] Speaker C: Well, he. Absolutely, honestly, in my opinion, ever since Kyrie left Brooklyn, he has been like a completely different player. And it's, it's, you know, unfortunate that, you know, my favorite player had to suffer the Kyrie where he was out and doing his own thing, taking pause breaks from the NBA. But I think ever since he's been in Dallas he's been, he's been a lot more effective. But I mean you're right, it's a lot of. He's, he's still kind of one of those players that could at any moment just decide to. I'm not going to play a few games and it wouldn't even be a surprise, but.
[00:08:34] Speaker B: Yeah, but meanwhile I want to get into this trade to a three team trade between the Spurs, Kings and Bulls. De'Aaron Fox and Jordan McLaughlin go to San Antonio. The Kings receive Zach Levine, Sydney Sisco and three first and three second round picks while the Bulls receive Zach Collins, Tre Jones, Kevin herder and a 2025 pick. I mean, initial thoughts with this. I know Jonas, Jonas Valentunas is also going over to Sacramento too. So they're Getting Jonas, they're getting Zach Levine, getting some picks. What do you think, Trey?
[00:09:08] Speaker A: Now, here's my comment about the Zach Levine trade. Now, that was a failed experiment, we could say now from Chicago, trying to put DeMar DeRozan Zachary together. Not saying because they didn't make playoffs, nor did they reach, you know, even like the chance of getting a conference title. So them kind of putting Zach Levine back with Demar, I don't think that was on purpose, but at the same time I feel like it's kind of just like, well, why are we going to see something different? But then I was like, well, no, because they just got rid of De'Aaron Fox. So to me, when they just had. Well, they didn't even have Lonzo Ball, but the bullshit considered him too. We'll talk about him in a second.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: They did? Yes.
[00:09:47] Speaker A: Like, they don't even. I don't know. I just don't really see how that's going to work for them. I want to see what the Kings do.
I don't know. What do y'all think about that?
[00:09:54] Speaker B: Like, I mean, I love the move for the Spurs.
[00:09:57] Speaker C: That, that's. That was going to be my first point because the spurs are now become this. Like, there's obviously we're already a fun team to watch because who doesn't like to watch, you know, Wimy go out there and play. But you add Dear and Fox to this team and you didn't have to get rid of Keldon Johnson, Devin Vassell, Chris Paul. Chris Paul, Harrison Barnes, Stefan Castle like you have. You didn't have to get rid of any of those guys. And you just added Dear and Fox to a team with Wimby and then he gets to, you know, Chris Paul with that veteran leadership as well. That team is, you know, it got so much better.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: They just got their first win together in Atlanta.
[00:10:34] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:10:34] Speaker B: It was a good one biter too, is one point game. I mean, Victor Webanyama missed that free throw to give him, you know, and.
[00:10:40] Speaker C: Then Trey almost made that from the broadcast angle.
[00:10:44] Speaker B: I thought it was like, was pretty scary. I mean, if you were a Spurs fan. But anyways, I mean, this Dear and Fox trade, in my opinion, I think it's awesome. They're already kind of in that play in conversation just right below it, right below that 10th seed. So I feel like this gives them the push to make that play in tournament and to possibly make the playoffs.
[00:11:05] Speaker C: Absolutely. And I think don't. I mean, I'm not saying they're going to win the Championship or anything. But I am saying that they. I think they can make noise in the playoffs.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: They could pop comes back and get them right, man.
[00:11:16] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:11:17] Speaker A: 2013 Spurs.
[00:11:18] Speaker C: Absolutely. The 2013 Spurs. Like ball movement, fundamentals. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Now, what do you all think about this Kings? I know we touched on it a little bit, but what do you all think about the Kings right now? Because they don't have Deer and Fox, I guess they still have Malik Monk, they have Keon Ellis. I don't know if they're going to start Malik Monk because he's known for coming off the bench, but still got Sabonis, of course, but obviously they got Sabonus. But I'm just thinking from a guard standpoint as far as who's going to run that point position. I guess maybe Keon Ellis will by.
[00:11:49] Speaker A: The saying Zach Levine, he get, you know, two guard, you know, it's interchangeable.
[00:11:52] Speaker B: Yeah, I do know Zach Levine's preferred. I mean, when you watch his style of play, it's coming off ball screens and then creating, you know, kind of like, I mean, I guess like a Devin Booker, you know, per se.
But really and truly, it's not bringing the ball up the court. And then, you know, I think what.
[00:12:12] Speaker C: The biggest thing for the Kings was. I don't think people truly realize how big that Jonas Valentuna signing was because, I mean, that adds so much them. Sabonis isn't really. Simone's is a wonderful player, but he's not really the like, big, like burly, big man that like, you know, most teams, you know, need and Jonas League and rebound, so. Oh, he's absolutely. I mean, he's, you know, one of those guys. He's a very physical player. But Jonas provides, like, just. I don't know, he provides a lot more to me. A lot more. I don't want to say physicality, but I do, like think. I think it takes, you know, a lot of pressure off of Sabonis. I'll say that.
[00:12:50] Speaker B: To say that pressure off of me, that's great. And then the still got DeMar DeRozan. They got Keegan Murray, they got. They got a lot of dudes.
[00:12:57] Speaker C: I love that Demar Demar DeRozan and Zach Lavine are reuniting on the. On the keys.
[00:13:02] Speaker B: A lot of people don't like it for that reason.
[00:13:04] Speaker C: Really?
[00:13:05] Speaker B: Because it's like, you know.
[00:13:06] Speaker C: Well, that's. I mean, I guess that old schools, you know. Oh, yeah.
[00:13:10] Speaker B: So I ain't gonna lie.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: I got a decent comparison. Not a good comparison, but A decent comparison for the two big man Jonas Valentunas and what's his name to go Barrett and Cat.
[00:13:21] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, I knew you were going to say that. I absolutely knew you were going to say together.
[00:13:26] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:13:26] Speaker A: When, you know, doing the dirty work. Even though they still kind of slander his name. But it's Rudy Gobert. Anyway, Cat, we want him to play physical as well, but you got to get him mad. He's just like 80. You got to get a mad to get. Get him to like play the way you want him to play. But anyway, just like I feel like they're going to be a better duo than Cat and Gobert.
[00:13:45] Speaker C: I agree.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: Valentine is actually like, I ain't going to lie. He gets right in the paint. He does the dirty work.
[00:13:50] Speaker B: I don't know if we have enough time to touch on Jimmy Butler. We can in the next, you know, the next after the break. But the Lakers trading Dalton Connect and Cam reddish and a 2031 unprotected first round pick to the Hornets for 2030 pick swap and Mark Williams. I'm glad to see that everyone's paying attention to Mark Williams or at least the Lakers are paying attention to how good of a season Mark Williams is having. He's nearly averaging a 15 point double double. He's 23 years old. I mean.
[00:14:21] Speaker C: Yeah, no, that, I mean that. That pickup is huge. Especially after losing AD and how like, you know how good of a season he's having. They needed a center. But Trey, I feel like you are. You got something to say about losing.
[00:14:34] Speaker B: Dalton Connect y'all desperately needed.
[00:14:37] Speaker C: Oh, absolutely.
[00:14:38] Speaker A: You're right about that. We desperately did need a center. I'm not going to lie.
I am not a fan of the connect tray. I know we were talking about Mark Williams. I'm a fan of that trade. Like yes, we needed a center. We completed the piece because again, now the pressure is off LeBron and it's basically on Luca and whoever we have anyway, man, I'm not a fan of that connect trade. He's been balling out ever since he even got to the league. Summer league. He was hooping. It's been nothing but consistent buckets effort on both ends of the floor, defense and offense.
[00:15:09] Speaker B: He has been struggling as of late though. But it's rookie season, so I mean.
[00:15:14] Speaker A: It'S a lot of. We don't even talk about the one number one and two picks. We just started talking about Rob Dillingham a couple weeks ago.
[00:15:20] Speaker B: True.
[00:15:21] Speaker A: So I ain't gonna lie. Like I said, I'm not a fan of that trade. I actually supported the Connect movement, Connect four. I, yeah, I was in support of that.
[00:15:31] Speaker C: Would you have rather them traded Connect or AR Connect?
[00:15:35] Speaker A: I ain't gonna lie because of what AR did for us in the playoff.
[00:15:38] Speaker C: I just wanted, I just wanted to see, I just wanted to see what he was gonna say.
[00:15:41] Speaker A: You can't, you can't give up Austin Reed. Once LeBron snapped it, that was it. Like he solidified his own like place on the team because of what he did for us in the playoffs that run. So can't give him up. I agree.
[00:15:53] Speaker B: Well, that's going to do it. We'll be right back after this short break. You are listening to WVUA FM 90.7, the Capstone's NBA student section. And we'll be right back after the short break.
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Welcome back everyone to WVUAFM 90.7, the Capstone's MBA student section. We're back and we got a lot more to get into because I mean normally we have a little surprise segment of the week, but since today was the tread dead on and Thursday, I mean it's like if we don't talk any more about these trades, I mean that just feels kind of criminal to me if it, I mean I don't know if y'all feel the same way, but it just feels criminal. So anyways, let's get into another big blockbuster trade, another multi team trade. Jimmy Butler is going to Golden State in a four team trade with a Miami Heat, Warriors, Jazz and the Pistons. So basically the Heat receive Andrew Wiggins, Kyle Anderson, P.J. tucker and a 2029 first round pick. The warriors receive Jimmy Butler. And then the Jazz received Dennis Schroeder who's now actually on the Pistons. And then Lindy Waters, and then the Pistons received Lindy Waters and Josh Richardson. Now moments after this trade, Jimmy Butler already signed a two year, $121 million deal with the Warriors.
I mean to end the entire facade of, with Pat Riley having constant conversations with him getting suspended like three times in a month. I mean this has been long overdue in my opinion.
[00:18:12] Speaker C: Yeah, I mean it was clear, it was very clear he wanted out and he, he did not like what Miami did in the off season. They didn't really, you know, ever since their finals run in 2023. I don't think they've done anything to improve their roster. Jimmy was tired of it and decided, hey, let's, you know, I want out, and basically did everything he could to get traded. And I don't know how I feel about Golden State, but I know he wanted to leave Miami, and I know he's happier now. That's why. I mean, he immediately signed the extension, but I don't think that. I don't think that necessarily, Golden State was the right fit. I just think that Golden State was so desperate to get a star player, and when Kevin Durant had said that he didn't want to go, he didn't want a reunion, I think that's when they were like, okay, let's set our sights to Jimmy Butler.
[00:19:04] Speaker B: With that being said, out of Jimmy Butler's preferred destinations, it was between the Mavs, the Rocket, Suns, and the Warriors. I like the warriors the most, I think. I don't think you would like the Suns.
[00:19:17] Speaker C: I think he would have. I think he would have fit in better with the Suns.
[00:19:20] Speaker B: You would. Would you want him as a Sun's fan, though?
[00:19:23] Speaker C: I don't even know what I want anymore. As a Suns fan, you don't understand the pain of this season. I think it would have been definitely interesting, but it would have depended on who we gave up. Probably giving up Bradley Beal, but I could go on and on about the Suns this season, but Bradley Bill's coming.
[00:19:42] Speaker B: Off the bench for y'all now.
[00:19:43] Speaker C: He is. And it's.
[00:19:44] Speaker B: That yesterday.
[00:19:45] Speaker C: Yeah, it's. It's been. It's been a season, that's for sure. He is coming off the bench and honestly think it's. It's been better, but we're just so up and down, and it's just so.
[00:19:54] Speaker B: You know, y'all got whooped by the Thunder.
[00:19:56] Speaker C: But that's the Thunder, though, and Durant didn't play. But, yes, you're. You're right, we did. And I expected that to happen, but it was just. It's just. It's been a frustrating year. But that being said, the favorite. My favorite part of that Jimmy Butler trade was the Heat. I know y'all saw the video of the Heat fan telling Tyler Herro, Jaime Hawkez and Kevin Love on the bench. The trade, like, mid game, like, while they're playing. That was amazing.
[00:20:20] Speaker B: Did you see that video, Trey? That was pretty insane.
[00:20:23] Speaker A: Yeah, I saw it. And then they had, like, live reactions and stuff. It was crazy.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: It was really crazy. But, I mean, I'm just. Honestly, Glad Curry gets his second star. I mean, even if it is Jimmy Butler, Like, I think it was me and my dad talking yesterday. Like, just imagine, playoff Jimmy in his truest form, going to the rack and then doesn't have it, kicks it out.
I mean, like, you know what I'm saying? And just back and forth, you can go on and on. I mean, really and truly, both guys at their best. And they still, you know, they gave up a lot for him, but they still got Buddy healed, Jonathan Kaminga, Moses Moody, Draymond Green. They got Kavana Looney, Tracy Jackson. I mean, I could, you know, Gary Payton.
[00:21:12] Speaker C: It is exciting because this is the first superstar Curry's gotten to play with since kd. And so, you know, I just. I don't.
[00:21:21] Speaker B: Wait. Trey to Trey. You're forgetting Jordan pool.
Drew, you're forgetting Jordan Poole.
[00:21:28] Speaker C: Are we really considering him a superstar?
[00:21:30] Speaker B: It's jokes, guys. It's jokes. Chill. Oh, well, yeah.
[00:21:34] Speaker C: I mean, look, if there was like a. If there was like a girl sitting courtside, then Jordan Poole would be a superstar. But I don't know. I just. I don't think. If. I don't think it fits. I don't think Jimmy Butler is gonna. Is gonna fit in. And it's all depending on how, like, what Jimmy Butler are we getting? If we're getting that playoff Jimmy, then that's absolutely scary to mix him with Steph Curry. But I, you know, I don't know.
[00:21:55] Speaker B: I agree with you. Yeah. What about you, Trey? What do you think about this trade so far, at least from a Warriors perspective?
[00:22:02] Speaker A: So I've been seeing, like, just. Well, what I think. Honestly, I don't think the warriors necessarily get better, but I don't think they get worse either. Because Jimmy Butler and Andrew Wiggins, to me, are like, to a certain degree, kind of, like, interchangeable. Like one in the same kind of. But it, like, I don't know, like, it just depends. Like you say, like you said, Drew, what Jimmy are y'all getting at? Like, is he the Jimmy that wants to come play, is about business and wants to, like, you know, do what he can for his team, the best thing for his team? Or is he coming in with ego and is he going to be trying to, you know, with his hair and just doing a whole bunch of getting more attention from his off the court stuff than on the court, you know, because we see how that works out with Dylan Brooks. Now, granted, I ain't gonna lie. I just wanted to throw that in there just to give Dylan Brooks his flowers. Right quick.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. How does it always come back?
[00:22:55] Speaker A: When he dropped. When he dropped him. Nine threes or whatever against. Man, I forgot what team, but it was literally just a couple days.
[00:23:01] Speaker C: I think it was. Was it Boston or am I making.
[00:23:04] Speaker A: That up against Boston?
[00:23:04] Speaker C: It was Boston. Yeah.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: That's all I'm gonna say. That's all I gotta say.
[00:23:09] Speaker C: All roads lead to Dylan Brooks.
[00:23:10] Speaker B: Oh, goodness.
[00:23:11] Speaker A: And hating Boston.
[00:23:13] Speaker B: That's.
[00:23:14] Speaker C: I agree with that.
[00:23:15] Speaker B: But I mean, Cody Martin. What's his name? The guy that the Mavis or Caleb Martin.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Caleb Martin.
[00:23:19] Speaker B: I'm thinking getting it twisted with this brother. I mean, Caleb Martin had seven threes that one night too. Doesn't mean I want to trade him for Quentin Grimes, so. But anyways, I mean, I forgot to mention also, PJ Tucker actually isn't going to the Heat. He's actually going to Toronto for Davion Mitchell. Basically. Just if y'all are confused, it's fine. I'm just as confused with y'all. This entire trade deadline has been nothing short, but just like it's been pretty crazy.
[00:23:49] Speaker C: No doubt.
[00:23:50] Speaker B: But I mean, going into another trade that I think needs to be. Needs to be talked about. The Hawks made some moves and a big move that stuck out to me is trading DeAndre Hunter. They're starting three to the Cavs for Carousel Evert, George Niang and three second round picks and two pick swaps now. I mean, the Cavs have been looking for their three for a long time now. Max Struus has been good for him, but I mean, they've been looking for a dominant 3. I know Isaac Okoro's kind of been in that starting lineup a few times as well. But they got DeAndre Hunter now.
[00:24:27] Speaker C: I love this for the Cavs. I think they've. I think they've been kind of look kind of shopping Caris Lavert for a long time now because they already have. They have great car. I know Carol isn't a typical guard size, but he's. You know, I think they've. I think they definitely won the trade. And like you said, the Cavs have. I think they're like what, 41 and 10 right now. About to head into the All Star break with already 40 plus wins is insane. And they have been playing unbelievable basketball this season and I think this elevates them to another level.
[00:25:01] Speaker B: I agree. Trey, what do you think about this trade so far? I guess in the sense of, you know, for the Hawks.
[00:25:10] Speaker A: I think the Hawks got better. Most definitely.
They got it like a couple More pieces. You know what I mean? Well, you said the Hawks, not the. Okay, I was talking about.
[00:25:21] Speaker B: Yeah, not the Cavs, because, you know, we want to show the Hawks.
[00:25:24] Speaker A: Talking about the Cabs. Okay, Hawks.
What are they. What are they doing? What are they doing? You know, like, I don't. I don't really got too much to say about the Hawks, man. But I can speak about the Cavs, though.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:25:37] Speaker A: Like you said, they got Godly. They got that missing piece that they finally been wanting.
I was just about to touch on their big man, Jared Allen, but at the same time, I just realized who Jared Allen was. Like, I had to remember how player he was. They're good on their big man, I'm not gonna lie. They could maybe look for, like.
Oh. Cause they got Evan Mobley.
[00:26:02] Speaker B: I mean, to me, Evan Mobley is going to win Most Improved Player of the Year.
[00:26:06] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. I don't know why, especially with the.
[00:26:08] Speaker B: Rate the awards been going. John Morant won it two years ago. Shay the previous last year when I wanted Kobe White to win. But we won't get into that. But, I mean, you know, with the way it's going, you know, they're not really looking for a player that's kind of like a diamond in the rough. You just see them, like, emerge from the ashes, and you're just like, wow, this guy's legit. He can really help out his team. It's just kind of going from a star to a superstar.
[00:26:35] Speaker A: And that was Evan Mobley at one point. Remember, like, in the summer league, he was dominating, but we still, like, it was just glimpses at that point. Like, we wanted to see what he could do. And then he's just flourished now, like.
[00:26:45] Speaker B: But he's showing. But he showed last year that he was a pretty. You know, we knew what he was capable of, but now he's really, like, you're saying glimpses.
[00:26:53] Speaker A: Like, we saw glimpses, but he wasn't all the way there like he is now.
[00:26:56] Speaker B: Good point, Trey. I mean, he's absolutely. He just. The only comparison I could compare him to. Is I honest?
That's. That's me, though, as far as his.
I mean, no, who else could you compare him to? Like, his playstyle?
[00:27:12] Speaker C: I mean, that's. That's true, I think. I think with how long he is on, I think we laughed because just Giannis is so, like, that's running one of his own.
[00:27:20] Speaker B: But don't get it twisted, y'all. Everyone listening. I'm not saying he is at Giannis's level. I'm just saying like that comparison.
[00:27:29] Speaker C: Yeah, seems that's true.
[00:27:30] Speaker B: Now, play style. If we're talking about like on a tier list or something. Giannis's S tier, Evan Mobley's like, I give him, I'll give B. I was.
[00:27:39] Speaker C: Gonna say B. I was gonna say B.
[00:27:40] Speaker B: Like maybe B minus.
[00:27:42] Speaker C: I don't.
[00:27:42] Speaker B: He's at a B tier though. Don't get it twisted. I'm not comparing him to like the two time MVP defensive player of the year in the same. Like. Yeah, no, but yeah, I would. The, the Cavs are getting better and they look absolutely scary now because they're the number one seed in the East.
[00:28:00] Speaker A: I had a question about the Hawks right quick. What about Clint Capella? Like, he's still on the Hawks, right?
[00:28:04] Speaker B: Yes.
[00:28:04] Speaker A: He's not been moved around or anything.
Lakers could have grabbed Clint Capella as well.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: So could the Suns, because I ain't gonna lie.
[00:28:12] Speaker A: I'm not saying we needed like a, we don't need a shack type of center. We need just to do the dirty work. We're now assuming like we didn't trade 80. This is before we knew AD was going, like just to take the pressure of getting the dirty work off of him. That would have helped AD flirt, but I don't know, I kind of just brought Clint Capella up to kind of see like, well, why hasn't any team jumped on him? Because he's not bad, but at the same time he's not good either. So I kind of see why he doesn't have trade value. But at the same time, if you look at his stats though, you feel me, like, for what a center needs to do, he does his job, he's.
[00:28:44] Speaker B: A good rebounder and I mean he's going to, he's going to take care of all the dirty work in the paint. Like you mentioned Trey, so I mean, yeah, Clint Cabello has always been that guy. He's a lob threat. I wish Houston back in the day, him and James, oh, him, it was, it was unstoppable. Him and James Harden used to be the stuff.
[00:29:01] Speaker C: I wish the Suns would have made a, made a move for him or got somebody. I know we got Nick Richards, but still, it's just like we, we don't have traded you. Oh my gosh, so many thoughts about that one. I did not like Nurkic. That's putting it mildly. Really did not like Nurkic at all. Didn't like his playstyle, didn't like any that he was doing for the team. But I Didn't like what we got in return for him because we gave up a first round pick. We gave up a first round pick. We were that desperate to get rid of him, we gave up first round pick. And then we didn't even get that good of. We got Cody Martin.
Me, me. Sit. I think that's how you say his last name. And then I believe a second round pick.
[00:29:42] Speaker B: Yep, that's just exactly right.
[00:29:44] Speaker C: Got nothing in return. The only positive is Nurkic was on a bad contract and we got rid of that. But still, it's just giving up a first round pick.
[00:29:51] Speaker B: Up a first. And I saw that.
[00:29:53] Speaker C: Horrible.
[00:29:53] Speaker B: I was like, really?
[00:29:55] Speaker C: It's horrible. And you know, we, we. I give the Suns a a D when it comes to this trade, this trade deadline because we didn't get Jimmy. We didn't get anybody. And we traded Nurkic for a bag of chips.
[00:30:11] Speaker B: I think that's fair, honestly. I mean, there's no, there's no arguing with that. It's just, it's just kind of been rough for the Suns. I mean, I don't really know if we have that much more time to go over any of the rest of these trades, y'all. So I guess we can shift it over to the break.
[00:30:28] Speaker C: Sounds good to me.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: Thank y'all for listening. We'll be right back after this short break. Don't go away. You are listening to WVUAFM 90.7, the Capstone's MBA student section.
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[00:31:38] Speaker B: Welcome back, everyone, to WVUAFM 90.7, the Capstone's NBA student section. We're back, and we got to give out our award for the week. I know we kind of skipped our little special segment, but we got to stay true to the show. So, awards for the week. Anyone volunteer to go first?
Okay, I'll go first.
All right. My standout team. I got to give it to the Grizzlies. They have won all three of their games this week versus the Raptors, Spurs, Bucs, making it 30 for the month of February. And they're also On a four game win streak. They also went nine and five in the month of January.
I mean, this team just looks absolutely insane. I mean, they're five went five wins behind the Thunder, so they're the two seed in the west and five wins ahead of the Rockets and Nuggets. So they're sitting on a pretty cushion as far as the 2 seat goes in the West. But this Grizzlies team, Jaren Jackson Jr. Has been absolutely amazing, especially with Ja Morant's absence. And then they just gave up Marcus Smart today.
I know we didn't really talk about that, but Marcus Smart's going to the Wizards. I mean, that to me, I mean, they said they opened up roster space because they didn't get any. They didn't get jack squat. They got like Marvin Bagley and Johnny Davis.
[00:33:00] Speaker C: It's nothing.
[00:33:02] Speaker B: It baffles me, man. In the words of Trayvon Green, it baffles me.
Anyone else? Team. Team of the week.
[00:33:09] Speaker C: You got.
[00:33:09] Speaker A: I got a team of the week. The Houston Rockies right under the Memphis Grizzlies coming in at the number three spot in the Western Conference. Now, I've been paying attention to the Rockies lately. They put me on notice between all the young talent they have with a little bit of the old talent. I'm not calling Fred Van Vle old, but like, since he has the championship experience and like he's more like a veteran versus like a, you know, kind of like a younger kind of stuff. He's still like. Anyway, I don't know, he has like certain leadership presence that like kind of elevates them, I'm saying, to a kind of a new.
[00:33:41] Speaker B: Oh, and Eamon Thompson has been.
[00:33:43] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
[00:33:44] Speaker B: Amen. Thompson.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: I was gonna say Jalen Green slash Cam Whitmore. Just a little. Just a little bit of Ken Whitmore. Just a little bit like honorable mention type of. Type of thing. But yeah, go ahead.
[00:33:54] Speaker B: Yeah. And then Sanguin. I mean, he's gonna be an All Star this year, too. We didn't even talk about the All Star selections.
[00:34:00] Speaker C: We didn't even talk about that. We didn't.
[00:34:03] Speaker B: I mean, I got. I got stuff to say. I mean, I think Trey Young and Sabonis should have been in there. You got to put them in there.
[00:34:13] Speaker C: I think D Book should have been in there too.
[00:34:15] Speaker B: Oh, okay.
[00:34:16] Speaker A: That's just Lamello Ballo ball.
[00:34:19] Speaker B: Kyrie wasn't a part of it too, but that's biased opinion. I'm not, I'm.
[00:34:22] Speaker C: There's so many people, though. There's Just so many.
[00:34:25] Speaker B: They put Jalen Williams in there. What do you think about.
[00:34:29] Speaker C: I love him as a player. He's a. I love him. But yeah, I mean that's. Yeah.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: But over Lamello ball, though.
[00:34:36] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: That's. That's who I was hurt about.
[00:34:39] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, yeah, Lamello was balling out this season, I thought. And especially based off all the votes he got, I thought he's going to be a starter. But anyways.
Going back into it, Drew.
[00:34:50] Speaker C: Yeah. No. So my standout team actually was the Grizzlies too. But since you said it, I'll pivot to the fourth team in the west right now, which is the Denver Nuggets. They've been there on a four game winning streak. One in three of those four games scored 125 or more. And just Nikola Jokic, man, he's the best player in basketball. I think we can all collectively agree on that. Hopefully.
[00:35:15] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:35:15] Speaker C: Nicole Jokic, best player and best player in the world.
[00:35:18] Speaker B: I don't know if I can agree with that anymore.
[00:35:20] Speaker A: Oh, in the world.
[00:35:22] Speaker B: I don't think I can agree with.
[00:35:23] Speaker C: Who do you all put a shady.
Okay.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: I think he's going to be beating.
[00:35:27] Speaker A: This year because you was on the yoke.
[00:35:29] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:35:29] Speaker B: All right.
[00:35:30] Speaker C: That is. That's one of the. That's one of the few that I will. But anyways, my point is right now.
[00:35:34] Speaker B: The best player in the NBA is Sha Nicola Jokic.
[00:35:37] Speaker C: What he is doing, I think he just had a 38 point triple double his last game. I mean, what he. The numbers he's putting up and how he is helping his team is just insane. Something we've never really ever seen from a center like that. And you know, I think that's translating to. I ain't gonna lie.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: If Shaq were to pass the ball a little more would have seen it from Shaq.
[00:35:58] Speaker C: If Shaq were to be able to shoot.
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Oh yeah, I forgot.
[00:36:02] Speaker C: Yeah. If Shaq could shoot, it'd be a. I was gonna be the best player in NBA history.
[00:36:06] Speaker B: I was gonna say we've seen it.
[00:36:07] Speaker A: Run and actually get up the court.
[00:36:10] Speaker B: Exactly. I was gonna say we've seen it three previous times. The what? The last time Nicole Yokich won MVP the other time. And then the other time. And then he might possibly win it in another time if the dude gets four MVPs. I mean, give Shay a little something.
[00:36:25] Speaker C: He. Shay deserves it.
[00:36:26] Speaker A: She definitely deserves it this year. I could see last year. He gets. He can't get snub this year.
[00:36:31] Speaker C: I don't know. I think he shouldn't have got snubbed last year. I think. I think I had Shay as the MVP last year.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: I don't know. It was close. It was really close. Because like, you don't want to see a guy get three over a guy with none. But then you don't want a whole other Joel Embiid controversy, you know what I mean? Because we were really talking about that that year.
[00:36:48] Speaker A: Man, you did that to himself, bro. I'm going to lie. He's the one who created that narrative by saying, oh, like that was him. I like he did that. You know how the media is. They ran with it, bro. All that aside, politics aside, let's. Let's talk about just pure hoopage. The only two people that's in the conversation, MVP wise is like we already said Shay and Y. I agree because you can try to throw Tatum in there. He's not in the conversation. I'm be honest.
[00:37:12] Speaker C: He's not.
[00:37:13] Speaker A: Between those two, it's just level.
[00:37:14] Speaker B: I would say the third is probably going to be Giannis.
[00:37:17] Speaker C: I would say Giannis.
[00:37:18] Speaker B: I would say Giannis. But I mean those two are in the league of their own. Shay and Yokich right now. You mentioned what Yokage is putting. Absolutely, we know what Shay's putting up. I mean, yeah, they're in the league of their own.
[00:37:29] Speaker A: I think it honestly comes down to like what team? Because even I don't know if you make that argument about what team has the better outcome.
OKC was like number one last season.
[00:37:39] Speaker C: They were.
Exactly.
[00:37:41] Speaker A: I mean they were tied with the Nuggets and they were tied with one more team. I forgot the team, but it was a three way tie. Remember last playoffs it was.
[00:37:49] Speaker C: It was the. It was the Timberwolves, it was the Thunder and it was the Nuggets. They were all tied.
[00:37:55] Speaker B: It was pretty. It was really competitive in the west and it's still. Well, it's not as competitive this year because there's a lot of teams with clear cushions and stuff. Now the east on the other hand, looks to be a little bit more competitive. But anyways, going to stand out players right now. Currently, today the east is more competitive in the West. Yes.
[00:38:16] Speaker A: Oh, that's debatable.
[00:38:18] Speaker B: No, by the records. Look, dude, you gotta look at the record.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: We gotta debate that, man, because star power. We gotta talk about star power too.
[00:38:24] Speaker B: No, I'm saying just like based off their comp.
[00:38:27] Speaker C: Oh, record base. Yes, but I, I agree with what you're saying.
[00:38:29] Speaker B: No, I'm saying talent wise, if we're going. Talent.
[00:38:32] Speaker A: Yeah, that's all I was saying.
[00:38:33] Speaker B: I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, don't get me wrong.
[00:38:36] Speaker A: Who is. The east have Giannis. What? Tatum and Jalen Brunson. That's about it. And be. He's in the win.
[00:38:41] Speaker B: Man, you are getting people pausing the video again. Guy, you are just like. I got to explain. No, guys, Evan Mobley is not better than Giannis Ajakumbo. Come on. Okay, Anyways, standout players. Got to go to standout players. I mean, I know they've been losing.
I mean, they've just been losing. They're atrocious. They're one of the worst teams in basketball right now. But Trey Murphy has been hooping. He has been averaging, I mean, nearly 23 a night. I mean, if we count last week versus Celtics and then I think it was on Friday, I believe. And then this Monday, he had 41 points back to back, 40 point games. Basically, what I'm trying to say. And then versus the Nuggets the other night, he had 25. I mean, this guy is shooting 47% from the field, 38% from three. I mean, coming out of injury, this guy looks really, really good. And one of the promising pieces in New Orleans, especially due to their, you know, falling apart for Cooper flag. I know my roommate is a New Orleans Pelicans fan, and he just. All he wants is either Dylan Harper and the man Coop. That's. That's his dreams right now.
[00:39:52] Speaker C: So I don't blame him.
You want to go, Trey? Or I'll. I'll say my standout player. And I know he's kind of like, okay, yeah, you really. You're naming this guy. But I think it's worth noting that SGA has scored 50 points three times in his last seven games, and it's insane. And what he's doing, including one against the Suns.
[00:40:16] Speaker B: So, you know, last night.
[00:40:17] Speaker C: Last night. So it's. It's just what he's doing for his team. And he makes it look so easy. Like watching him play is so fun because he makes it look so effortless and his team around him and telling y'all, watch out, watch out, man. The Thunder, they're coming.
[00:40:33] Speaker B: They're tough, dude. So, Trey, you got a standout player?
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Actually, no, not this week, man.
[00:40:40] Speaker B: You don't got one this week?
[00:40:42] Speaker A: No, not like a specific. I was more so focused on teams this week. I wasn't really like, you know.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, everybody sucked.
[00:40:48] Speaker A: This because, man, the trade, the Trade news, man, that messed me up.
[00:40:54] Speaker B: True.
[00:40:54] Speaker A: There's a lot about some of the trades.
[00:40:57] Speaker B: I mean, there's just. Yeah, there's so much. We can literally go over Kyle Kuzma. We'd even talk about that going to the Bucks. Chris Middleton's just gonna. Him and Marcus Smart are just absolutely gonna waste away in Washington. I'm sorry for him.
Trey didn't know that.
[00:41:16] Speaker C: Trey did not. That was so. We just. We just broke up. We just broke a trade. We just broke a trade.
[00:41:22] Speaker A: That was a wo. Bomb, y'all. Look.
That was a woe.
[00:41:28] Speaker B: Shout out. Whoa.
[00:41:29] Speaker C: If y'all. If y'all. I know y'all couldn't see, but if y'all could have seen Trey's face whenever Zach said that, it was priceless.
[00:41:36] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. Yes. Let's go to the Buck straight. What do you think about that? First reactions, bro.
[00:41:42] Speaker A: I ain't gonna lie now. Thinking about just Kyle Kuza when he locks in the hoops. I ain't gonna lie. That's scary. But if he's trying to like.
[00:41:48] Speaker C: But it's Kyle Kuzma.
[00:41:49] Speaker A: Yeah. I'm gonna say it's inconsistent still, though, depends on the night.
[00:41:52] Speaker B: I mean, he's been taking a backseat to Jordan pool this year, which is kind of like a reverse of last year. Honestly.
[00:41:58] Speaker A: That's a way better Chris Middleton, though. I'm not even gonna lie. No, not. Well. Hold on. Okay, hold on, hold on. That's too far. Too far. He's not a way better Chris Middleton.
[00:42:05] Speaker B: But I mean, like a.
[00:42:06] Speaker A: Like younger. You get a younger Chris Middleton if that makes.
[00:42:09] Speaker B: You could defend that now. Because Chris Middleton, if we're going back to the past, I mean, a lot of people forget. I forgot too. He's a three time all star.
[00:42:17] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:42:18] Speaker B: Chris Middleton. I mean, he just.
[00:42:19] Speaker C: He's very injury prone too.
[00:42:21] Speaker B: And he's just kind of just. I don't know.
[00:42:23] Speaker C: He's so random. Like, there will be one random Tuesday in February where he'll score like 50 points and then he goes right back the next game to being Chris Middleton.
[00:42:34] Speaker B: Or the last playoffs where, you know, the Pacer series did. Where they had nobody. Dame and Giannis were both hurt and Chris Middleton just like forces it to ot.
[00:42:43] Speaker C: Exactly. But then he just goes back to Khris Middleton the next game.
[00:42:47] Speaker B: I remember watching that game live and just going, oh my gosh, Chris Middleton. What are you doing? Like, this guy is like, yeah, but now he's going to Washington, so. And now they got a dynamic or a Trio. Big three. Marcus Smart, Chris Middleton, and Jordan Pool.
[00:43:03] Speaker C: I just don't think that's a big three.
[00:43:04] Speaker B: But that's a big three right there. What do you think about that, Trey? Come on, tell me about that big three. Chris Middleton, Marcus Smart, and Jordan Pool. Who's beating that team?
[00:43:15] Speaker A: Wait, Jordan Pools on the Bucks, too?
[00:43:17] Speaker B: No, I'm talking about.
[00:43:18] Speaker A: Oh, I was about to say, bro, I ain't gonna lie. Look, bro, y'all can't flustered that. That big three. That's a whole lot of dysfunction. Because first of all, yeah, we need to get some baddies on on the court side for pool to play. Good.
[00:43:29] Speaker B: Okay, guys, we're. We're not about that on the podcast.
[00:43:33] Speaker A: Hey, man. Kim Kardashian, pull up courtside so George Poole can drop a Hunted.
[00:43:37] Speaker B: My gosh.
Well, that's probably going to be the title of the today's episode.
[00:43:42] Speaker C: What? Trade might as well be fitting. End fitting. End of the episode right there.
[00:43:46] Speaker A: Okay. Vs. Jordan Poole to drop 150 points in the Garden.
[00:43:50] Speaker B: He Lowkey has been going off this season and he says he should have been an All Star.
[00:43:57] Speaker C: I think just their team being 6 and 37 is what tanks it. But you never know.
[00:44:03] Speaker A: I mean, just the stigma. Like, bro Pool can't even go in public without getting reminded of the punch he got from Draymond. So I. I mean, that wouldn't like, have an effect, like, I guess, on the decision if he were to, you know, make All Star. But at the same time, we do know politics plays a big role in it.
[00:44:18] Speaker C: Absolutely.
[00:44:19] Speaker B: He's averaging 20 a game. Basically 40% from the field, 38 from three.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: But how many shots does he take in the game, though? Because I've seen games where he's put up, like, at least 30 shots, and.
[00:44:28] Speaker B: It'S like, only hit, like, on average, from what I'm seeing from recent games, it's like an average of like 15 shots.
All right, that's going to do it for today's episode. I mean, you all got anything to say before we head out?
[00:44:41] Speaker A: Lakers and five, who.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: No respect. Respectfully, that's not happening.
[00:44:48] Speaker A: Sons are going nowhere.
[00:44:48] Speaker C: Sorry for the thing. I can't. I can't. I can't lie. I can't even talk anything to you because The Suns are 25 and 25 and looking to be even worse than that by the end of the season. So I'll say this. I'll say right now, OKC is going to win it all.
And yes, absolutely, they are. They're going to beat Boston. And I'll also say that the Suns lost the trade deadline. I already said that.
[00:45:19] Speaker B: If I have to give my unbiased.
[00:45:21] Speaker C: Opinion, Cleveland, the Suns may not even make the playoffs. I'll end with that.
[00:45:25] Speaker B: Yeah, Trey. Yeah.
[00:45:26] Speaker A: All are insane.
[00:45:27] Speaker B: I said it. Cleveland.
[00:45:29] Speaker A: Who you Nicks, bro.
[00:45:32] Speaker C: There's no word.
[00:45:33] Speaker A: I'm playing. I'm playing a whole other episode of.
[00:45:35] Speaker B: Just us going over this. We're supposed to wrap up.
[00:45:38] Speaker A: But I'm not gonna lie, though. While I was just trolling and trolling the answer. For the East, Knicks can make a run, but for the west, first of all, I'm gonna stick to the Lakers every time.
[00:45:46] Speaker C: Well, of course.
[00:45:46] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, there you go. Unbiased, Trey. Yeah, exactly. Come on.
[00:45:51] Speaker A: Try shout out New York, man.
[00:45:55] Speaker B: Well, that's gonna do it. I'm your host, Zachary Elrod, and yeah, that's going to do it. You're listening.
[00:46:01] Speaker A: Other host, Trey Simpson and your other other and your.
[00:46:04] Speaker C: And your favorite host, Drew Lloyd.
[00:46:06] Speaker A: I don't know about that one. But anyway, we'll catch y'all on the next episode.
Y'all have a good night.
[00:46:13] Speaker C: Yep, absolutely. Go, Sons.
[00:46:15] Speaker B: You are listening to WVUAFM 90.7, the Capstone's NBA student section. And we're out. Peace.
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