Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:00:15] Speaker B: Welcome one and all to WVUA's 90.7, the Capstone MBA student section. We're going to get right into it. First topic, we're talking about the Clippers being. Oh, wait, first things first. I'm your host Zachary Elrod, with me as always, Trey Simpson. And we got Adrian back. Adrian's here.
[00:00:33] Speaker C: Hey, short hiatus. Short hiatus.
[00:00:35] Speaker B: Short hiatus. Drew is not here.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Come back.
[00:00:38] Speaker B: Yeah, Drew's not here. He's currently at a concert, but he planned it ahead of time, so it's not enough.
[00:00:47] Speaker A: Next week.
[00:00:48] Speaker B: Yeah, he'll be back next week. But anyways, we're starting with the Clippers. Starting Owen two. With James Harden in their lineup, many people thought he was going to, I mean, they had a good thing going, in my opinion, but many people thought he was going to give him that extra boost for an NBA title. But not looking good so far. What do y'all think?
[00:01:07] Speaker C: Take a jab at.
[00:01:09] Speaker A: I think, you know, it's the normal hardened effect. He always starts off pretty rocky, shaky, but I feel like as time know that he'll get better with time. What do you think, Adrian?
[00:01:22] Speaker C: Yeah, it definitely is going to take an adjustment period, I think, here recently, the last couple of years, ever since KD left the warriors and that team.
I think that the warriors, when they were that good, that fast, it really set up a lot of other teams to not meet expectations, if that makes sense. I say that because people just think you're just going to throw another superstar in there and it's just going to be like, boom. And they're just immediately great. Another example for this season alone would be dame with the Bucks. Everybody's just like, they're just going to get together, they're going to win and nobody's going to stop them. And realistically, that's just not how basketball works. That's not how sports work. So they're owing two. Like you said, they're going to have growing pains. From what I've seen.
I think they're having a hard time of deciphering who's the guy because in those two games between Kawhi, PG, Westbrook and Harden, none of them dropped 25 within those two games. So I think they're still deciding how they want to do that, how they want to rotate who starts, if they all start together, stuff like that.
[00:02:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I saw a thing where Talu originally got them together during practice and he brought them together and he was like, okay, there's going to have to be sacrifices here, right? Because all of are, y'all are great players, right?
All hall of Famers, a little bit out of their prime, but they're still great players and there's going to have to be sacrifices.
It doesn't seem to me right now, James Harden, I think he was the leading scorer in both games, but he didn't really.
[00:02:58] Speaker C: PG dropped 24 one game.
[00:03:00] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:03:01] Speaker C: And then I think Harden did drop first game. I think he had like 18. Yeah, and he was the leading scorer of that game.
[00:03:07] Speaker B: But it's just been some bad passes.
It's in the middle of the season. They threw him into the offense. He's trying to know all their schemes and stuff. So I'm still giving it time. I don't want to be a hater on it, but originally I'm going to mention what I thought originally, I don't like it. I thought the Clippers had something good going with Westbrook, Kawhi and Paul George, but I don't know. We'll see over time. I think it's going to get better.
[00:03:34] Speaker A: I honestly think it's just like a chemistry thing.
They need more time to develop with each other, play together, figure each other out, learn each other's keys. I guess figuring out when somebody wants the ball coming off a screen or on a post up or something, that's really important. So just give it time.
[00:03:57] Speaker B: I would say that it's just my thoughts is like, is it going to be enough, though?
I mean, maybe they will come into their own towards the end of the season, but will it be enough to get like a high seat in the playoffs or even do good enough?
[00:04:10] Speaker A: Well, it's still early.
[00:04:11] Speaker C: Yeah, it's early. I mean, they're only two games in. They got a season just started. There's a full season ahead.
They log 50, 60. All of them are successful, except maybe Westbrook. Between PG, Kawhi and Harden, you never really know if you're going to get them on the floor. But I mean, if they log 40 games together as a group, they'll look a lot different than they do in games one and two.
[00:04:32] Speaker A: I don't even think anybody in the league has played over 15 games, so, yeah, I would.
[00:04:37] Speaker C: No, I don't think nobody's played ten yet. Yeah, nobody's played ten yet. Season is just starting. It's early. I will agree with you, Zach. I don't think that. I'm not a believer in this. I don't think it's going to work out for a multitude of reasons. Everywhere Westbrook's went. I'm not going to say it's been a disaster, but everywhere he's been, he's shown that he's not a championship player. The player that you want on a championship team now, I think he's an all time great. Do you disagree?
[00:05:06] Speaker A: No, I'm agreeing.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Yeah, everywhere he's been.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: So true that.
[00:05:11] Speaker C: And the same is said for Harden more everywhere he goes. It seems like not only are they not championship contenders, he wrecks what was thought to be a championship contender with his attitude from the Nets to the Rockets to the Sixers, everywhere he goes, he's just a team cancer.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: It's hard to hear when you're like fan to these players, but it's the.
[00:05:34] Speaker C: You know, then you go to the other two with Kawhi and PG, who are, I think most people would agree, the best two on the team. They're both injury prone, especially mean, but especially Paul George. You never know when PG is going to be hurt. You never know when Kawhi is going to be hurt. You never know if they're going to be on the floor because of their history with injuries. So I'm just a believer and I think if anybody could make it work, I do think it's talu, because I am a big talu believer. I think Talu is one of the best coaches in the NBA for sure, but I just don't think long term that it's going to work out. I will say this, I want to get y'all thoughts on this.
Why did they all four start? Because I was one that believed that Westbrook would be that six man role and I thought it would be a little less cluttered. A little less cluttered. He can come in man the bench.
[00:06:22] Speaker B: Oh, no. I thought he already had a good thing going, starting, so they probably didn't want to prevent that and stuff. And then Terrence Medb was starting in front of James Harden and they know he was already coming off the bench, like seasons prior.
[00:06:34] Speaker C: Right.
[00:06:34] Speaker B: So I guess they could say, like, putting him on the bench would be way easier than putting a guy like Westbrook on the bench.
[00:06:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but I think it's an ego thing at the end of the day. Like, somebody's going to have to make that sacrifice and swallow their pride, be able to come off the bench and perform when they get a chance.
[00:06:52] Speaker B: I like Westbrook, though. I think in his defense, I don't really know about Harden because he's had a lot of controversies and stuff, but Westbrook, he's been that guy to snag rebounds, do whatever he needs to bring that energy consistently. He's a high, like, high energy type guy, right? He's somebody to bring the team up when they're feeling down and stuff.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Wouldn't that make it more of a reason for him to come off the bench? Because you may be a high, energetic player all you want to, but if you're not consistently performing at the level people expect you to perform at, why not just go ahead and come off the bench? That way, pressure's taken off you, you feel a little bit more comfortable. But that's only if everybody else is performing up to that standard. If Harden's laying an egg, too, put him on the bench. I don't care. Like I said, it's ego.
[00:07:41] Speaker B: Did y'all see that pass to the commentator?
[00:07:44] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:07:44] Speaker B: Where he threw it up to the moon and stuff, and the commentator's like, it's coming my way and he caught it.
[00:07:49] Speaker C: Who was it? Harden?
[00:07:50] Speaker B: Yeah, it was Harden. He threw it up to the moon. He's trying to swing it to the other side of the court, to Paul George. It landed right with a commentator, and.
[00:07:57] Speaker A: He'S like, immediate reaction was like, to blame somebody, too, right? I don't even think he was.
[00:08:02] Speaker C: Harnant is just not a good teammate, bro. He's just not a good teammate.
Now, Westbrook, I was saying as far as playstyle, not that Westbrook is Not a starting caliber player. He's obviously still get you, what, 17, seven and seven, whatever. He's going to still get rebounds, assists, play good defense, hustle. But I just think, schematically it would have made a lot more sense, which I said the same thing when he was on the other LA, when he was playing with LeBron and Ad, I never thought that that was a great match or a great fit. And he started coming off the bench and he looked a lot better. So I think if he came off the bench with the Clippers, it would give them extra life. It's definitely something. I think they should experiment because I think tonight they're probably going to lose.
[00:08:51] Speaker B: Tonight against the Mavericks. That's what I'm believing, and I already know I'm believing in that.
[00:08:57] Speaker C: I genuinely think Luca has something against that team.
[00:08:59] Speaker B: Man, Curry should be playing. He's been inefficient lately, though, but, I mean, his assist numbers have been going up.
[00:09:05] Speaker C: Has he been playing hurt?
[00:09:07] Speaker B: I'm not sure, but I know lively didn't play last game, which was the reason why we lost to the Raptors.
[00:09:13] Speaker C: Okay, shoot.
[00:09:14] Speaker A: I feel like everybody plays hurt to a certain degree. That's fair nowadays.
[00:09:19] Speaker B: Oh yeah.
[00:09:20] Speaker C: That's for one quick question I got for y'all on the Clippers. Staying on that topic, that's my last question about the Clippers. Who do y'all think and I think it's only a two man race. Is the best player on that team.
[00:09:29] Speaker B: Right now the best player? You think it's qua I think it's.
[00:09:35] Speaker C: Mean. I didn't think we would all agree. I think PG is the best player on that team right now.
[00:09:39] Speaker B: I mean, the one that's putting up the numbers consistently, it's Paul George. Or at least more consistently than others is Paul George. But Kawhi I mean, he had a better prom, but I don't know. It's just kind of a little biased.
[00:09:52] Speaker A: Because I'm a Paul George fan.
[00:09:54] Speaker B: But who doesn't like mean? He's so smooth.
[00:09:58] Speaker C: He was so disliked during COVID and then it's like everybody forgot about was just that whole little run. I don't know what happened, but everyone in the league hated Paul George for the whole COVID. But besides that, everybody's pretty much like him.
[00:10:12] Speaker B: I like pandemic P yeah, he would always hit the side of the backboard and stuff. That was rough. That was rough for him.
[00:10:18] Speaker C: That was easily the worst run of his career that I've seen.
[00:10:21] Speaker B: But he came back from it, though.
[00:10:23] Speaker C: He's bounced back very nicely.
[00:10:24] Speaker B: And everybody's calling him like their goat and stuff. Like all the young players and stuff.
[00:10:30] Speaker C: Particularly Brandon Miller.
[00:10:33] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:10:33] Speaker C: Which makes a lot of sense because you can tell he models his game after him.
[00:10:37] Speaker B: He does seem like a PG type player for sure. But anyways, going into it, I mean, I also wanted to mention the Sixers and their success. They're number one in the east right now without Harden.
[00:10:47] Speaker A: Harden leaves and they start winning, man. Something's.
[00:10:52] Speaker C: Not. I think not.
[00:10:53] Speaker B: And Tobias Harris is coming into his own, too, because remember that time when the Sixers said they wanted to trade like a cookie for Tobias Harris because they all hated him.
[00:11:04] Speaker C: It's funny enough we talk about them. They're losing right now by 13 at the Pistons.
[00:11:09] Speaker B: Oh, they are. It's just 13.
[00:11:11] Speaker A: They might get us together.
[00:11:13] Speaker B: It's a game of runs, but he's averaging 19 now and six rebounds on 60% field golf. So good efficiency.
[00:11:20] Speaker C: Well, they got a guy. I mean, the Sixers. Kelly Uber has been a pleasant surprise.
[00:11:24] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. He's been a great pickup for them.
[00:11:26] Speaker C: He has been a great pickup. And like you said, Harris has been really good. And Embiid's Embiid. Embiid is the MVP, but he's probably the second best player on the team.
[00:11:34] Speaker B: And then second best player.
[00:11:35] Speaker C: Maxi is the best player.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Oh, my God.
[00:11:37] Speaker C: Maxi is the best player on the team.
[00:11:39] Speaker A: Maxi being better than Embiid.
[00:11:40] Speaker C: Maxi is the best on the team.
[00:11:42] Speaker B: That is definitely take.
[00:11:44] Speaker C: He's 25, seven and five. Okay. He's not better than Embiid, but still a bucket, though. He's really good. Dude. He's 23 years old and he's averaging 25, seven and five.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: All star season. Loading.
[00:11:55] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. Well, was Maxi a point guard or shooting guard?
[00:11:59] Speaker B: I think now a point guard because he was a shooting guard with like Harden on the floor.
[00:12:03] Speaker C: Right.
[00:12:04] Speaker B: But now I think he's more as a point guard.
[00:12:06] Speaker C: He's definitely making out of the east, don't you think? Point guard. Well, Halliburton is going to make it. Who else is the East All Stars? Point guards? Halliburton is going to be All Star.
[00:12:15] Speaker B: We go ahead and clock out Damien Lillard. Damien Lillard now.
[00:12:19] Speaker C: Yeah, that's a good point.
[00:12:21] Speaker B: Trey Young could make a run. He had 40 because I guess they.
[00:12:24] Speaker C: Picked four point guards, right?
[00:12:26] Speaker B: I guess so. I don't know if Drew Holiday would make a run, though.
[00:12:29] Speaker C: No, I don't think so.
Not over Maxi.
[00:12:33] Speaker A: Jalen Brunson.
[00:12:34] Speaker B: Jalen Brunson. Yeah.
Did you all hear about Trey Young's 900 career three pointer?
[00:12:41] Speaker C: No. Is he the fastest to ever do it, though? Probably.
[00:12:44] Speaker B: I'm not sure. He just hit it from like half court and stuff. It was like crazy.
[00:12:48] Speaker C: He hit it from half court.
[00:12:49] Speaker B: It was near the logo and stuff. He hit it from deep. You know, it's Trey Young, player to.
[00:12:54] Speaker A: Accomplish like a goal. They said Tatum was the first one or fastest Celtic to reach 10,000 points.
[00:13:00] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, that was likely.
[00:13:01] Speaker C: Well, I mean, the Celtics don't have a great history.
Tatum's hooping right now. He's been really good, right? He's been really good this year.
[00:13:12] Speaker B: But yeah, I think it's definitely a possibility that Mac, like going back to the guard topic, I think it's definitely a possibility that Maxi could be an All Star. Definitely. He's got a lot of people to compete with, but I think it's a high possibility.
[00:13:24] Speaker A: Honestly. Now he's got to have a breakout, like breakout run.
[00:13:29] Speaker C: He is, I don't know, man. 25, 75 and you're on the number one team in the East.
That's going to be pretty breakout run. That's going to be pretty hard to keep. We're only seven, eight games in. I don't know, will he keep this play up?
I think he will if he does. I'd be shocked if he's not. Especially because either way, at worst, they're kind of probably be third seed come All Star time. At worst, they could possibly be the first seed. So I definitely think he'll make the.
[00:13:59] Speaker B: All Star this season, but, yeah, definitely. Embiid has been one of the front runners for them because I think he had like 27 and what was It? I don't know. He went off one game, but he's been going crazy.
[00:14:10] Speaker C: Embiid has been. He's been Embiid dropping 32 and eleven. He's averaging six assists.
[00:14:15] Speaker B: Six assists. Hey, don't sleep. But I saw, like, literally, it was just clips of him during the game. It was all in the paint area. They were just giving him passes and that's all. The only places he was scoring was around the paint.
[00:14:28] Speaker A: I think he had a couple of mid ranges, too. Every now and then.
[00:14:31] Speaker B: It was a free throw line, mid range. It was around the, like, you know, around that perimeter.
[00:14:35] Speaker C: He's just a big free throw merchant, if you ask me.
[00:14:37] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:14:38] Speaker C: No, not really. He's good.
He's top ten.
[00:14:44] Speaker A: Yanis Aunte De Kumpo is a 54.
[00:14:48] Speaker C: Last night in the loss. Do you all catch that?
[00:14:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. Versus the Pacers.
[00:14:51] Speaker A: All his points were in the paint, too. Not to hate on them, but I got to throw that out there.
[00:14:58] Speaker B: If you can't stop him, the reason that motivated him, probably because the other night, because he got ejected. You all see that?
[00:15:04] Speaker C: Yeah. Where he got ejected, and that was, dude, something's got to be done about that. I sure didn't want to talk about that, about the NBA and the refs. I mean, they didn't even give him an explanation when he asked. They're just sitting there looking at him.
[00:15:16] Speaker A: They didn't even give him a warning either.
[00:15:18] Speaker C: No, they're just like, you're out. And it felt like just because he stared him down.
[00:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:15:25] Speaker C: So that was weird.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: And all the greatest plays have been. Know those stare down plays. Like, you know what I'm talking about, right? Dwayne Wade, when he stepped over, like, Ergen Berjao or like, and then just staring him down and stuff. Imagine if he got a tech and just got ejected for that. That's just an iconic NBA moment that I don't know. I just think that's bull. And then I think that was one of the main things that motivated him to get that 54 bomb.
[00:15:51] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I agree. I mean, I think with the rise of, I guess, social media and mental health awareness, if you just look around sports, it's so dumbed down and softened with NFL, too. I mean, guys are getting fined every other weekend or every other week for stuff. When we started, watching sports was just normal.
[00:16:13] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:16:13] Speaker A: They've been training to hit the quarterback their whole career and now all of a sudden they can't even hit the quarterback.
[00:16:20] Speaker B: I heard JJ White talking about that. Yeah.
[00:16:22] Speaker C: Then translating that to with NBA. I mean, guys celebrating, they get a seen. I can't remember who it was.
I want to say it was last season. Somebody handed the referee the ball and.
[00:16:34] Speaker B: Got like a tech can't express emotion.
[00:16:37] Speaker C: Was it beverly? Yeah, he just handed.
[00:16:38] Speaker A: No, he handed him a camera in that game.
[00:16:40] Speaker C: No. Okay, he handed him a camera.
[00:16:42] Speaker B: Well, that's.
[00:16:46] Speaker C: Somebody handed him the ball or they threw the ball. It might have been Luca and got a tech. And I was just like, what are we doing?
[00:16:54] Speaker B: And then I remember Tatum one time he kind of just like pounded the ball in the ground. It wasn't even crazy, too. And then they're just like teed up.
[00:17:01] Speaker C: And a lot of times they give them text and they're not even lashing out at the ref. They're just showing emotion throughout the game. What's happening in the game.
[00:17:10] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure either Giannis or MB got a check for clapping the ball.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Just getting. It's gotten ridiculous, for sure.
[00:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah, that's going to do it for this first segment. We'll be right back with more NBA content. We'll see y'all.
[00:17:34] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
[00:17:49] Speaker C: We're back here, student section, to talk some more NBA basketball. Like we've said a couple times, we're only, what, nine or ten games in this season. But I did want to get y'all's thoughts on early MVP talks. Way too early MVP talks. There's anybody you all see right now? I'm just going to go ahead and say it. Curry is going to win MVP.
[00:18:08] Speaker B: Curry is going to win MVP.
[00:18:09] Speaker C: Curry's not going to win MVP. But I want Curry to win Curry. But he's got a chance. But I think they've shown that they want to give the MVP out to more guys, if that makes sense, because last year Jokic should have won MVP and they gave it to MB. Do you all agree with that or no?
[00:18:29] Speaker A: Yeah, I said that.
[00:18:31] Speaker C: Well, I mean, he won back to back and I think last year was better than the back to back years.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, but I think, I mean, Yokich right now is just being the more productive player. He's averaging like, what, 30 a game and still getting like snagging crazy rebounds. Ten. I know it's a basic answer, but it's just the obvious answer. And then Luca is still. He's being productive.
[00:18:50] Speaker A: Didn't you say you. Yeah, you have him. Me personally, I got to go with Yanis. Wild card.
[00:18:59] Speaker C: Really?
[00:19:00] Speaker B: Wild card. Did he come off a pretty good game?
[00:19:03] Speaker C: I don't know. I mean, I think this season, I genuinely think this is probably going to be one of the better MVP races that we're going to see because I think for the entire season, Luca and Jokic are just going to put up ridiculous stats. But I think that favors Luca given that Jokic has already won two, now he's got a finals.
If I had a pick, if I had to put money on it, I think this is Lucas year to win MVP.
[00:19:34] Speaker A: I think players around the league are more hungry for it, too. Like, everybody's making more of an effort for accolades and awards and stuff like that. So just going to be exciting to see how it plays out.
[00:19:45] Speaker B: Other people averaging 32. Tatum and Kday.
[00:19:49] Speaker C: KD will get canceled out, though. Tatum could win because Brown is a high. He's like a. He's like an All Star. He's not a superstar. He got paid like a superstar.
[00:19:59] Speaker B: He is getting paid like a superstar.
[00:20:02] Speaker C: I don't consider Brown a superstar. He's an All Star. But like KD plays with.
Bill is probably an All Star.
D book is a superstar, though.
[00:20:13] Speaker B: D book is definitely a superstar. Bill didn't really have the greatest debute either. He only had like 14.
[00:20:18] Speaker A: Yeah, he just hasn't had the best runs, really. He had like one good game so far and it's kind of been like.
[00:20:25] Speaker C: Yeah, I think he's hurt, though. I mean, I don't know if you all seen that video of him going around with the way he was shooting. His shooting form looked different and they was like, because he had a back injury and people are saying that he doesn't look like himself injury wise. He's not healthy. But, yeah, with that MVP thing that we were talking about, rarely ever. I can't remember a time where there were two superstars on a team and somebody won MVP.
[00:20:52] Speaker A: I mean, I guess Westbrook.
[00:20:55] Speaker C: Westbrook wasn't a superstar at the time, though. Not in 14.
[00:20:59] Speaker A: No, Westbrook didn't even get MVP when KD was on that team.
[00:21:02] Speaker C: Oh, no, he got MVP. I thought you were talking about when KD won and they were on a team together at that point. Westbrook would have been an All Star. He won superstar level. He didn't become a superstar, really till.
[00:21:14] Speaker B: KD ships Katie left, which he had to, because they didn't have anybody on.
[00:21:17] Speaker A: That team have a name for himself, like, everybody.
[00:21:20] Speaker C: Oh, he had a name. Well, he might have been a superstar in 2016. That year. They were one game away from the finals. That might have been his actual first year as a superstar, maybe. Well, you know what? What year did KD get hurt? I'll take that back. Westbrook. Westbrook. One year, Katie got hurt and missed, like, the whole season when who ran into his leg? Was it Beverly? No. Beverly hurt Westbrook. One year, Kevin Durant got hurt, and Westbrook led the league in points. Do y'all remember that?
[00:21:46] Speaker B: What was that back in OKC?
[00:21:47] Speaker C: Yes.
[00:21:48] Speaker B: I don't remember that.
[00:21:49] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll fact check it here in a second. But one year he did LeBron with Wade.
[00:21:56] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, LeBron Wade.
[00:21:58] Speaker A: And it was Chris Bosch. He was, like, more of an All Star, though. He wasn't.
[00:22:01] Speaker C: I don't think he was.
[00:22:02] Speaker B: I don't even think he was an All Star, because he was only an All Star back when he played for the Raptors.
[00:22:06] Speaker C: Did he never make all. He made All Star, though? One time with the Heat, at least. I know the first year he made it with the Heat.
[00:22:12] Speaker B: Yeah. I think he might have made it with the Heat earlier years.
[00:22:15] Speaker C: Yeah. Because they only had four years. I think you're right, though. I think he only made it the first year.
[00:22:19] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:22:20] Speaker A: Would you consider Clay a superstar? Because I would say Curry and Clay, maybe, but no.
[00:22:24] Speaker B: It would be interesting to see how he would have panned out if he got drafted to a different team.
[00:22:29] Speaker A: Shoot, the league trees clay like he's the greatest.
[00:22:34] Speaker B: I mean, who doesn't love Clay? Clay's Clay. Who doesn't love him?
[00:22:38] Speaker C: Well, because I'm one of those people. This is another conversation we can carry on.
I'm not a believer in super. Like, a big believer in superstars. There's not that many superstars in superstar.
[00:22:50] Speaker B: Yeah. I mean, how many y'all do you mean? I can think of a.
[00:22:59] Speaker A: KD before Katie.
[00:23:00] Speaker B: KD Katie.
I think Tatum, basically, all the people we've talked about. Doncic, Tatum, Booker.
Yeah.
[00:23:10] Speaker C: Would you say.
[00:23:14] Speaker A: Impact, though?
[00:23:15] Speaker C: It's like Dane's impact.
[00:23:16] Speaker B: He had 34 the other night, I think.
[00:23:18] Speaker C: Who?
[00:23:19] Speaker A: Kyrie?
[00:23:20] Speaker C: Not now. Not now. At one time, Cavs. Kyrie was a superstar.
[00:23:26] Speaker B: And Celtics. Kyrie, come on now.
[00:23:28] Speaker C: No, he was inconsistent.
[00:23:31] Speaker B: Hurting my heart.
[00:23:33] Speaker C: All Star.
[00:23:33] Speaker B: Come on now.
[00:23:35] Speaker A: It's just the Boston effect, bro. Players just go down.
[00:23:38] Speaker C: Not a superstar. I mean, would you say SGA is a superstar?
[00:23:43] Speaker B: That could be debatable.
[00:23:44] Speaker C: He's gearing there. I would say MB the superstar.
[00:23:48] Speaker B: With how good the record is doing, I could think SGA is getting up.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: There like you're saying, like a superstar versus SGA. Anthony Edwards, I put him before SGA.
[00:23:58] Speaker C: You see, I think those are those next tier guys where they're like, not superstar, but like All Star.
[00:24:03] Speaker A: Halliburton. Let's go ahead and mention Tyrese Halliburton. He doesn't.
[00:24:06] Speaker C: Tyrese. Maxi, he's not a superstar at all.
[00:24:10] Speaker B: But he's going to be an All Star.
[00:24:11] Speaker C: Yeah, he's going to be an All Star. He could one day be a superstar. He's only 23.
[00:24:15] Speaker A: Lamello Ball has a potential to be a superstar.
[00:24:19] Speaker B: Zion and Anthony Edwards, their team is on. I think they're number three in the west right now.
[00:24:25] Speaker C: Are they really?
[00:24:27] Speaker B: The T Wolves are doing really good. They're on a four game winning streak.
[00:24:29] Speaker C: Wow.
[00:24:30] Speaker B: Anthony Edwards, I mean, he's been taking over like crazy.
I don't know. He could. Nah, he couldn't be it. Could he be an MVP?
[00:24:41] Speaker A: Not this.
[00:24:41] Speaker C: No.
[00:24:42] Speaker B: Sleeper.
[00:24:44] Speaker C: Sleeper.
[00:24:44] Speaker A: He wouldn't get it. Like LeBron and Katie and all them would kind of have to be retired for that to be like.
[00:24:49] Speaker C: Well, I don't know. Because their days of winning MP are over. Yeah.
[00:24:52] Speaker A: No, I'm just saying in terms of all these new guys getting it, I'm sure right now they're still looking at guys like Tatum, Yokage, maybe more time for know something like that.
[00:25:08] Speaker B: I'm shocked. Luca hasn't won an MVP with the.
[00:25:10] Speaker C: Type of only his fifth year, though.
I mean, he'll win one in the next three seasons, hopefully.
[00:25:16] Speaker B: Ma'am, I want it for him.
[00:25:18] Speaker C: I think he'll win one of the next three seasons for sure.
[00:25:20] Speaker B: You would think so. With the type of like 40 point triple doubles.
[00:25:25] Speaker C: He's at 32. Nine and nine right now.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Right now, yeah. Are we winning?
[00:25:30] Speaker C: Oh, no. Well, not.
[00:25:33] Speaker A: You thought that was a live stat?
[00:25:34] Speaker B: I thought it was live stats.
[00:25:37] Speaker C: I'm talking about for the season. He's average at 32, nine and on.
[00:25:40] Speaker B: That is insane.
[00:25:41] Speaker A: Dang. We haven't mentioned Deer and Foxes one time, and I'm kind of shocked about that.
[00:25:46] Speaker B: But all Star, he's definitely an All Star, right?
[00:25:48] Speaker C: Now.
And they've been bad in the future. The Kings haven't been good.
[00:25:54] Speaker B: I don't know, dear. And Fox has been around for a minute, though. Not like crazy long, but like, when was he drafted? Like 27.
[00:26:02] Speaker A: Not earlier.
[00:26:03] Speaker C: 2017. 18.
[00:26:06] Speaker B: This is probably no earlier than 18.
[00:26:08] Speaker A: Wasn't he like 16?
[00:26:10] Speaker B: Dragola might have been 16, something like that.
[00:26:12] Speaker A: I don't know.
[00:26:13] Speaker C: I want to say he was 17.
[00:26:15] Speaker A: I know he was in two K, 17.
[00:26:16] Speaker B: So, like, he was in two K.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: Might have got drafted in 16.
[00:26:21] Speaker C: Fox has been good.
[00:26:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah.
[00:26:23] Speaker C: Fox, he's been 31, six and four this season.
[00:26:25] Speaker B: But their record isn't even really their product. They're at the bottom of the west right now. They're barely skimming by.
[00:26:31] Speaker C: Like, they're four games behind since last.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: Year to not go by records, especially, like early. Yeah, because like, Lakers last year, we went to the conference final, started two and ten. We're like at the bottom.
[00:26:42] Speaker C: Oh, yeah.
[00:26:43] Speaker B: Aren't off to a good start right now.
[00:26:45] Speaker A: Mid section, they were like six seed, I think, and they made it.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: So I don't, I mean, I'm always a believer. You can't start really looking at seeding until like January.
[00:26:57] Speaker B: It's cool to look at, though.
[00:27:00] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:27:00] Speaker B: But, yeah, it's still really early. It's still really early.
[00:27:03] Speaker C: That's why I said way too early. MVP talks. There's not, which I think from the guys we named, there are like, Luca and Yoke will be there all year. I don't know. Will Curry play enough games?
[00:27:14] Speaker B: And also I'm thinking of most improved, too. With Maxi, he's starting to really improve. And then Sangoon and then PJ Washington, I think is more of a sleeper pick, though. But Sangoon is probably like the front runner for most Improved.
[00:27:30] Speaker C: Yeah, he's been good.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: I was just thinking about who PJ Washington was. He's on the Hornets.
[00:27:35] Speaker B: You don't know Washington.
[00:27:36] Speaker A: I was thinking about PJ Tucker.
[00:27:39] Speaker C: I genuinely like, I'm not lying when you said PJ Washington, I thought of PJ Tucker for a second and then I was like, okay, no, he's on my.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: He is the more popular PJ, but PJ Washington, he's coming into his own. He's really helping with the Hornets. If you watch the Hornets basketball, which.
[00:27:53] Speaker C: Not many people have, they had a TV game yet.
[00:27:56] Speaker B: A TV game? Yeah, I think so.
[00:27:59] Speaker A: With their subscriptions, but not.
[00:28:00] Speaker C: No, I kind of think they've been on national television this year.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: Need to have the Pacers and even them.
[00:28:08] Speaker C: The Pacers have been good.
[00:28:10] Speaker A: But, you know, it's all about marketability.
[00:28:13] Speaker C: Yeah, that is a word. That's a word.
[00:28:15] Speaker B: He is averaging 17 points a game, five rebounds and like 1.9 assists, which doesn't really matter. And his field goal percentage is like 52.
[00:28:25] Speaker C: What do you average last year?
[00:28:26] Speaker B: Last year? I'll have to look at that.
I'm not sure. Let me look it up. Let me look it up. Anybody?
[00:28:36] Speaker A: What about what's going on with the in season tournament? I don't have any clue.
[00:28:40] Speaker B: There's a bunch of in season tournament games today actually average 16.
[00:28:45] Speaker A: Last year you would think as much as they 16 promoting it. Every game will be on TV.
ESPN has three channels by themselves. Like at least put three of three games on.
[00:28:55] Speaker C: I think this is a great topic that you bring up.
We talked about off here. I don't really get the in season tournament thing. And what you said is the exact thing that I told my brother is if it's so hyped up, why is every single game not on the play? Why am I talking about why is every single game not on TV? I say the playoffs because I feel like they kind of hyped it up like a playoff. Not just like the playoffs, but they hyped it up that much. Like it's got a lot of hype and all the games aren't on TV.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: I just don't really see it.
[00:29:25] Speaker C: It's very weird.
[00:29:26] Speaker B: It is just the group stage, though, so I mean, I guess they're not really. But you would still think they would all be televised because it's like supposed to be this quote unquote important thing. So I don't know.
[00:29:38] Speaker A: And winter teams getting eliminated too because obviously not everybody can make it. So how is the eliminations going?
[00:29:46] Speaker C: I think it's a double elimination in the group play. Is that right?
[00:29:50] Speaker B: In the group play? It's not a single elimination, I don't think. Yeah, because the warriors lost, but they're still in it.
[00:29:55] Speaker C: They're still in.
Very weird concept.
[00:29:59] Speaker B: I don't really get those. I get like the group stage and you go on with brackets and stuff. Kind of like a little March Madness type. But as far as those rules, I'm not aware of that. I don't know. Like people like Bones Highland. Did y'all see that interview? And they're like, what do you think of the tournament? And Bones Highland was like, no clue. I don't even know.
[00:30:19] Speaker C: Rose is out there just playing like it's just the think something. I know they're trying to implement stuff for viewership and make it more popular, which know the right thing, what they should do. I think personally, something they could do that would be a one on one tournament for the All Star break.
[00:30:37] Speaker B: One on one tournament? I haven't heard about that.
[00:30:40] Speaker C: You don't think so?
[00:30:41] Speaker B: One on one tournament, dude, imagine LeBron.
[00:30:43] Speaker C: And Katie playing like a one on one game on Live TV to eleven.
Like, dude, that would do numbers.
[00:30:50] Speaker B: I just like for the All Star Games, I want them to actually go back to trying because back in the day, remember watching those All Star Games where they would actually try at the end, they might goof around in the beginning, but then at the end they're actually trying and not just taking shots from like half court or Jalen Brown and Jason Tatum. One v. One.
[00:31:08] Speaker A: In nowadays, games recently in the past have been first three quarTers, they hang up about 60 to 70, maybe even 80 points, depending. And fourth quarter is when they tally all of it up and then that's when they're kind of going a little bit harder. But I get what you mean. I feel like it'll be way more entertaining if they kind of do that the whole game, but I think the east and West format will bring that back.
[00:31:33] Speaker C: Well, they talked about that. They're going to get a little more serious this year. I think they're going to up the prices as far as pay.
[00:31:40] Speaker B: Seriously?
[00:31:41] Speaker C: I think so. I think Silver said he wants it to get back. He took responsibility on why it hasn't been what it's supposed to be or what fans expected to be talking about.
[00:31:49] Speaker B: The All Star Game.
[00:31:50] Speaker C: Yeah. Which I'm never. I guess a lot of people aren't believers that, hey, you got the best players in the world, like the actual top best players in the world. Let's see them play against each other, which is. That's fine. That's understandable. But I'm never one that's that serious about it. I don't think it's that bad seeing them. I mean, I think it's cool watching Steph Curry just shoot like crazy and make 16 threes.
[00:32:11] Speaker B: That was pretty fun to watch. That was crazy.
[00:32:13] Speaker C: Yeah. Them just do insane dunks and kind of flex their talent in the All Star Game instead of going out there and taking it.
[00:32:19] Speaker B: Super, extremely serious mention in the in season tournament, though, there's a lot of games going on today. I did kind of want to get y'all's thoughts on who's going to win these games. Obviously the Clippers and Mavericks, who do.
[00:32:33] Speaker A: Mavs at home, got to go with Mavericks. Clippers look a little dysfunctional right now.
[00:32:39] Speaker C: And Lucas historically just so good against them.
[00:32:42] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, I heard the Mavericks had a court problem and stuff with their, like, you know how they have all those NcAson tournament courts and stuff, which I think is kind of ugly because the court, like, I don't know, the colors are just so bright. It looks like a two K court or something.
[00:32:56] Speaker C: I'm genuinely just not a fan of this in season tournament thing. I don't know if you could tell.
[00:33:01] Speaker B: By my Season tournament.
[00:33:04] Speaker A: Yeah, it's just rushed, to be honest. I don't think they took the time to properly explain it.
[00:33:11] Speaker B: They just tried to whip up something real quick and just put it out.
[00:33:14] Speaker C: Throw it on us. It doesn't seem well thought out at all. No, I agree. That's a good thing. Just, hey, guys, here's NC tournament. Like it. All the games are not televised. Either game is a commercial.
[00:33:26] Speaker A: They're playing for a trophy.
How does this affect playoffs? How does this affect.
[00:33:33] Speaker C: How does this affect LeBron's legacy?
[00:33:35] Speaker B: That's the question for everything that we need to be asking. I mean, come on now. So y'all say Mavericks? Yeah, I gotta go with my Mavericks. I mean, come on now. And the next game, Lakers Suns. Repeat of opening night.
[00:33:48] Speaker C: Where is it?
[00:33:50] Speaker A: Lakers have been playing very bad lately. I've been turning games off.
[00:33:55] Speaker C: Seriously, where's the game at?
[00:33:57] Speaker A: Watch through.
[00:33:58] Speaker B: I'm not sure where the game's at.
[00:34:00] Speaker A: But with that being said, I'm gonna have to go Suns tonight. And I hate to say I will never choose anybody past Laker, but I gotta go with sons.
[00:34:11] Speaker C: I'm a ride with the Lakers. Lakers need a big win.
[00:34:14] Speaker B: Is that Phoenix?
[00:34:15] Speaker C: All right, I'm going to go with the Suns.
[00:34:17] Speaker A: Is Bill playing?
[00:34:20] Speaker B: Bill playing? I'm not sure about that.
[00:34:22] Speaker C: One. Book plan is book back. Playing books back.
[00:34:24] Speaker A: We know.
[00:34:24] Speaker B: I don't know if books back.
[00:34:26] Speaker C: Never know what those guys.
[00:34:27] Speaker A: If all the stars are playing for the Suns.
[00:34:30] Speaker C: I think ad.
[00:34:31] Speaker A: If he plays, he's playing hurt. So that's why I say I don't think. Lakers going to.
[00:34:36] Speaker B: Yeah, Devin Booker's out.
[00:34:37] Speaker A: Always hurt.
[00:34:40] Speaker B: Devin Booker's out.
[00:34:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm gonna say Lakers win. They need a win.
[00:34:43] Speaker A: Oh, well, books out then. That kind of changes the equation.
[00:34:45] Speaker B: But Bill's still playing, so I don't know. Bill might go off.
[00:34:48] Speaker C: He's injured, though.
[00:34:49] Speaker A: Katie, too.
[00:34:50] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, Katie's definitely playing. Damien Lee's not playing, but that's not even really. I mean, Kudos. To Damien Lee. Shout out Damien Lee.
[00:34:57] Speaker A: Man, I just feel like, okay, I'm gonna call it now. I feel like Reese is about to have a big game and D Lo's about to just lay an egg. I think he's not gonna do good.
[00:35:07] Speaker C: Deal is a bum.
[00:35:08] Speaker B: I think I'll go with the Lakers. I think they got it. Yeah, it's the mean.
It's the Suns. I mean, I don't think it's really that big of a deal going into the next game. Real quick, before we go back to break T Wolves and Spurs, I got the Wolves.
[00:35:25] Speaker A: I'm going to say it. I like Anthony.
[00:35:27] Speaker C: The Wolves are going to win.
[00:35:28] Speaker B: Wolves are going to win. Even over Wimby. No, he had a bad debut in the garden, but still, Wimby is going.
[00:35:34] Speaker C: To probably win rookie the year, but they're going to lose this game.
[00:35:36] Speaker A: I mean, Wimby could drop 30 tonight, but if Ant has 35 and Cat has even 20.
[00:35:41] Speaker C: Yeah. Ants took over the team. Now it's Ants team. Now it's not Cats. I think there's kind of been questions the last couple of years whose team.
[00:35:50] Speaker B: It was, but it's definitely Anthony Edwards team. I think there's no debate.
[00:35:54] Speaker A: See what Goldberg does against Wimby defensively, that's going to be a good match.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Got dunked on by Jalen Brown.
[00:36:00] Speaker A: No. Cass not going to guard him. Cass just.
[00:36:02] Speaker C: He's the favorite to win Defense player of the year again.
[00:36:04] Speaker B: Who?
[00:36:05] Speaker C: Go bear.
[00:36:06] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:36:07] Speaker B: In my opinion, it was Anthony Davis before he got injured, though. So he was leading the league in blocks.
[00:36:13] Speaker C: Dude, has a rookie ever won it?
[00:36:16] Speaker B: A rookie?
[00:36:16] Speaker C: Wemby's averaging two blocks and a steal.
[00:36:19] Speaker B: I don't know.
I don't think a rookie's won it.
[00:36:25] Speaker C: Will probably did.
I don't know. But if there was a rookie of the year, then he probably won Will.
[00:36:31] Speaker B: I mean, he averaged 50 points a game. If you look at his stats, like.
[00:36:35] Speaker C: Back in the day, both probably won.
[00:36:36] Speaker B: Insane.
[00:36:37] Speaker A: Jordan was rookie of the Year and something else. Was he?
[00:36:40] Speaker C: I don't think he was defensive play of the year, but I think he was on the all defensive team as a rookie.
[00:36:46] Speaker A: I know a center might have done it. I don't want to say Shaq, but.
[00:36:50] Speaker C: I don't think Shaq was that great defensively.
[00:36:52] Speaker A: Was it Hakeem?
[00:36:52] Speaker C: I don't think so. No. Hakeem might have.
Somebody's done.
[00:36:56] Speaker A: I'm thinking one of those.
[00:36:57] Speaker B: I'm not sure going back to this, though. I think the T Wolves are going to win. I don't even know why I was arguing that. I mean, Wimby's good and they got a lot of good pieces with Devin Basell, Kelton Johnson.
[00:37:08] Speaker A: The spurs just need more time, too. Like I said, all these teams just kind of need about 2025 games under their belt to really say. Especially with job Morant coming back around that time, too.
I think everybody needs time. They're probably gel together.
[00:37:24] Speaker C: They're probably going to be out of the playoff race before he even gets back.
[00:37:26] Speaker A: Yeah, we're not stunning the Grizzlies this year.
[00:37:28] Speaker C: No, they're been there actually. Hasn't been anybody ever won. Rookie.
I mean, Defense player of the Year as a rookie, the closest was Alvin Robertson. He wanted his second season. Oh, never heard of him.
[00:37:40] Speaker B: Shout out, Alvin.
[00:37:41] Speaker C: Shout out to Al Dawg if you're.
[00:37:43] Speaker B: Listening to this, which there's definitely probably not.
[00:37:46] Speaker C: No, he's listening.
[00:37:47] Speaker B: Oh, he's listening.
[00:37:48] Speaker C: Well, I talked to him before the show. He said he was going to listen for real.
[00:37:52] Speaker B: Shout out to you, Alvin, man. Appreciate you. Well, basically, next game, Thunder Kings.
That could be a good game. Where is that Thunder Kings? Let me look, let me look.
[00:38:03] Speaker C: No Kings are going to win.
[00:38:04] Speaker A: Kings need to win 50 game. Like you would expect the Kings to win. Especially like with the competition they faced last year.
[00:38:11] Speaker B: It's at.
Yeah, it's at Sacramento. So, I mean, Trey Wiles is out, dear, and Fox is out.
That changes it. I'm going.
Well, hold me. Let me see who's out for them. Let me see who's out for them.
Let me see.
[00:38:34] Speaker A: Yeah. First of all, nobody likes injuries, but they're part of the game. So we hope that everybody gets better.
[00:38:42] Speaker B: Shay's plan.
[00:38:44] Speaker C: Shay's plan.
[00:38:45] Speaker B: Kendrick Williams is the only one out. He's that.
[00:38:47] Speaker A: Well, if Fox is out, you can go ahead and say Thunder might have that.
[00:38:51] Speaker C: Fox being outraged.
[00:38:52] Speaker A: Sabonus can't shoot past mid range.
[00:38:55] Speaker B: He can shoot a little Tory now and then. Pick and Pop. Come on now.
[00:38:58] Speaker A: I'm going to leave him open. I promise.
[00:39:01] Speaker B: I'd never leave Sabonus open.
[00:39:03] Speaker A: Hey, let him shoot.
[00:39:09] Speaker B: Okay, next game we're going Pelicans, Rockets. What do y'all think about that?
[00:39:14] Speaker A: Can go either way to me.
[00:39:16] Speaker C: Five pills.
[00:39:17] Speaker B: Pills?
[00:39:18] Speaker C: Yeah, I go pills.
[00:39:18] Speaker B: I don't know. I kind of believe in this Rockets team right now.
[00:39:22] Speaker A: Jalen GReen.
[00:39:24] Speaker B: I mean, quit playing with him. Dylan Brooks locking people up.
[00:39:29] Speaker C: Brothers.
[00:39:30] Speaker A: Get out of my face with that.
[00:39:34] Speaker C: Brother.
[00:39:35] Speaker B: Hey, he actually played. He didn't score anybody.
[00:39:38] Speaker A: We call Curry again and have him handle that. No, Dylan Brooks is not a lot.
[00:39:43] Speaker B: I think he held LeBron to like 18 or seven.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: LeBron was hurt. He's old. He was sick. He had COVID his knees.
[00:39:50] Speaker C: He held a 38 year old. 18 says a lot.
[00:39:54] Speaker A: About to get.
[00:39:55] Speaker B: It says a lot about his legacy. I mean, come on now.
[00:39:58] Speaker C: That's pretty crazy.
[00:39:59] Speaker A: So you mean to tell me on a bad night, the lockup player is only holding a 40 year old ancient man of 18? Nah, Brody, you're not a lockup to me.
And I'm hating on Dylan Brooks.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:40:12] Speaker B: I had to go with the Rockets in this game. That's just me. I have to go with the Rockets.
[00:40:16] Speaker C: That's fair.
[00:40:20] Speaker B: Let me see if anybody's out in the game or wait. No, it's playing right now.
[00:40:24] Speaker A: Pelicans going to take off on the Rockets.
[00:40:26] Speaker B: It's 31 26 right now. The Pelicans are up live as we speak, but I think the Rockets are going to pull it out.
[00:40:34] Speaker C: No shot.
No shot.
[00:40:37] Speaker B: So you all got pells? I got Rockets.
[00:40:38] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:40:39] Speaker B: I think I see how it is. I see how it is.
[00:40:43] Speaker A: He's going to get right, too, if Zion doesn't. And Ingram, let's not forget about him.
[00:40:48] Speaker B: Well, anyway, that'll conclude this segment. We'll be right back with more, or the last segment for this MBA student podcast. We'll see you all then.
[00:41:09] Speaker A: WVuaFM Tuscaloosa.
[00:41:24] Speaker B: Welcome back to WVUA's 90.7, the Capstone NBA student section. We're gonna be. We're right back with another topic. Rookie of the Year. The Rookie of the Year race, y'all. Who do y'all got? Trey, you want to start USA? You want to start us off?
[00:41:41] Speaker A: Hey, I feel like the NBA already picked their guy, and I'm gonna have to say, wimby, I think he's the front runner to win Rookie of the Year and sound much to debate. Yeah. No, that's Loki. It's in the prophecy.
[00:41:54] Speaker B: Oh, okay. What about you, Adrian?
[00:41:57] Speaker C: Okay, look, Wimby and Yama is going to win it, but just outside chances. I mean, Chet is up there. Asar Thomas for the Pistons has been. He's averaging twelve points, nine rebounds and four assists.
[00:42:11] Speaker B: I Don't think he's going to win, but he's definitely going to be somebody for the future. Thomas Thompson.
[00:42:17] Speaker C: Yeah, I said Thomas. Or SA Thompson. And Brandon Miller has been good, too.
[00:42:22] Speaker B: Brandon Miller has B. Miller has been good.
[00:42:24] Speaker C: He's averaging 14 points a game.
[00:42:26] Speaker A: Bama boy, he's been kind of falling under the radar.
[00:42:29] Speaker C: He makes a lot of highlight plays.
[00:42:31] Speaker A: Yeah, a lot of buz, but he's been contributing.
[00:42:35] Speaker C: And then lively, the guy for the.
[00:42:37] Speaker B: Mavs, your guy, Derek Lively.
[00:42:39] Speaker C: Yeah. You want to talk about him?
[00:42:40] Speaker B: Oh, I got so much to say about him. Dwight Powell, I love you, dude, but we needed a big. We needed that presence. We needed somebody defensively. We needed somebody in the pick and roll for Luca. We needed somebody obviously, defensively, rebounds. We needed all that. The reason we lost to the Raptors last night is because he was not playing. Pascal Siakam went off. I think Gary Trent had like 16.
All these people had, like, OG and Anobi had like, I don't know, 20 something. So, yeah, he's definitely a big deal for our team. Derek Lively is. So I don't know if he's playing today, though, but I sure hope so.
[00:43:17] Speaker C: He's averaging nine and eight.
[00:43:19] Speaker B: Nine and eight.
[00:43:20] Speaker C: That's just nine points, eight rebound.
[00:43:22] Speaker B: That's exactly what we need.
[00:43:23] Speaker C: Is he in the starting lineup right now?
[00:43:25] Speaker B: Oh, yes, he definitely is. There's no doubt he is.
I mean, Dwight Powell is a great center off the bench. He was great for us, but it's just like Kim and Maxie Klibert. Just not enough for those big guys like Embiid Jokic and then all those other mean. Even Anthony Davis when he's healthy.
Keyword, healthy.
[00:43:52] Speaker C: When he's healthy.
[00:43:53] Speaker A: He doesn't stay healthy to save his life.
[00:43:55] Speaker C: No. That dude's always hurt. Kind of touching on the rookies, though. Women. Yama is averaging 19 points per game and eight rebounds and three blocks and a steal.
[00:44:07] Speaker B: Doing it all when you're Greg Popovich at a guy that's 19 years old, what more can you ask?
[00:44:15] Speaker C: Nothing.
He's really good. He is what everybody said he was. I think I text you all about that.
You all think he's got a chance to be an All Star.
[00:44:27] Speaker A: If it's a voting system, too, I.
[00:44:29] Speaker C: Don'T see why the NBA wants him. I mean, you kind of touch them. They want their guys. Far as Rookie of the Year, can.
[00:44:35] Speaker B: Rookies be All Stars? I don't think they can.
[00:44:37] Speaker C: Yeah, there's been a few rookies make the All Star team. I know that to be true. For a fact.
[00:44:42] Speaker B: There has been able to who they.
[00:44:44] Speaker A: Should be able to. Did LeBron make it as a rookie?
[00:44:47] Speaker C: I don't think LeBron did, surprisingly enough.
[00:44:51] Speaker B: Who had?
[00:44:52] Speaker C: I know for a fact Yao Ming made it as a rookie.
[00:44:55] Speaker B: Yao Ming did.
[00:44:55] Speaker C: Wow. Yao Ming.
I think Shaq made it as a rookie. Well, Yao Ming is the only player in NBA history. To make All Star every year of his career.
[00:45:04] Speaker A: I know Jordan did.
[00:45:05] Speaker B: That's crazy.
[00:45:06] Speaker C: Jordan made. Well, he averaged 30 on the Olympic team, too. Yeah, Bo averaged 30 his rookie year.
[00:45:12] Speaker B: 30S rookie year.
[00:45:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
I think he averaged like 29 like his rookie season.
[00:45:17] Speaker B: He took that rookie year personal, man. I mean, quit playing with him, bro.
[00:45:21] Speaker C: Took every year personal.
[00:45:22] Speaker B: That's true. That's fact. Every moment of his day. He just took everything personal for sure.
[00:45:27] Speaker C: Well, Trey, you want to talk on the Curry topic?
[00:45:31] Speaker A: Yeah. So I was scrolling through Instagram, and it was on Bleacher report. You know, the post that they brought up. Where Curry just missed a game winning layup. Or what would have been the game winning layup. And people in the comments were quick to say, oh, that's because Curry's not clutch.
Since when?
Last week.
[00:45:52] Speaker B: Have you been watching the.
[00:45:55] Speaker A: Just goes to show you how quick the fans and just. The Internet is just so quick to switch up. Anyway, everybody loves you when you're up. They give you your props. They're calling you the grace to ever do it. This, that, and third. But as soon as you miss or start having a bad game or whatever, then it just disappears. All the love goes away.
But anyway, I don't know why that's even a debate. Curry is proven to be a clutch player in situations.
[00:46:24] Speaker B: I have been hearing a lot of debates. Greatest point guard of all time about Curry. Me, personally, I did not grow up watching Magic Johnson. Obviously. I'm 18 years old.
[00:46:37] Speaker A: Sure, none of us did.
[00:46:39] Speaker B: But I don't know. He has changed the game.
His three point record. I don't even know when it's going to be broken because all he's doing, he's just adding to it every time he hits a three. And then just the way he's changed the game has just been revolutionary. But Magic Johnson, he did save the game, though, right?
[00:46:59] Speaker C: Well, for me, I'll say on the topic, is he clutch?
It's like Trey said, that's pretty foolish. I don't know how that's a question. He actually has the most game winners since 2012.
[00:47:12] Speaker B: I think they showed that stat since 2012.
[00:47:14] Speaker C: Yeah.
With 5 seconds left. Like fourth quarter overtime. Like, he's hit the most. Go ahead, buckets.
[00:47:21] Speaker B: That's insane.
[00:47:23] Speaker C: I can't name the years, but there's been a couple of years where Curry led the league in clutch points. And I think actually right now he leads the league in clutch points. This year.
It just started. But still, I'm not really sure how this has become a topic since he missed one game winner. He's hit clutch shots in the NBA Finals, many NBA Finals games.
[00:47:45] Speaker B: You.
[00:47:46] Speaker A: He just hit a game winner last.
[00:47:48] Speaker B: On what Trey said.
[00:47:50] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm not sure how that. I don't know. I feel like NBA media, NBA Twitter fans get outraged over one game, and it's always recently biased.
[00:47:59] Speaker A: I mean, it's like they're trying to do him how they did Westbrook last year.
[00:48:02] Speaker C: Yeah, he's clutch.
[00:48:04] Speaker A: Westbrook now. Can't slip up at all.
Anybody really can't slip up at all.
[00:48:09] Speaker C: Or you just get slip up. Grilled.
[00:48:12] Speaker B: Just grilled.
[00:48:12] Speaker A: But let like a famous YouTuber like Flight or somebody like that react because it's over with them.
[00:48:18] Speaker B: React to your. How? It's like this dude's like absolute crap right now. He's just like, he's booty, man.
[00:48:25] Speaker C: Well, touching what you was talking about, though, with the other topic.
I'm always a believer, and I say the same for the Michael Jordan LeBron debate. I think that people get misconstrued on best versus greatest because there's a difference. I think Michael Jordan is the greatest player of all time, but I think.
[00:48:45] Speaker B: Me, too.
[00:48:46] Speaker C: I think LeBron's the best player of all time. Like, he's a better player than Michael Jordan. But Michael Jordan had a greater career as far as accomplishments, and I feel that same exact way about Magic. And mean Magic's got more rings, more All Stars, more Finals MVPs, more like he had a greater career. So I think he's the goat of point guards, but just player wise, like, Stephen Curry is better than him. I think that comes with time. I mean, just over years, scientifically, just naturally, people get better, stronger, faster. Like, if you compare these athletes now to back then, they're just like a guy like Tyrese Halliburton.
He's what? He's a top five point guard. That dude would be the best player in the NBA. Like, if you dropped him off, like in 80 or 90, he'd be so much more physically advanced than everybody else. Genuinely, I think a lot of guys in today's time, I don't know, though, players that are normal players, if you drop them off in the 90s would be, dude, what would Kyrie Irvin do back then?
[00:49:51] Speaker B: It was revolutionary, him playing with Bob Koozie. I mean, like, if we take in.
[00:49:56] Speaker A: The account, like, the league was way more physical back then, first of ball, I don't think Kyrie is going to be able to do all that finesse stuff he gets to do. I think they're just going to tackle him out the air to send a message.
[00:50:07] Speaker B: Bill and beer coming in with, like, a bow to the face.
[00:50:10] Speaker A: And then we had six, seven point guards on average. Let's take Magic Johnson, for example. Oscar Robertson. Who else?
I mean, it was a couple tall guys handling the ball.
Shoot, Clyde was like, 6768 himself, right? Or 6667.
[00:50:29] Speaker C: So you think Kyrie Irvin, if you drop him off in 1985, is a worse player than he is right now?
[00:50:38] Speaker A: No, I'm definitely not saying that.
[00:50:40] Speaker B: I think he would go crazy, dude.
[00:50:42] Speaker C: Dude, I think that he would drop, like, 40 a game.
[00:50:45] Speaker B: I mean, people literally dribble. You all can't see me right now, but people dribbled with their handout, staring down at the ball. They didn't even know what a between the legs. They didn't even know what a crossover was, dude, until Alan Iverson got in the league.
[00:50:58] Speaker A: I mean, I think eVerybody, you know, would adjust, though, because you got to think, like, the only reason people are playing how they play now is know the Kirky effect. Look what he had to do to get everybody wanting to play positionless basketball. So I feel like everybody.
[00:51:11] Speaker C: That's probably a fair point. He would have sped it up, and.
[00:51:16] Speaker B: A lot of times, the carry rule and stuff like that, with these hesitation dribbles, they were more bound to call that because they wanted your hand on top of the ball at all times. If you had it anywhere under the ball, then they would just whistle, like, call it.
And now in the NBA, that's a little bit more lenient. So who knows? He definitely had to adapt to that, too.
[00:51:39] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I agree. I think he would have been a dog, personally. I think he'd been unstoppable.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: I mean, you could throw, like a lot of guys from today's game into the old league, or even some of the older guys into the league now. And Shaq definitely would dominate. He'd probably get like 50 again now.
[00:51:57] Speaker B: Shaq would just kind of see, that's.
[00:51:58] Speaker C: One thing I agree with.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: Strong enough. Who's going to stop Shaq?
[00:52:01] Speaker C: Somebody told me they didn't think that Shaq would dominate today. And I was like, no, he's a.
[00:52:04] Speaker B: Genetic freaking nature, dude.
[00:52:06] Speaker C: Shaq would just completely dominate today's basketball.
[00:52:09] Speaker B: Like, knowing that tall is that big, you get what I'm saying, right? For a period of time, I think they said he was like 300 something.
[00:52:17] Speaker C: He said, did you see the interview?
[00:52:18] Speaker B: Or 400?
[00:52:19] Speaker C: He said he was 415 which I think is kind of cap.
[00:52:23] Speaker B: No way he said it.
[00:52:25] Speaker C: You think he was 415, though? Not 415. I'm going to be honest, dude. What do you think?
[00:52:29] Speaker A: Dude, if it was, it wasn't all like pure muscle.
[00:52:32] Speaker C: It would have. Yeah, not four.
[00:52:34] Speaker B: Billy had a little bit too much Papa John's or something.
[00:52:37] Speaker C: Bro, 415 is crazy. I don't know. I just think he'd be out of shape.
[00:52:42] Speaker B: That'd probably be probably in his heat day, because I remember he talked about it, his time in the Miami Heat, and Pat Riley wanted him to get to a certain body fat percentage, and that was like a big struggle.
[00:52:52] Speaker C: Well, no, he said it was. He said in LA.
He said on the three peat that they were during the three peat in the last year, he was 415.
[00:53:03] Speaker B: That's what it was in LA.
[00:53:04] Speaker C: Yes. When he was a Laker, Shaq said he was 415 pounds in the last year. So that would have been what, two? Was that two?
[00:53:10] Speaker A: He wanted to get traded by then anyway. Like, he wanted out, right? Him and Kobe was going back and forth.
[00:53:15] Speaker B: He was like, the transformation between him at the magic and then him at the Lakers was like pretty much night and day because he was like, kind of like, he wasn't skinny, but he was more defined and stuff with his muscle. But when he was with LA, I mean, dude was. He's a big man. Big man.
[00:53:32] Speaker A: Just question, though. So take Prime Shaq versus Prime Giannis. Like, you really think if Shaq posts him up, you think Giannis is going to be able to stop that, even with the muscle he's put on? I don't think Giannis is going, like, nobody's going to stop Shaq. He's definitely the most dominant big man I know.
[00:53:49] Speaker B: Wimby isn't. Wimby is. I think Wimby would just get dogged.
[00:53:55] Speaker C: Shaq.
[00:53:56] Speaker B: I think so.
[00:53:59] Speaker A: Shaq would break Wimby, man, if Shaq trips on his own feet, Wimby's getting knocked.
[00:54:04] Speaker C: Yeah, dude.
Something just tells me that ends with injury, and the injury is not going to be to Shaq.
[00:54:11] Speaker B: I mean, band exercises and stuff are not enough for Shaq, bro, you need to get in that weight room, able to stop Shaq.
[00:54:18] Speaker A: They still get knocked.
[00:54:21] Speaker B: So who do you think the only person that could guard Shaq now would be?
[00:54:24] Speaker C: Nobody.
[00:54:25] Speaker B: I think the only person that could possibly guard him would be Joel Embade. Possibly.
[00:54:31] Speaker A: I give it to Ad.
[00:54:32] Speaker C: I'd give it ad over him.
[00:54:34] Speaker B: MB just has more size, though.
[00:54:35] Speaker C: But he's not great defensively.
[00:54:37] Speaker B: But I just think he's the only person, like, his build is the only person that can compete with him, in my opinion.
[00:54:43] Speaker A: Zion, I give it to Zion before.
[00:54:48] Speaker C: No shot.
[00:54:48] Speaker B: I think it would be either Embiid or Yannis, because Yanis is a little bit more versatile and stuff. And then Embiid is just the only guy that, he's the only guy with that tall and still, like, that size. He's the only person that kind of sort of resembles Shaq in that manner.
[00:55:06] Speaker C: I'd say Yanis Giannis is, like, strong, like, long arms.
[00:55:13] Speaker A: But nobody's stopping Shaq.
[00:55:14] Speaker C: Nobody's stopping Shaq. Yeah. Nobody would stop Shaq.
[00:55:18] Speaker A: Nobody stopping.
[00:55:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Shaq is just, like, absolutely insane. But that's going to conclude it for our NBA student section. Thank you all for tuning in, and we'll see y'all. Peace.
