Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: W VUA FM tuscaloosa.
[00:00:14] Speaker B: You are listening to the Spooky section tonight on WVUA 90.7, the Capstone.
[00:00:21] Speaker C: Well done. Well done.
[00:00:22] Speaker B: Oh, you liked it?
[00:00:23] Speaker A: Thank you. I mean, dude, I'm I'm shaking right now.
[00:00:25] Speaker B: Chills.
[00:00:26] Speaker C: It was kind of scary.
[00:00:28] Speaker B: Thanks, guys. I was kind of anxious going into.
[00:00:31] Speaker A: That, but you rocked that. That was awesome.
[00:00:33] Speaker C: It was fitting for Halloween night.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: I appreciate it. Well, first of all, happy Halloween to you guys. I hope you guys are all doing well. Thanks, man. First of all, let's just go ahead and get it started. Let's give it up for Tanner.
[00:00:45] Speaker A: Ladies and gentlemen, the Carolina Panthers have won a football game. I think that's probably the most significant news that I think we have on this show for today.
For a while there, I was starting to ignore that. Connor. For a while, I was starting to forget what it was like to win an NFL football game. So I'm glad we got it done. After watching six losses, not all of them painful. Some were painful, but we got a win. And if I might bring this up again, I did kind of call this win.
[00:01:16] Speaker C: You did call it week.
[00:01:18] Speaker A: I said, this is the win. This is where we get it. I was very confident, and as we can tell, I was confident for a reason.
[00:01:24] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm surprised, honestly. I mean, first of all, congratulations to Bryce Young, Alabama alumni, just getting his first win in the NFL.
[00:01:31] Speaker A: That's huge. Outplayed CJ stroud.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: He did. He did.
[00:01:34] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:01:34] Speaker B: Someone believe me if I'm wrong. I mean, excuse me if I'm wrong. Wow. I said that.
[00:01:38] Speaker A: Believe you if you're wrong. I don't want to believe you if.
[00:01:40] Speaker B: You'Re wrong, but aren't they, like, close? Like childhood best friends or something?
[00:01:45] Speaker A: Yeah, they played a lot of AAU ball together. They've had the same quarterback coach for a long time, but, yeah, they have been around each other for a very long time.
[00:01:54] Speaker B: That's kind of cool. Especially to get your first win against your best friend.
[00:01:57] Speaker A: That's cool.
[00:01:58] Speaker B: But I'm actually kind of surprised that the Panthers didn't make a move during the deadline, and that's kind of what I want to get into a little bit today. Today we had the tread the trade deadline go on, and I'm curious to know let's go ahead and call this trick or treat.
Have you guys like the trade? It's a treat.
[00:02:15] Speaker C: Okay.
[00:02:16] Speaker B: All right.
[00:02:16] Speaker C: I like that. I like it.
[00:02:17] Speaker B: I would try to make it if.
[00:02:18] Speaker A: I don't like the trade.
[00:02:20] Speaker C: Wait, it's a trick.
I get it now.
[00:02:25] Speaker A: I didn't get it before. Okay. Sorry. Keep going.
[00:02:27] Speaker B: All right, so basically we're going to just name off some things where you guys just want to come in with something high. That a move that you liked. Feel free. But I'm going to go ahead and get started off with I think it's probably, like, the biggest name that happened today. Chase young going to the 49 ers. No longer on the Commanders. We saw him battling with injury, come back, rehabbing, ACL. I think it's been over like, a year now, starting to get back into his routine. But the Commanders, their new ownership, it seems like they're done with Chase Young, and they're shipping him to the 49 ers, where he can play on the other side of his former college teammate, Nick Bosa. So how do we feel about that move? And I feel like it's a pretty good move if you're 49 ers.
[00:03:05] Speaker A: Right?
[00:03:05] Speaker C: It is a good move.
When I first saw that, I was like, wow, okay. Maybe the 49 ers can get some kind of pass rush this season, because so far this season with Steve Wilkes, nick Bosa has done nothing. Javon Hargrave has been very underwhelming. Eric Armstead has done nothing. And you just have all these other randoms, like Drake what's his name? Drake Jackson, something like that.
[00:03:28] Speaker A: Something like that.
[00:03:28] Speaker C: It's just like guys who get no pressure. That defense has been getting bullied the last three weeks, and getting a guy like Chase Young is going to be nice, but I don't really feel like I think people are really overreacting to what this move means.
[00:03:41] Speaker A: That's fair. I think that that line needs talent. Of course it needs big. That's a big part of it. They need talent.
I do think the way that this line has been performing all season really speaks to D'Amico Ryan's as a coach. Man, that guy truly I really think that he is going to be a really great coach for a very long time.
And again, I think surface level doesn't make sense for a defensive line to underperform with a different defensive coordinator.
Again, surface level, it's just you would think, oh, these are big guys on the line. If they're strong enough and they're big enough and they're good at football enough and they can get through the line and they can do this. But that's not exactly football has one of the more complicated sports ever. So with Chase Youngman, it's a good pickup. The guy is physically incredibly gifted.
Great get off.
He's a big dude. Very strong, fast, pretty good bend. I think if he really does want to take his career to the next level where people thought his career would go, he's got to develop some kind of bag of pass rush moves. That's not really his strength right now, but hopefully that can be done with Steve Wilkes, I don't really know.
[00:04:57] Speaker B: And that's the thing we were talking about last week. I know we talked about Steve Wilkes just to it a little bit, but as we talked about, he's been struggling for the 49 ers. They've lost their identity from that defensive team. I want to say pass rushing team, right. Their best player that they just signed to a huge extension in, Nick Bosa only has three sacks on a year it's clear to me, I mentioned last year, I mean, not last year, last week, that it's given kind of a Jonathan Gannon soft coverage kind of defense and there's no pass.
[00:05:26] Speaker C: So yeah, and I think that's the reason they're not getting home to any sacks, because everybody's playing so off that it's easy, just quick dumps. There's no just force out in the secondary. Last year we were talking about Demiko Ryan's and how it would make no sense, but if the coverage isn't very uptight, nobody's open, then the pass rush has a chance to actually get to the quarterback.
[00:05:49] Speaker A: But the bend don't break mentality doesn't really work that well in the NFL, especially with how creative run games are now. You have to have guys in the box and especially, I mean, even thinking about the like, you know, that is a team that is defined by getting playmakers the ball in space with guys in front of them. That's what that offense essentially is, if nothing else. And that's what a lot of teams are emulating this year. And to keep playing that bent and don't break, like, man, they are going to keep getting yards on you no matter what. And that showed in the past three games, man. There's a reason that they've lost three games in a row and it's not entirely on the defense. But I do want to say real quick that Steve Wilkes was supposed to be the answer for Carolina. So this makes me feel a little bit better know, I still believe in Frank Reich as a.
[00:06:36] Speaker B: Mean. It's like, I mean, yeah, they're getting more talent, but like we mentioned, if Steve Wilkes doesn't know how to utilize this talent, then pretty much was it worth it? I mean, for the Commanders, though, it's kind of interesting. Like you get a third round pick out of it. You also say goodbye to your other defensive end in Montez Sweat.
[00:06:54] Speaker C: Right, but they got a second round pick from Montez Sweat.
[00:06:57] Speaker B: Right. Which is crazy because Chase Young was the second overall.
[00:07:01] Speaker A: I mean, it's wild, man.
[00:07:03] Speaker B: Kind of crazy. I just think that goes to show that the new ownership for the Commanders, they have their sight set on something way different from when Snyder absolutely.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: I sure would hope so.
[00:07:14] Speaker C: From what?
[00:07:15] Speaker B: Like Magic Johnson, baby.
[00:07:17] Speaker C: What everybody's been giving up for these pass rushers and stuff like that. It looks to me like they weren't really high on Chase Young. No, I mean, he was very injury prone. He took a while to come back.
[00:07:29] Speaker A: He did.
[00:07:30] Speaker C: It was almost like he wasn't really taking the rehab serious. It looked know he was just sitting on the sideline for almost a year.
I know what he tore his ACL correct? Am I correct? Yeah, but I saw a thing. It's a six to eight month recovery. He was out for at least almost nearly two seasons.
[00:07:47] Speaker A: Yeah, seems like.
[00:07:48] Speaker C: And then when he gets back on the field, it just looks like he's I don't want to say takes some plays off, but he definitely doesn't go as hard as he needs to be to be an actual reoccurring presence on the football field.
[00:07:58] Speaker A: Right.
[00:07:59] Speaker C: So maybe the 49 Ers can unlock his insane potential, but we'll see. I don't know.
[00:08:06] Speaker A: Doesn't seem like the coach you say right now is the guy to do it.
[00:08:09] Speaker C: Yeah, exactly. You know who is the guy to do?
Sean Desai.
[00:08:18] Speaker A: Sean Desai?
[00:08:19] Speaker B: I mean, I like Sean Desai.
[00:08:21] Speaker C: It was all jokes. I just wanted to bring it to Philadelphia somehow.
[00:08:24] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. I get that.
[00:08:25] Speaker A: Why wouldn't we?
[00:08:26] Speaker B: Well, now that we have our Dolphins fan back, let's get his perspective. Evan, how are you feeling?
[00:08:30] Speaker D: I'm feeling great.
[00:08:31] Speaker B: It's good to have you back in the studio. I know you weren't feeling too well last week, but I know you missed the showdown between Connor. Connor was looking for your little back.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: I kind of played role over don't.
[00:08:41] Speaker C: He was dodging. But it's all good.
[00:08:44] Speaker B: It's good to have you. But so let me ask you, what are your thoughts on this Chase Young trade?
[00:08:49] Speaker D: On the Chase Young trade? I mean, we obviously haven't seen too much from him since he has been out for so long. But I do remember his rookie season and even into his early career, whenever he would get in, there were some plays where he was just scary.
He was definitely someone who would put fear into the quarterback size. And obviously, we have all these big names on the 49 Ers defense, and they haven't been performing up to what they're capable of, but I think there's definitely potential there and it can bring fear into an offense's eyes.
[00:09:27] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:09:28] Speaker B: If there's anyone that can make it work, it's probably Kyle Shanahan.
[00:09:31] Speaker A: Probably.
[00:09:31] Speaker B: But you don't think so?
[00:09:33] Speaker A: No.
[00:09:34] Speaker C: Kyle Shanahan, I feel, is just so overrated to me. In my opinion.
[00:09:37] Speaker A: I can't where you're coming from that.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: But I'm not a huge fan of Kyle Shannon.
[00:09:41] Speaker A: One of the niners not been a contender under Kyle Shannon.
[00:09:45] Speaker C: When have they never had all pro talent at almost every position?
[00:09:49] Speaker A: You still can't I mean, dude, you still can't blame that on not I.
[00:09:53] Speaker C: Mean, you have all this talent and you can't make it past the second round ever.
[00:09:58] Speaker D: I agree.
Kyle Shanahan actually achieved and then when.
[00:10:02] Speaker C: He does make it past the second round, he blows a 21 point lead in this exactly. Super bowl or in the conference championship.
[00:10:08] Speaker A: Listen, I mean, football football is weird.
[00:10:10] Speaker B: Super bowl twice.
[00:10:11] Speaker A: Football is weird. But Kyle Shanahan still has been in charge of one of the best regular season.
[00:10:19] Speaker C: Regular season doesn't like that doesn't add.
[00:10:23] Speaker A: Anything to for me. It doesn't add anything to it. If you are coaching a good football team and you are coaching a good football team and they are getting to like last season what do you expect them to do when they have zero quarterbacks at play? Rock Purdy couldn't throw a ball.
[00:10:37] Speaker C: Don't put a backup tight end on Hassan Reddick. That's the thing.
[00:10:41] Speaker A: That's part dude, I understand his scheme.
[00:10:44] Speaker C: Is just it's not good.
[00:10:46] Speaker A: His scheme is not you can't say his scheme's not good.
[00:10:50] Speaker C: Not scheme for like that, but just to keep people healthy.
All the gimmicks and all the pulls and all that kind of stuff.
[00:10:55] Speaker A: All the gimmicks. That's modern football is what you're talking about. It's motions and it's pulling guards and.
[00:11:01] Speaker C: Bringing the full back, keeping somebody healthy. Rock Purdy's out. What's his name? Johnson's out. Trey Lance is out.
[00:11:07] Speaker B: Jimmy Garoppolo is out.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Jimmy Garoppolo is out.
[00:11:11] Speaker C: Under his tenure.
[00:11:12] Speaker A: Under their entire tenure.
Don't get me wrong.
They run a physical kind of football. That's what they run. And maybe you can blame the assignments on who gets put where, but at the end of the day, this is a run first offense with guys who their main talents are. I don't want to say main talents, but I mean in terms of lead blockers, man, you have Kyle Yuschek, you have George Kittle, you have Trent Williams. These guys are designed to be out in space and give the playmakers some room. And now they have Christian McCaffrey. And I mean, don't get me wrong, they're on three losses, which does suck. But Kyle Shanahan has produced a really good football team every single year. And you can't like to say the scheme is bad.
[00:11:56] Speaker C: I'm not saying the scheme is bad.
[00:11:57] Speaker A: That's what you said.
[00:11:58] Speaker C: No, not scheme is bad for production. I'm just saying there's a lot of injuries underneath that scheme just by who blocks who.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Right. But I think that is because it is a mobile and run heavy offense. I don't think the players do you think the players are confronting Kyle Shanahan about this and be like, hey, man, we can't do this?
[00:12:16] Speaker C: Debo literally said came out and said, I don't really feel like playing a running back and wide receiver role.
[00:12:21] Speaker A: He wanted to he called himself a wide back when he came into the NFL. I think that was a huge part.
[00:12:26] Speaker C: Of he requested a trade because he didn't want to do it.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: I think that was more if because he was using that to negotiate a contract.
[00:12:32] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly.
[00:12:33] Speaker B: But he did say that, to your point. He did say that.
[00:12:36] Speaker A: Yeah. But I think he said that because he wanted to get paid.
[00:12:38] Speaker B: This is the time where clubs and they were putting on, like the James Harden thing. They were putting on the signs in the club.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: Yeah. I don't think that was him disagreeing with how the scheme is run. He knew what his role was, and that is how he advertised himself coming.
[00:12:51] Speaker B: He knew what his role was in that scheme.
[00:12:53] Speaker A: Exactly.
[00:12:53] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: And that is a little like he called himself, oh, I'm a wide back in the draft process when he was going to San Francisco.
[00:12:59] Speaker B: But to your point, that's probably why he wanted to get paid, because he knows it's a much more physically demanding scheme, if that makes sense.
[00:13:05] Speaker A: Sure, yeah, if you are a wide receiver who puts himself in danger more often, absolutely.
But that's not him saying, oh, this scheme sucks. It's just him saying pay me more because of what I contribute to this offense, which is completely fair. I can't argue that at all from Devo Samuel's perspective, but I mean, I'd have to go look at it. But the Niners have finished near the top of the know almost every year when Kyle Shanahan has been the head coach of that football team. So to say he is mean, especially in comparison to what the league is doing know, just overall with how a lot of teams have just head coach Carousels every year, you can't say that this is an overrated or a bad coach.
[00:13:46] Speaker C: I'm not saying he's a bad coach. I'm just saying a lot of people want to say he's one of the best coaches, he's a top ten coach, maybe top five.
[00:13:55] Speaker A: Give me nine head coaches, you can knock me nine head coaches better than Kyle Shanahan.
[00:14:00] Speaker B: I'm going to say he's definitely, probably.
[00:14:02] Speaker A: Like in my top three. Top three got him. Three has to be.
[00:14:05] Speaker C: He's definitely top.
[00:14:06] Speaker A: You can say you can have Reed, you can have Belichick and you can have Pete Carroll.
[00:14:13] Speaker C: Yeah, maybe Pete Carroll.
[00:14:15] Speaker A: I mean, in terms of recently, I think you have to go Kyle Shanahan.
[00:14:19] Speaker B: But even recently, look what Carroll's done.
[00:14:22] Speaker A: That's fair. I'm not putting him above Kyle Shanahan, but he has to be in that conversation of top four, five.
[00:14:28] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: But yeah, I think Kyle Shannon is a confidently top three coach in the league.
[00:14:32] Speaker C: I just think when it all comes down to it, you look every week, I mean, you still have Debo Samuels already still out. Trent Williams is out right now. You look at last year, nick Bosa was out for a while. You look at all these types of players, all their best players.
[00:14:47] Speaker A: Nick Bosa plays defense for wanting.
[00:14:49] Speaker C: I'm not saying that. I'm just saying there's always an injury on that team.
[00:14:52] Speaker B: I'm not saying because I can't blame injuries, but also it's like to me it's like the same point, kind of like that situation, that narrative where if you're a Tom Thibodeau of NBA coach and you have Derek Rose and the Bulls way back in 2012, all your players are getting injured. And like, from joking Noah to Derek Rose to, like, Kirk Heinrich to Lu Al Dang. All those players are getting injured. And a lot of fans were speculating it's because Tom Thibodeau has a record of playing players way too long.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Too long.
[00:15:19] Speaker B: I mean, Jimmy Butler under his tenure, I think, played literally like that NBA Finals game never took a break. So I kind of see where you're coming from, Connor. It's definitely an interesting conversation. As much as I love to talk about the 49 ers, I feel like I should keep it moving. But I mentioned Pete Carroll. And speaking of Pete Carroll, he just made a move. The Seahawks just also made a move. Leonard Williams from the New York Giants is headed over to the Seahawks. I just got to get your guys reaction. They're speaking of a team that's in.
[00:15:50] Speaker A: The 49 ers division, too, right. I like that pickup a lot, man. Leonard Williams is a really good defensive tackle, man. He's a really good player. And could you remind me what the trade does anybody remember?
[00:16:01] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm looking at I can get.
[00:16:04] Speaker A: You just give me regardless, though.
[00:16:06] Speaker C: I know it was like a second round pick.
[00:16:07] Speaker A: Yeah, it was something like that. Regardless, that is a really good addition. That is something that defense is lacking. I can't remember I thought that they would go Brian Proceed last year in the draft because they needed a lot of help in that interior defensive lineman area. I cannot remember off the top of my head if they still went interior a good interior defensive lineman at some point in the draft. Obviously, they started out with Devin Witherspoon early on and Jackson Smith and Jigba, but they absolutely needed help on the interior defensive line, and Leonard Williams is a huge pickup for that.
[00:16:37] Speaker C: So I just looked it up. They got a 2024 2nd round pick and a 2025 5th round pick.
[00:16:44] Speaker A: I think it's a good I think.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: It'S a win win.
[00:16:46] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:16:46] Speaker C: Because, I mean, for a 29 year old Leonard Williams, he's still a great defender in this league, but to get a second round pick for him, that.
[00:16:53] Speaker A: Second rounder is valuable.
[00:16:54] Speaker C: It's impressive.
Very valuable.
[00:16:57] Speaker B: So what do you think is more impressive? I'm not going to not to compare two moves, but where would you rank them? So you have Jason, Leonard Williams and Montess Wet.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: Just because Leonard Williams is the best player. I think I would probably go Leonard Williams trade at it's a it's like a significant need that the other team.
[00:17:18] Speaker D: Has, in my opinion.
[00:17:19] Speaker A: So I think I'd have to go him at one, even though it is for a second and a fifth. But Leonard Williams still a really good defensive tackle. But yeah, them at one. I mean, I don't know.
[00:17:29] Speaker C: I'll probably say Chase Young at two just because they got it for a third round pick.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:34] Speaker B: So you're not a fan of the Montez sweat move? It sounds like it's okay.
[00:17:38] Speaker C: No, I love the Montez sweat move, but I'm just saying trading a second for Montez Sweat when you traded a third for Chase Young, I feel like it's just a better deal.
[00:17:48] Speaker A: Yeah. Also, it's the Bears getting Montez sweat, so it's not the Bears aren't contending. The Seahawks kind of have a chance this year. Have a chance. But you know what I mean? They're a better football team.
[00:17:58] Speaker C: I honestly think this is a legitimate addition.
[00:17:59] Speaker B: And I don't know if you guys remember my preseason show, my NFC contender was the Seahawks. I said, wow, that's remember when they had just beat the was like, I'm pretty high on the Seahawks, and I'm not patting myself on the back, but I'm just saying, definitely you can do that.
[00:18:14] Speaker A: I did that for, like, just a little bit, a full minute at the beginning of the show. We did give you a round of applause.
[00:18:19] Speaker C: So I do want to say after this trade, honestly, I could see the Seahawks winning the NSE West.
[00:18:25] Speaker B: After this trade.
[00:18:26] Speaker C: Yeah, after this trade. I mean, the 49 ers defense has.
[00:18:28] Speaker A: Looked 49 ers got to kick it in gear, man.
[00:18:30] Speaker C: 49 ers defense looked terrible, and their offense without Debo Samuel and Trent Williams are just horrific. Brock Purdy is coming back to his Mr. Irrelevant form.
[00:18:42] Speaker A: That's crazy.
When was his Mr. Irrelevant form exactly?
[00:18:46] Speaker C: He's been in college.
[00:18:48] Speaker A: He was good at Iowa State.
[00:18:50] Speaker C: Why was he drafted last?
I'm just saying, he was playing amazing football the first season, then start the season. He was a little bit I wouldn't say the same level.
[00:19:03] Speaker A: A little bit mean. People were talking about Brock Purdy MVP for a second.
[00:19:06] Speaker C: I know, but you could see there was something like, okay, it was a little bit slower.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: I knew it wasn't a sustained I at least knew that wasn't a sustainable MVP race for Brock Purdy pretty confidently. But that does speak to Kyle Shanahan as a coach, by the way. But anyway, regardless now, I think he's.
[00:19:27] Speaker C: More of a Jimmy Garoppolo type of player now. The guy he a little bit better than Jimmy Garoppolo, I would say.
[00:19:33] Speaker A: He did take his yeah, well, I.
[00:19:36] Speaker B: Mean, I know we've had a great discussion, and I know the energy has been high, and we're going to keep it going right after this break. But before we go, I just want to break down a little bit more of news that happened during this trade deadline. The Bills traded for packers cornerback Rasul Douglas.
[00:19:50] Speaker C: I'm a fan of that.
[00:19:51] Speaker B: Yeah, that's a nice move.
[00:19:52] Speaker A: I saw a pickup.
[00:19:53] Speaker B: It's so weird how he was so.
[00:19:54] Speaker C: Not working with the Eagles because we used him poorly. We had him. He was a safety for us. And then he switched to cornerback, which was his position in college, and all of a sudden, he's played well. He played good football, believe it or not.
[00:20:06] Speaker A: Whoa.
[00:20:07] Speaker B: Well, no surprise there, because that just always happens to the Eagles.
You're six and one, man.
[00:20:17] Speaker A: Seven and one.
[00:20:17] Speaker B: Looking back, do you understand that we.
[00:20:20] Speaker A: Have almost inverse records right now? You guys need to think about that when you're talking about the Eagles. Sometimes you need man, I'm not satisfied.
[00:20:27] Speaker B: I mean, all these 49 ers are still making moves, but we're still making moves, too. But keep it going. The vikings also made a move. Kirk cousins, who's now out, unfortunately, for the year with a torn Achilles. Brutal, man. The vikings just traded for Joshua dobbs now who was once backing up Kyler Murray. There's reports that Kyler Murray is getting back and getting reincorporated. reincorporated? Reincoup?
[00:20:48] Speaker A: Reincorporated in the offense?
[00:20:49] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't know.
[00:20:51] Speaker A: Recuperated it's. recuperated or reincorporated into the offense, I think.
[00:20:55] Speaker B: Okay, so either one was acceptable.
[00:20:57] Speaker A: Yeah, you did. Half equals 100. Half and half of each. We got the full word out there. Close enough.
[00:21:05] Speaker B: With that being said, I think there's a lot of more moves that we can take a look at, but right now, we're going to go to break. Thank you for listening to the student section on WVUA 90.7 keys.
And we are back. You are listening to the spooky section.
[00:21:47] Speaker A: Was that dracula.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: It was my best attempt.
[00:21:50] Speaker A: I don't know that's I guessed it.
[00:21:52] Speaker C: I got there, so it wasn't terrible.
[00:21:54] Speaker B: I could have gone for, like, a werewolf jalen.
[00:21:57] Speaker C: It was amazing. I knew it was Dracula right away.
[00:22:00] Speaker A: Connor's being a jerk, man. Jeez.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: I mean, do you think? No surprise to get, like, a callback.
[00:22:07] Speaker A: Guaranteed.
[00:22:08] Speaker B: Honestly, just a little bit. Anyway, so let's get back to talking some NFL football here. We had a lot of good games past this past weekend, but let's talk about the primetime games, the raiders versus the lions games. Just give me your thoughts, your takeaways about that fantasy. If you're a fantasy owner of Jamar Gibbs. Jamir Gibbs? Excuse me. You must be ecstatic with how he performed over this week.
[00:22:29] Speaker C: And if you're an owner of Devontae Adams, you must hate life right now.
[00:22:33] Speaker B: Yeah, it's pretty bad for Devontae Adams. But overall, what's your thoughts?
[00:22:39] Speaker C: Jimmy Garoppolo might be one of the worst quarterbacks I've ever laid my eyes on. Ever laid your eyes on after watching last night there.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: You mean is it Jimmy g or.
[00:22:48] Speaker B: Is it I mean, it's definitely parts of it.
[00:22:53] Speaker C: I don't think Josh McDaniels makes Jimmy G overthrow Devontae Adams wide open.
Definitely Josh McDaniels, too.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: But, yeah, I'm still not a Josh McDaniels fan by any stance. But you can't excuse some of the balls that Jimmy Garoppolo threw that game.
[00:23:11] Speaker C: That pick six was pretty disgusting.
[00:23:13] Speaker A: Yeah, you just can't and picks are weird in football. You never really know whose fault it.
[00:23:19] Speaker C: Is, but you knew it was.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: Mean. Also a big clue to that is Devontae Adams after the game, like, genuinely being speechless. That is insane to me.
[00:23:32] Speaker B: Good thing there was not another cameraman in his presence.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: That is true. God knows what happened to that cameraman if he was in his path.
[00:23:39] Speaker C: I think there's a lot of people who agree with Tanner who's not a big Josh McDaniels fan, and I know one of them is definitely Devontae Adams and probably Hunter renfro as well, probably.
[00:23:48] Speaker A: Oh, I know. It's Hunter Renfro. Man Whatever. What even happened to that guy?
[00:23:52] Speaker C: He was like, all right, I'm not.
[00:23:53] Speaker A: Sure Hunter Renfro exists anymore.
[00:23:55] Speaker C: No, I was like I was waiting for Hunter Renfro to pop up on my deadline day.
[00:23:58] Speaker A: Maybe locked in a basement somewhere, man. I'm not entirely free.
[00:24:01] Speaker B: Hunter Renfro. For real, honestly. But that Josh Jacobs quote. What was it?
[00:24:06] Speaker C: It was, oh, how do you think you can fix the offense? That's not my problem.
[00:24:10] Speaker A: That's not my problem. Did that really happen?
[00:24:13] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:24:13] Speaker A: That's actually happened? Yes.
[00:24:15] Speaker B: That's how bad it is over there.
[00:24:16] Speaker C: That's not my problem.
[00:24:18] Speaker B: That's how bad it is over there.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Oh, my God.
[00:24:21] Speaker B: I think Mark Davis has got to step in. I mean, there's reports or rumors that they can't fire Josh McDaniels because they're.
[00:24:27] Speaker C: Just so if they fire Josh McDaniels, they will have no money yeah. To hire a new coach.
[00:24:32] Speaker B: And this is awful. This is one of the words, awful. I don't even know how to put this in the words. This is just so bad.
[00:24:40] Speaker C: Devante Adams couldn't put it in the words last night. So yeah, pretty bad.
[00:24:44] Speaker B: You probably have the best receiver in.
[00:24:46] Speaker A: The game, or like one of definitely.
[00:24:49] Speaker B: You're just not throwing to him one.
[00:24:51] Speaker C: Catch for eleven yards when he could have had two separate touchdowns for 98 yards and what, 60 something? Yeah, but no, Jimmy G decided to overthrow him twice.
[00:25:00] Speaker A: It's brutal, man. Again, we talked about this a little bit off air, but this is not what Devante Adams signed up for. This is not at all why he came to the Raiders.
[00:25:11] Speaker B: I heard a report that apparently they didn't even want Jimmy Garoppolo. That was not their plan. Apparently they were targeting some quarterback, probably Aaron Rodgers. No, they wanted to resign. Derek Carr. That's, actually.
[00:25:22] Speaker A: Oh.
[00:25:22] Speaker C: Derek Carr. They cut Derek Carr, though, didn't they?
[00:25:24] Speaker B: I know, but I think they wanted.
[00:25:25] Speaker C: To try to better deal.
[00:25:28] Speaker A: Can't believe Aiden O'Connell isn't good enough. Why aren't they at this know they.
[00:25:34] Speaker C: Should just take a shot on Nathan Peterman at this.
[00:25:39] Speaker A: Nathan Peterman.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: So let me ask you this for the line size of things, how are we feeling? It wasn't top contender in your eyes.
[00:25:45] Speaker C: Or it wasn't a very impressive think.
[00:25:48] Speaker A: And also I think you still got to be shaken by the bad loss to the Ravens.
Very rarely do top contenders lose. What was it, three eight to that's that's brutal, man. Like, that is college football kind of scores. And this is the NFL against a team who was considered to be near the top of the NFC. And again, I don't think they exactly got their groove back against the Raiders. Obviously, it was a good win. Shout out to Jamir Gibbs. 189 yards and a touchdown.
[00:26:19] Speaker B: Jumping into the fan.
[00:26:20] Speaker A: Knock that. Exactly. You can't knock that at all.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: That woman who lifted him up, do. You think that was all her? This is just real cool.
[00:26:26] Speaker A: That'd be awesome.
But I don't know for sure, to be honest. But I hope she does. I hope she did. That would be sick.
[00:26:33] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I saw that replay and I was like, that's really impressive.
[00:26:37] Speaker A: She did that.
[00:26:38] Speaker B: But also, just from the Lions perspective, let's talk about how they also traded for Donovan Peoples Jones.
[00:26:43] Speaker A: The Lions.
[00:26:44] Speaker B: I'm huge on that 2025 six round pick. That's all it takes. Very surprising for the Browns.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: I'm very huge on Donovan people. Jones.
[00:26:51] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't think it's terribly surprising that it took a 2025 six round to get him, but they really use for that value.
We're talking about Donovan peoples. Jones.
[00:27:02] Speaker B: Man, he's not bad.
[00:27:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
Last year he was their wide receiver, too, I think.
[00:27:10] Speaker A: Yeah, he was.
[00:27:11] Speaker C: And he was still putting up good numbers.
[00:27:13] Speaker A: Yeah. I believe in him as a know in the NFL, if the guy isn't producing, it is easy to trade for.
[00:27:20] Speaker C: You know what I mean?
[00:27:21] Speaker B: Definitely limited his role big time, especially since Elijah Moore's. Come on.
[00:27:26] Speaker A: And also, I mean, the line they just cut Marvin Jones.
[00:27:29] Speaker B: He stepped away.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: No? Yeah, he stepped away from football.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: Really? There's no reason I could have swore. I thought they cut him.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: They did cut him, but it was a mutual thing. Yeah, I think he wasn't producing and he had some stuff going on off the football field, and he was like, this is not the best time.
[00:27:43] Speaker A: They could use donald Peele. Jones. He's somewhat of a bigger guy at receiver, if I remember correctly.
[00:27:47] Speaker B: Yeah, great bet.
[00:27:47] Speaker A: From what we mean. It's I think it's a really good call, especially for the current receiver roles in that team. Amin RA is a talented slot guy. Jameson Williams is a solid, deep threat. But you don't really have a guy that's big and you want on the outside. Josh Reynolds said, yeah, it's you want some, though, I guess you want somebody who can come in and offer know, maybe step up. That to have multiple sense.
[00:28:10] Speaker B: It's kind of like how the Eagles.
[00:28:11] Speaker C: Traded for signed Julio Jones, who had an insane touchdown.
[00:28:14] Speaker B: A Darva.
[00:28:16] Speaker C: He got lit up.
[00:28:18] Speaker B: My favorite part about that touchdown for Julio Jones was every single eagle came running full speed at him to hug him and celebrate him because that's how much he means to this game.
So let me ask you guys about the other game, chargers versus Bears, very short lived. I don't think there's much to take away from this game.
[00:28:37] Speaker C: Yeah. Bears are bad. Chargers are not as bad. I think that's pretty it summed it up pretty well.
[00:28:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I think you got it hit the nail on the head.
[00:28:46] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, that's pretty much all we can.
So let me ask you this. I know the Bears didn't win, but how do you feel? Does Justin Fields come back? I think they're giving Tyler bajan. bajant?
[00:28:59] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:29:00] Speaker B: Tyler Bajan.
[00:29:01] Speaker A: Is it Tyler or Tyson? Am I?
[00:29:03] Speaker C: No, it's like bajant bagant, something like that.
It's Tyson.
[00:29:10] Speaker A: Okay. He only half listened to me, but.
[00:29:13] Speaker C: I was like, oh, no, it's definitely halfway through this. His last name is definitely bajant or something.
[00:29:18] Speaker A: Yeah, that's funny.
[00:29:20] Speaker C: I thought you were saying, is it Tyler Tyson?
[00:29:22] Speaker A: I was like, it's okay, man, I'll get over.
Yeah, I mean, I think it's hard to but he's been good. Tyson bajant better than Jimmy Garoppolo do.
[00:29:35] Speaker B: What better than.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: Think that? I don't think that's unfair to say.
[00:29:40] Speaker C: I don't think it's hard to be better than Jimmy Garoppolo at this career.
[00:29:43] Speaker B: Why didn't the Raiders trade for Josh dobbs? That's what blows my mind.
[00:29:46] Speaker C: They should have.
[00:29:48] Speaker A: Yeah, that was a very realistic move they could have done.
[00:29:50] Speaker B: I don't get that. I just don't get what they're doing. But anyway, who am I to ask questions?
[00:29:53] Speaker C: Speaking of, when was it Jonathan Gannon when he came out and said that the starting quarterback will either be Kyler Murray or their Clayton? Yeah, clayton.
[00:30:04] Speaker B: Clayton.
[00:30:05] Speaker C: Where is Josh Dobbs? And now it makes sense.
[00:30:07] Speaker A: Now it makes sense because they're longer in Arizona.
[00:30:10] Speaker B: They were getting ready to ship them off. Well, since we're at the trade dentlining, we're kind of almost at the almost kind of like almost at the halfway point. We're basically at the halfway point for most teams. So let me ask you nothing, man.
[00:30:23] Speaker A: We're at the halfway point.
[00:30:24] Speaker B: We're good. You like the way I worded that?
[00:30:26] Speaker A: Very unsure of where the half point was.
[00:30:30] Speaker B: It's somewhere in this point.
[00:30:32] Speaker A: Somewhere in the next week.
[00:30:33] Speaker B: Yeah. So we're at the halfway point.
So let me ask you guys, let's revisit the contenders. Who's your favorites out of the NFC, your AFC? What teams have made some a huge jump in your book or taken a step back? I'm curious to see your opinion. Evan, let's start with you.
[00:30:49] Speaker D: I think this season has just been a real confusing one. We don't have any top contenders. Someone that you go into and you know for sure you're not going to win the game coming into the season. I thought that was the 49 ers, but we've seen what's happened to them. I think in the NFC right now, the scariest team is the eagles. That's who no one wants to play. But I think one of those little ankle biter teams that is going to.
[00:31:16] Speaker A: Rough some I'm a huge fan of the word ankle.
[00:31:24] Speaker C: Yeah, ankle biters is just such a.
[00:31:26] Speaker B: Great that's awesome, Evan. I think all of us just looked up and looked at each other.
[00:31:30] Speaker A: No, there is no joke here. I really like the use of the word ankle.
[00:31:35] Speaker C: That'd be a new thing. We should just say ankle.
[00:31:39] Speaker B: Go ahead, keep going.
[00:31:41] Speaker D: So I think one of those teams that is just going to stick around and still be good and give people trouble. I think the seahawks.
Yeah, there you go. I don't want to mess up.
[00:31:55] Speaker B: His name Leonard Williams.
[00:31:56] Speaker D: Leonard Williams. And they've had good wins. Obviously, the Lions are still a good team. They've struggled the past two weeks.
I think they're on the same tier as the Seahawks right now. So NFC, I'll say. Eagles, tier one. Seahawks. Lions, tier two. And then somewhere in somewhere is 49 Ers ankle biting. I don't know where they are right now.
[00:32:24] Speaker A: So 49 Ers are out of your top two tiers in the NFC.
[00:32:27] Speaker D: Now they're hanging in limbo.
[00:32:30] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:32:30] Speaker D: They're one of my favorite hanging in limbo.
[00:32:33] Speaker B: Man.
[00:32:33] Speaker C: What are we doing?
[00:32:36] Speaker D: They've just shown a lot of uncertainty, and I do agree with Connor that that's a team destined to fizzle out in the playoffs, and especially if they aren't doing good in the regular season, then I think that just spills doom for them.
[00:32:49] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair.
[00:32:51] Speaker C: I have a question. Where are the Cowboys in all this?
[00:32:55] Speaker B: That's a good question. The Cow.
[00:32:57] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:32:58] Speaker D: I don't know with that offense, with Dakota Prescott at dakota Prescott. I don't ever see Dakota Prescott making a Super Bowl.
[00:33:08] Speaker A: That's his name, man.
Do you not know his name was.
[00:33:18] Speaker D: I don't see them feel Super Bowl or even conference championship contender with that offense.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: What about what they just did? The Rams, though.
[00:33:30] Speaker D: They have a great defense. They really do. But in the NFL, you need a great defense, and you need a great offense.
[00:33:36] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:33:37] Speaker C: So I think we all know where my NFC contenders are. The Philadelphia Eagles. Oh, I don't think I changed.
[00:33:44] Speaker A: Really?
[00:33:45] Speaker C: I know it's surprising.
[00:33:46] Speaker A: I wouldn't have guessed that.
[00:33:47] Speaker C: But I like Seattle. I think Seattle is going to win the division. I think they're going to just be better than the 49 Ers close out the year. But I still think the 49 Ers will close the season strong just because if they get everybody healthy and they put the pieces together, they'll be the top wild card team, in my opinion. Yeah, I think the ankle biter team of the NFC would probably be low key. The I wouldn't be surprised if it's low key. The Vikings getting Justin Jefferson back soon.
[00:34:21] Speaker A: I can't say I trust that team without I mean, dude, Kirk Cousins is a good football.
[00:34:27] Speaker C: No, I'm not saying they're going to do anything, but it sounds like they're.
[00:34:30] Speaker A: Starting to get into josh Dobbs is.
[00:34:31] Speaker D: A guy who wants to win. I see where you're coming from.
[00:34:34] Speaker A: They're getting into a rhythm, but Kirk Cousins literally just he's out for the season.
[00:34:39] Speaker C: I'm not saying they're going to be scary. I'm just saying you can't overlook them. They'll be an ankle biter. They'll be an annoying team to play when it comes to it.
[00:34:47] Speaker A: I don't not I'm somewhat negative about the Vikings at this point, but I don't know. For me, for the NFC, I unfortunately have to say the Eagles are probably still looking like the best team in the NFC.
AFC is obviously a lot more interesting. I think the Chiefs are always going to contend no matter what, but they.
[00:35:12] Speaker B: Have a big injury with Nick Bolton.
[00:35:15] Speaker A: That is a big injury.
[00:35:16] Speaker B: Broke his wrist, I believe.
[00:35:17] Speaker A: I think he's I believe he did. Yeah. And again, I just think they're going to find their way deep into the playoffs. I think they just will.
[00:35:26] Speaker B: Surprised we didn't see a move from them, but it looks like more and more that they're getting. I mean, some of the receivers, like Rashee Rice looks more comfortable.
[00:35:34] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. Honestly, I was surprised with the pick of Rashee Rice when they made that. But hey, man, it's worked out. He's been a good player for him.
[00:35:43] Speaker B: Good low key fantasy pickup, too, for anyone.
[00:35:46] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:35:46] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: Also. But I do want to bring up the Ravens again.
I think, if know, they can avoid more skill position disasters like they had a few weeks ago, that is a really good football team. Lamar Jackson's playing great football.
I'm overall a fan of what Monkin is doing with that offense.
I really like the direction the Ravens are headed.
[00:36:11] Speaker B: Yeah, no, I think you had the Ravens, like we said earlier.
[00:36:14] Speaker A: I did. They were my AFC contender at the beginning.
[00:36:17] Speaker B: Now let me ask you as someone who has the Ravens going all the way, bengals are kind of an AFC team that's starting to look better and better each week. We've talked about them a little bit, especially now with Joe Burrow looking a little bit healthy. T. Higgins looks healthy again. I know he's catching passes. I know you had him on fantasy. I apologize. I'm suffering there with you. But he looks a lot better. Now, where to do the Bengals rank for you when you put it in different tiers, what tier are they for you?
[00:36:44] Speaker A: I think mean, I should have made tiers for mine. I'd probably put them in terms of the AFC. I'd probably put them in like a tier three and climbing conversation. If that makes be I think they belong in a conversation with everybody else in terms of who's going to take the mean, I don't think they're going to take the AFC. But in terms of just playoff outlook, it's also kind of similar to the Chiefs. That team we know, is very capable of really good football. Obviously a scary start, but I still think I'm confident it'll be interesting. I'm not sure when the next Ravens Bengals game is.
[00:37:25] Speaker C: It's November 16.
[00:37:27] Speaker A: November 16. That will be a big game.
[00:37:28] Speaker B: See how we do business.
[00:37:29] Speaker C: They have a lot of just like that. They have a lot of big games coming up. Yeah, the ravens.
[00:37:34] Speaker A: The Ravens.
[00:37:34] Speaker C: Do they have seattle, Browns, Bengals, Chargers, Rams, then Jaguars, niners Dolphins, and then endless Steelers.
[00:37:43] Speaker A: They'll have to prove their medal, I guess, towards the end of the season.
[00:37:46] Speaker C: Want to be the best, beat the best.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Same with the NFC. The Eagles, who you guys mentioned, is your tier one. They're about to come up on a hard gauntlet as well.
[00:37:53] Speaker C: They already started the gauntlet a little.
[00:37:54] Speaker B: Bit low key, so I think that's very interesting. Now, Tanner, just before we move off from the AFC, and then I'll get your opinions before we quickly go to break the jets, they're doing a lot better than people expected with Aaron Rodgers out. They're talking about Aaron Rodgers coming back. He's out there on the field. He's throwing. He's moving a little bit.
[00:38:12] Speaker A: Right.
[00:38:13] Speaker B: Let's say for whatever weird reason, Aaron Rodgers comes back, maybe somehow, some way.
What are the jets looking like?
[00:38:22] Speaker A: I mean, Aaron Rodgers completely changes that offense. I think it'll be a little weird because they've kind of changed the way the entire offense runs with Zach Wilson at the helm. So they'll have to you know, the whole season they were working under the assumption that Aaron Rodgers was their quarterback, so they have a system in place for it'll. Maybe it'll be a bit of a weird transition, and if he comes back in for like an early playoff game or something like that, then I think I would not have as high an outlook on the jets. But at the same time, if they are comfortable with Aaron Rodgers at quarterback, then that team looks really we know how dominant that defense is and it will not take much offensive production for them to win a lot of football games.
[00:39:04] Speaker C: Yeah. If you talk about Aaron Rodgers coming in at the end of the season, I know Zach Wilson, he's looked a lot better recently. But if we just look at it as a new quarterback that hasn't played since training camp coming into I guess what would it be like Week 19 if it was playoffs? Yeah, it's weird to think about because the leader of the offense who hasn't been there the whole season just comes out of nowhere and just tries to pick up where he left off.
[00:39:32] Speaker B: I know he's still around the team, though.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: He's still around the team, but he's not playing right, so big difference. Yeah. He doesn't get the chemistry down with the receivers where they like it. I know he had a little bit of time during training camp, so it'll be interesting to see.
I know if they have a playoff game, it's going to be bumping. A lot of people tuning in to actually see a real debut from Aaron Rodgers, but it's going to be weird. I don't know how they'll handle that.
[00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah, like you said, it's going to be a weird situation and we're going to hopefully for the best, hopefully Zach Wilson keeps balling a little bit and shown that he probably can't do well in the playoffs, but, I mean, we'll see what happens. As for right now, you've got to be like what you're seeing out of Zach Wilson and still keeping this team afloat.
[00:40:12] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:40:12] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:40:13] Speaker B: Before we had to break, the last thing I just wanted to mention is I'm just a little surprised we saw nothing out of the Broncos. They traded away Randy Gregory early and it seems like that was probably I mean, it seems like they have a lot of trade assets, but they just.
[00:40:27] Speaker C: Mean that's a beating the.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: I mean, credit to them.
[00:40:31] Speaker A: Maybe they just decided they're contenders now.
Yeah, maybe they did.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: What if they flipped this grid? What if they just won every after.
[00:40:39] Speaker A: Losing by 50 points to a football team and if they actually became a legit team, that would be awesome.
[00:40:46] Speaker B: That would just be a scary sight to see.
[00:40:47] Speaker A: Broncos country.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: But you are listening to ride.
[00:40:49] Speaker A: Let's rock. Let's ride.
[00:40:50] Speaker B: You are listening to WVUA 90.7 and.
[00:40:53] Speaker A: We'Ll be right back after this breakm. Tuscaloosa.
You are listening to the sport.
[00:41:23] Speaker C: Oh, my goodness.
[00:41:26] Speaker B: I don't know.
[00:41:27] Speaker A: At this point, that one was like it's okay.
[00:41:30] Speaker B: Too much?
[00:41:31] Speaker A: No, it's too much.
I don't think it's too much. Too little. I maybe just didn't get the reference, that's all.
[00:41:38] Speaker C: Evan's over here dying in the exile room right now.
[00:41:44] Speaker A: Let's not throw it to Connor for at least two more minutes. Manny, I can tell he needs the time. He's coughing, right.
[00:41:53] Speaker B: Evan?
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Let's keep going.
[00:41:55] Speaker B: At least he approves of it.
[00:41:57] Speaker C: While Evan tries to get back in the spooky season.
[00:41:59] Speaker B: Well, I guess I didn't scare him at all.
[00:42:01] Speaker A: You could have. He's coughing, man.
[00:42:02] Speaker C: I mean, you might have scared I.
[00:42:04] Speaker B: Took his breath away.
[00:42:05] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:42:05] Speaker A: There you go. There you go.
[00:42:06] Speaker C: So I want to give my AFC contenders and ankle biters.
[00:42:11] Speaker A: There you go.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: Does anybody actually get bitten in their.
[00:42:17] Speaker A: Question?
[00:42:18] Speaker B: You're asking me? I'm just thinking of the phrase I.
[00:42:20] Speaker A: Can'T think of, to be honest. In my reference of ankle biters, I know this football shorting a little off topic for a second.
[00:42:26] Speaker B: Go ahead.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: But in call of duty zombies, ankle biters are the ones that they don't have the legs and they're on the ground. They're crawling like crawlers. I think another name for crawlers, which is what I called them back in the day. But I think that's at least what I think the reference is.
[00:42:40] Speaker C: When I think of ankle biters, I think like a little just dog or something that keeps nipping at.
[00:42:49] Speaker B: Let'S keep.
[00:42:49] Speaker A: Moving on so Connor doesn't get in.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: Trouble for what he just said. So you're contenders.
[00:42:55] Speaker C: No, I do not punt the dog. Just like I have to clarify, it's just a figure of speech.
[00:43:05] Speaker A: How is punting a dog a figure of speech?
[00:43:07] Speaker C: It's like, oh, I want to punt the stick. I'm not going to punt. It's just like it's annoying.
[00:43:11] Speaker B: It's kind of like that old cartoon.
[00:43:12] Speaker C: Like, yeah, why, I ought to but you don't. But what are you talking about, dude? Let's move on.
My AFC contenders right now, I'm the Jacksonville jaguars.
[00:43:28] Speaker A: Your two AFC contenders. And one of them is the Jacksonville jaguars.
[00:43:31] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:43:31] Speaker A: You're two.
[00:43:32] Speaker C: Okay, that's my one.
[00:43:35] Speaker A: That maybe not everybody has your top two AFC contenders. Or it is.
[00:43:41] Speaker C: That's one of my AFC contenders. My top two.
[00:43:43] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:43:44] Speaker C: I would say my other one would probably be I guess the chiefs.
I don't want to say the include I cannot include the chiefs.
[00:43:57] Speaker B: Do you like the chiefs or the ravens more? And if you like the chiefs more, tell us why.
[00:44:01] Speaker C: I like the chiefs a little bit more. Just because they've proven they can get there and do this kind of stuff.
[00:44:06] Speaker B: Yeah. Proven track record.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: Yeah. The ravens. I like what Lamar brings. I know. Lamar has been insane so far this year.
[00:44:14] Speaker A: So good, man.
[00:44:15] Speaker C: I know. Mark andrews is good. Odell has been non existent. I know. Didn't Joey porter jr. Tell him to go take care? Yeah.
[00:44:22] Speaker A: You told him to go spend time with his dude. That is the stain on OBJ's legacy. I promise you.
[00:44:30] Speaker C: But odell hasn't done anything this year.
[00:44:32] Speaker A: No, he hasn't at all.
[00:44:33] Speaker C: It's kind of warranted.
Zay flowers has looked really good so far.
[00:44:38] Speaker A: Should have been a charger, man. I'll stand by that until Quentin johnson.
[00:44:42] Speaker B: Struggling a little bit.
[00:44:43] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:44:44] Speaker C: I don't know if he's just not being used correctly or he's just not playing. Yeah, so but I like what the rookie is doing with the ravens right now. I know the defense has looked pretty good, but just with the whole AFC north in general, it's always tough to play there. The whole steelers defense looks really good. Kenny pickett can get things going with George pickens. I know deontay johnson just came back and that's going to open up the whole realm.
[00:45:10] Speaker B: But I'm not too happy about the rest.
[00:45:12] Speaker A: I've talked about the steelers, I think, a little bit before, but I don't think Kenny pickett's very good, man.
[00:45:18] Speaker C: He's not good.
[00:45:18] Speaker A: I think he's a bad quarterback.
[00:45:20] Speaker C: He's not good.
[00:45:23] Speaker A: I think I went on a long tangent. If I remember correctly.
[00:45:26] Speaker C: I'll limit if the browns don't play deshaun Watson anymore and put in PJ. Walker, they'll be a good team.
[00:45:32] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:45:33] Speaker C: The bengals are. Joe burrow has know he always has his first four bad games and all of a sudden miss joe burrow becomes Joe. Isn't that what the kids refer to him as? Joe burrow?
[00:45:47] Speaker A: That's embarrassing, man. I can't believe you said that on air.
[00:45:49] Speaker C: Well, I mean, I'm just quoting what everyone says.
[00:45:52] Speaker A: All right, dude.
He'll personally never catch me saying Joe bur on air.
[00:45:57] Speaker C: Joe shisty.
[00:45:58] Speaker B: I mean, like, I can't joe burrow. I can't roll my r. So that's I'm impressed.
[00:46:01] Speaker C: I just wanted to roll my r because I know people who can't.
[00:46:04] Speaker B: Well, you succeeded. Oh, my god. They're out there.
[00:46:09] Speaker C: And I'm not referring to jalen. I'm not referring to jalen.
[00:46:13] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:13] Speaker C: I know somebody else who cannot roll their R's.
[00:46:15] Speaker A: They will not be doing this despite them, even though.
[00:46:20] Speaker C: But I do like what the Bengals are bringing. So the reason I wouldn't say Ravens is just because they have a lot going on in their division and they could easily just be a wild card team.
[00:46:29] Speaker B: Right, evan, what are you just going to say the Dolphins?
[00:46:33] Speaker D: No, I'm going to go back to the tiers. And for tier one, I really have nobody that's fair.
That's not a discredit to any AFC team, but I think it's more of a testament to how competitive the AFC is.
[00:46:51] Speaker B: I think you make a very good point. Peter Schreger on NFL Network. Not to cut you off just real quick. He said this is probably the first year we don't have a clear cut, clear cut, just favorite, like, a team that we just and he was saying it's mostly because some of the teams that we like, like the Chiefs and like the Eagles, we saw them lose on primetime, especially one of the Mowers. I think the game that the Eagles lost, it was the highest viewed on.
[00:47:18] Speaker A: Fox for the brutal.
[00:47:20] Speaker B: I know a lot of people.
[00:47:22] Speaker A: It's.
[00:47:23] Speaker C: What? Jalen.
[00:47:24] Speaker B: I'm over here.
[00:47:26] Speaker A: I said it's brutal. We lose games on like 12:00 P.m. Sunday games, man. We're good.
[00:47:32] Speaker B: We're not getting publicly embarrassed.
[00:47:34] Speaker C: Well, I mean, I can't really say anything. You all won your first game of the season.
[00:47:37] Speaker A: Exactly, man.
[00:47:37] Speaker C: Congrats.
[00:47:38] Speaker A: Yeah, keep going.
[00:47:39] Speaker B: Congrats.
[00:47:39] Speaker A: Let me have this one.
[00:47:40] Speaker B: But yeah, but Evan, just to your point, I think you made a great point.
[00:47:44] Speaker D: Thank you.
[00:47:46] Speaker B: You're welcome.
Okay.
[00:47:49] Speaker D: And then tier two, I'm going to go into Super Bowl contenders, and.
[00:47:55] Speaker B: These.
[00:47:55] Speaker D: Are people who I think might not have the best regular season, but once it gets to playoff time, these are the teams that are going to be able to beat anybody who comes in between them. And I think the three teams that have that knockout power, for example, are Kansas City, Miami, and Cincinnati. And even though Cincinnati is kind of in the middle of the rankings right now, when it gets that point, they're the team that I think can fight through it. And on the tier right below that, I think Baltimore, I don't think they're a top team like everyone says, but I think they're a team who like everyone.
[00:48:39] Speaker A: I think a lot of people a.
[00:48:45] Speaker D: Top two team, and I just don't see it they're going to beat.
[00:48:49] Speaker B: What are the Ravens missing, in your opinion, that makes you have them at your tier three?
[00:48:53] Speaker D: I don't know.
[00:48:54] Speaker C: The game doesn't know.
[00:48:57] Speaker B: It's the eye test.
[00:48:59] Speaker D: Yeah, it really is a good quarterback.
[00:49:03] Speaker C: But he's not a good quarterback. He's decent, but he's not decent.
[00:49:06] Speaker A: No, let's give him I called Zach.
[00:49:09] Speaker D: Wilson being a good quarterback this season.
[00:49:11] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:49:12] Speaker B: Keep going, though.
[00:49:13] Speaker A: Yeah, let's give him a chance.
[00:49:14] Speaker D: About the Ravens I think the Ravens this sounds counterintuitive in their upcoming game against Miami in December, they have a good chance of winning that game.
[00:49:25] Speaker A: Right.
[00:49:25] Speaker D: But in the playoffs, I don't see them beating in a row. Miami and then the Chiefs, and if it gets to it, the Bengals. I don't see them beating three top teams in a row.
[00:49:37] Speaker A: Why not?
[00:49:39] Speaker D: Just because. I don't think they're that think why.
[00:49:42] Speaker A: Are they not that good?
[00:49:43] Speaker B: Is it more for them?
[00:49:46] Speaker A: Is there something about this team that you are worried about? Is it a they can't put points.
[00:49:50] Speaker D: Up on the a certain sort of thing. But I think to be the best team, you've got to have these dominant wins. You got to show people and even though Kansas City hasn't been as dominant as they have in the past, we know it's Kansas City.
[00:50:05] Speaker A: They're going to be great in the playoffs. They turn it up.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: They rev it up.
[00:50:08] Speaker D: They have Andy Reed, Patrick Mahomes and Travis Kelsey. And you can't go wrong with that.
[00:50:13] Speaker C: That Big three is always something.
[00:50:16] Speaker B: It's the GoM.
[00:50:17] Speaker D: Same with Joe Burrow. I hate the dude.
As a Bama fan, as a Tua fan, he's just the bane of my.
[00:50:24] Speaker C: Existence as a Mac Jones fan.
[00:50:29] Speaker D: But Joe Burrow, he is Joe shisty. He can turn it.
[00:50:37] Speaker A: I will not let us refer to Joe shisty as like an alternate personality. I will not let that happen on this show.
[00:50:43] Speaker C: Joe shisty.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: I will not let that happen.
[00:50:46] Speaker D: There's just no person you don't know who that is.
[00:50:50] Speaker C: That right there is Joe Shise Aka. Joe, aka. Joe Burrow. We're going to start referring to him as cool as his online nicknames, his social media nicknames.
[00:51:02] Speaker B: Oh, God.
[00:51:03] Speaker A: All right.
[00:51:04] Speaker D: And in the tier with the Ravens are Jaguars and Buffalo. Those are teams that are going to beat good teams, but they aren't going to win a Super Bowl. They aren't going to play for a Super Bowl. And Baltimore could get there. Not this year, I don't think, but they definitely I think Lamar is a great quarterback. He's easily top five, arguably top three. I haven't really sat down and looked at a list, but I think they could compete for a Super Bowl very soon. Not this year.
[00:51:38] Speaker B: Okay. I liked it especially I get what you're saying, especially consistently. They have so many new pieces and still things to figure out. And especially with that one loss, they weren't playing to their expectations.
[00:51:49] Speaker A: A lot of drops. It was just a weird game.
[00:51:52] Speaker B: So I get your point there. Yeah.
[00:51:54] Speaker D: In my second tier Super Bowl contender tier, I do want to highlight an upcoming matchup this week. We have a healthy Dolphins squad, minus Devon a chan going against a healthy minus Nick Bolton, Kansas City Chiefs team. And I think this is just a kind of test for both teams.
[00:52:18] Speaker B: A little preview.
[00:52:19] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:52:20] Speaker D: Both teams have been doubted for playing lesser opponents and beating them by a good amount. And we've seen when the Chiefs played the Lions, who are a good team, they lost a close game, then they lost to the Broncos. That's whole nother story. But every time the Dolphins have played a good team, Bills and Eagles, they got kind of whooped. So this is just a big test for both teams.
[00:52:50] Speaker C: I know that's a very big game. Well, there's also another big game, bengals, Bills this week. So I'm excited to see that.
[00:52:58] Speaker D: I think the Bengals come out on.
[00:53:00] Speaker B: Let'S just go around before we head off air, just to end it. Give me your predictions for the Bengals and Bills and then Dolphins and Chiefs. Let's start with Tanner.
[00:53:08] Speaker A: Okay. Bengals. Bills.
I'm going to take the Bengals. I think they're on the up. I think those injuries, their secondary is going to be brutal. It's hard to guard Jamar Chase. That's my Bengals, Bill.
[00:53:19] Speaker C: I'm going Bengals.
[00:53:20] Speaker D: Bengals.
[00:53:21] Speaker B: Oh, wow. I think I'm off. I'm going to go bills.
[00:53:23] Speaker A: There you go, fun.
[00:53:25] Speaker B: Dolphins. Chiefs.
[00:53:26] Speaker A: Dolphins. Chiefs. I'm going to go Chiefs. I think Patrick Home is going to tear up that Vic Fangio defense.
[00:53:30] Speaker C: I'm going to go dolphins.
[00:53:31] Speaker D: Dolphins by. I want to say 45 to 20.
[00:53:34] Speaker B: I want to go.
[00:53:35] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:53:36] Speaker A: Whoa.
[00:53:37] Speaker D: I think we have a two.
[00:53:39] Speaker B: Evan is let's remind everybody, Evan is the Dolphins fan, but is this the first matchup where Tyreek Hill is coming back to Kansas?
[00:53:48] Speaker D: Yeah, it is.
[00:53:48] Speaker B: So that's why I'm going to pick the Dolphins. But I think that probably concludes it for our spooky show. And just to close it, we'll be back next week and then maybe more. We'll talk about Will Levis and his.
[00:54:02] Speaker C: Oh, yeah, I want to talk about that.
[00:54:04] Speaker A: Hopefully it's not much of an emergence next week, but we'll see.
[00:54:06] Speaker B: Yeah, just more of just being complacent.
But thank you for listening to the student show or the student show, the student section or the spooky section on WVUA 90.7, the Capstone.
