Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM tuscaloosa.
[00:00:13] Speaker B: You are listening to the student section NFL on WVUA 90.7, the Capstone. We are back and we better get underway with our discussion about the Steelers and the Ravens. Just pretty much guys, what's your takeaway and what do you think about this game? I mean, obviously I think a lot coming into this game, a lot of people were high on the Ravens, especially because about how the Steelers offense has been looking as of recently. But, man, it seems like the Ravens just let that one slip away.
[00:00:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I don't really take anything away from this game. Like bad about the ravens. Just mean they've suffered from all I can remember is every pass they had was to drop. I know Nelson Aguilar had a terrible drop. I know Rashad Bateman had a bad drop in the end zone. I know flowers had everybody. It was just it was terrible. They all need to hop on the jug machine, just get out the system. I think they'll be straight, though, moving forward.
[00:01:02] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:02] Speaker C: But I think the Steelers just showed a lot know, flashes on the offensive side of the I just my favorite thing know the game winning touchdown with George Pickens. You're looking up at the offensive coordinator booth and look at Matt Canada. And as the play is going on, he's just sitting there with the straight face, no reaction as everyone's going crazy.
Kenny Pickett audible to some different play.
I did not react at that's what I've been seeing. I don't think he did, but it kind of gives that vibe the way he was just like, unhappy.
[00:01:33] Speaker B: That would be amazing if he called an audible. And that's what happened because as we know, there's been rumors of just him. Like well, not rumors, but we've seen the fans literally say, fire Matt Canada, which they should. Yeah. I mean, understandably so. But also just the fact that I don't know if you guys seen those reports. We don't know if it's true, but it's kind of similar to the Celtics. I mean, that referee in the NBA, he was winning games for the apparently Matt Canada, he's he's got a little burner account doing some things and I guess the fans have figured that out. So, I mean, it's not confirmed, but if NBA twitter I'm not NBA twitter. If NFL Twitter can get to the bottom of things, they've been right about a few times about a certain stuff.
[00:02:14] Speaker A: If there's any Twitter account that is pro Matt Canada, it's the Burner.
[00:02:18] Speaker B: Yeah, probably it is the Burner.
[00:02:20] Speaker C: There's no you have any type of football knowledge if you think Matt Canada is a good offensive coordinator?
[00:02:24] Speaker B: Yeah, it's struggling to see especially seeing how much talent that they have.
Not TJ ward. Is it TJ? Warren? The backup running back jalen Warren. I'm stuck on TJ.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: Watt. Sound like he's mixed up TJ. Watt and Jalen Warren.
[00:02:40] Speaker B: But yeah, I'm thinking of basketball too. I got so many things going on. But also sorry, man. Najee Harris, he just hasn't gotten off to the start. We would liked Pat Friarmouth. I know he's been struggling a little bit this season. He's also been dealing with injuries.
Deontay Johnson is just out for the season. I know that's a big loss.
[00:02:57] Speaker C: He's not out for the season, but he's coming back.
[00:03:02] Speaker A: The that was really the first dialogue about him was that he was going to probably be back week seven.
[00:03:08] Speaker B: Okay. I thought he was coming back, if anything, maybe postseason. But yeah, that's good to hear.
[00:03:13] Speaker A: For the Steelers, I think they need him back, man.
[00:03:14] Speaker C: They do need him back.
[00:03:16] Speaker A: They need a guy who can move like you can on the outside. I think they're missing that a little bit.
[00:03:19] Speaker C: A lot of their receivers, you look at George Pickens, you look at Alan Robinson and all these receivers they have out there, they're a lot of go up and get the ball kind of receivers. They don't have anyone that can create.
[00:03:27] Speaker A: Separation, separators at all.
[00:03:29] Speaker C: Yeah, but Deontay Johnson, the route running, he's an insane separator. So I feel like if you just get him on the field, the whole offense is going to open up. Absolutely.
[00:03:37] Speaker B: And then one thing, I think that's going underneath the radar, just defensively for the Steelers, their rookie, Joey Porter Jr. I mean, kind of just making a name for himself. He's looking good. Yeah.
[00:03:47] Speaker A: He's flying underneath the good thing, especially as a DB. Exactly.
[00:03:53] Speaker C: Very great.
[00:03:53] Speaker B: You look at Emmanuel Forbes right back to back to back. Yeah. When I say that name, you know what I'm talking about.
[00:04:00] Speaker C: We know Emmanuel Forbes.
[00:04:04] Speaker B: So you're not worried about that division at all?
[00:04:06] Speaker C: You still uh I think the Bengals, if Joe Burrow gets right, I think the Bengals will have an opportunity to take this division.
[00:04:13] Speaker A: They have the capability to go on a run. I mean, we see what they did with a much worse team two years ago.
[00:04:18] Speaker D: Oh, yeah, I did say the Bengals aren't back, but I've thought all season that the Ravens weren't that great of a team. And they kind of just proved it to me this past weekend. So I will say I think Bengals are going to win the division.
[00:04:33] Speaker B: Okay, is that more so because the Ravens are bad?
[00:04:37] Speaker C: I don't know if I like the word. I don't know if, like, players drop.
[00:04:42] Speaker A: Some balls and now they're a bad team.
[00:04:43] Speaker D: Well, they've had bad wins and bad losses. Like, they've lost to Steelers, who I think consents, like, everyone beat the Bengals, though. They're kind of bad. They beat the Bengals, who have been awful, and then they lost to a good young Colts team. But right.
Really had any impressive wins, the Browns, 28 to three.
[00:05:08] Speaker A: That's fair.
[00:05:09] Speaker C: 20.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: I still think that did they have.
[00:05:10] Speaker D: Chubb at that point?
[00:05:12] Speaker A: Yeah, they did.
[00:05:13] Speaker C: I'm pretty sure. Yeah.
[00:05:14] Speaker A: That was like week two or something like that, right? Something along that.
[00:05:18] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:05:18] Speaker D: Either way I don't think the rest.
[00:05:20] Speaker C: No, they did not have Nick Chubb.
[00:05:21] Speaker A: They did fair. That's fair. Great call. I still think Lamar is I think Lamar is playing really good football, man.
[00:05:27] Speaker D: Lamar's been good.
[00:05:28] Speaker B: Where do you guys have him in your MVP conversation? I know he's probably not number one but he's probably top three or top five.
[00:05:36] Speaker A: I think for me he's got to be top five.
[00:05:38] Speaker B: Top five.
[00:05:38] Speaker A: I think he's played good enough football for this season. But that being said the MVP race is a little there's no clear cut guy right now.
[00:05:46] Speaker C: I think there is a clear cut guy.
[00:05:48] Speaker B: Is it CMC?
[00:05:48] Speaker C: Yeah, I think it's CMC.
[00:05:49] Speaker B: I think it's CMC too.
[00:05:51] Speaker A: I just don't think a running back's.
[00:05:52] Speaker C: Gonna I don't think I don't think it's so either but yeah, no I just still think he's doing things like unheard of.
[00:05:56] Speaker B: Right.
[00:05:56] Speaker A: He'd be my yeah sure. But I don't know.
[00:05:59] Speaker B: It's like JJ watt when he was like almost gonna win MVP, he was.
[00:06:03] Speaker A: Like, right I'm rooting for that guy. But anyway, the things I would do for Christian McCaffrey to win MVP, man, especially that would be so cool to see it hurt a little bit but it would be really cool to see.
[00:06:13] Speaker C: You should be like, you know what, panthers are not doing me well. Let me be a 49 Ers fan.
[00:06:18] Speaker B: Homer Simpson, you go in the bush.
[00:06:21] Speaker A: Actually the more, I mean we traded 2 seconds, two thirds and a fourth I think or something like that for him. And if we traded that for an MVP running back that would be a.
[00:06:32] Speaker B: Little rough, a little depressing but yeah. So let me ask you guys. I want to introduce a new segment. It's called nothing or something. So I'm going to name some topics and you tell me where you guys think if it's something big, something to look out for or just don't even give it any attention. With that being said, let's start off with the Jonathan Taylor extension.
[00:06:49] Speaker A: Before we start, do we have any level correlation to like the nuke and.
[00:06:55] Speaker C: We kind of need court, we need to rank.
[00:06:57] Speaker A: I can't do this without that stuff.
[00:06:58] Speaker B: Now if you want to do that by all means.
Different levels. What was it stub your toe for level?
[00:07:05] Speaker C: It was like stub your toe, left.
[00:07:07] Speaker B: Out milk, left the stove on, spoiled milk, gas on, you left the gas.
[00:07:10] Speaker D: On and then a nuclear.
[00:07:16] Speaker A: Think. I think it's definitely something. I think we were all pretty confident that Taylor was going to be going somewhere for a least I'm not going to say that I was confident. It kind of seemed like one of those things where he was just going to end up back in the same place just because not that many teams seemed interested enough. And the Colts still kind of knew what they had.
[00:07:36] Speaker C: Zach Moss has looked good, right?
[00:07:38] Speaker A: He has looked good, but I don't know. I'm excited to I would like to see Jonathan Taylor in the form that he was two years ago. That guy was fun to watch, man. This combination of strength and speed and athleticism, which that's what all running backs are. But he is a truly fast, a truly strong, and he can really move.
The offensive line, I think still could improve a little bit. But I'm excited to see Jonathan Taylor play football, meaningful football again.
[00:08:04] Speaker C: Yeah, I definitely think it's something because before the season started, all we hear is the comments between him and I had a brain.
[00:08:16] Speaker B: It sounds like it's still happening.
[00:08:20] Speaker C: Let me do a quick reset. I think it's something because of Jim Ursay and what his camp, Jonathan Taylor's camp was like. Going back and forth, the comments they were making about how running backs aren't needed, how they don't need to pay him, stuff like this. And then out of nowhere, he comes off of IR and he signs this extension. So I think it's definitely something. He's definitely going to be here to stay.
[00:08:38] Speaker A: No trade.
[00:08:39] Speaker B: You know, if I'm a Colts fan, I'm ecstatic for this news, but I'm also a little bit down just because as soon as you get Jonathan Taylor back, anthony Richardson is out.
[00:08:47] Speaker A: I'm excited for the combination of Taylor and Richardson.
[00:08:50] Speaker B: If Shane Stichen gets that RPO game going, it's going to be like just scary hours.
[00:08:55] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:08:56] Speaker B: But just exciting news for the Colts fans. And you got to forget about last season. This makes up for it, in my opinion, right where they are now. Jonathan Taylor coming back. You got him locked up and now you got your quarterback in the future.
Michael Pittman looks good as too. You probably can sign up to a cheap deal, under the radar deal. I don't know how much that would.
[00:09:15] Speaker A: Be, but I've definitely slept on Michael Pittman before. But it's good to see at least one guy. It's good to see a playmaker at every skill position. I guess they're still waiting on tight.
[00:09:26] Speaker C: End, but Mo Ali Cox has shown flashes, though. But he's still not.
[00:09:30] Speaker A: We're talking about Mo ali Cox.
[00:09:32] Speaker C: That's true.
[00:09:32] Speaker A: You know what I mean?
[00:09:33] Speaker C: If we're talking about tight ends, I don't really think anyone's bringing up Mo Ali Cox.
[00:09:37] Speaker B: Could you imagine? They got like Brock Bowers or something?
[00:09:39] Speaker C: Oh, my God.
[00:09:41] Speaker B: It's not going to say anything.
[00:09:44] Speaker A: That would actually be the coolest thing ever.
[00:09:45] Speaker B: Right? I just that offense would be amazing. So another thing to look out for, we got some couple players on IR. Let's start with Devin Evan. How do you say his last name?
[00:09:53] Speaker D: A chain.
[00:09:53] Speaker B: A chain, okay. Yeah, devin a chain. So what are your thoughts on Devin A chain? I know you're the Miami Dolphins fan.
[00:09:58] Speaker D: Nothing or something.
[00:09:59] Speaker B: Nothing something or whatever level you want to choose.
[00:10:02] Speaker D: I'd be more on the nothing side just because it doesn't seem like too major of an injury. He'll be back maybe five, six weeks at the most. And we're just now getting Jeff Wilson back and looking back to last year, he wasn't a special running back. He wasn't great. But he's one of those guys you can hand it off to on first down, he's going to get six, seven yards every time. And we've already seen what mostert can do, and that passing tack. So it's a loss, but it's not a big loss.
[00:10:32] Speaker B: Right. So basically you guys are losing speed, but you guys got more speed on the way, right? Especially with the addition of Chase Claypool. Now, what did.
[00:10:42] Speaker D: Top three wide receiver.
[00:10:45] Speaker B: What were your thoughts on Chase Claypool when that trade happened?
[00:10:48] Speaker C: I don't care.
[00:10:49] Speaker A: Chase, he's not the best.
[00:10:51] Speaker B: Speaks for a real Dolphins fan, right? Probably how most people feel. That's funny, but yeah. What are you guys'thoughts on the Devon Ha?
[00:10:59] Speaker C: I think it's really nothing like he was mean. You get Jeff Olsen back, so they're going to get another running back in place, and he's not going to be out for that long. So I think it's whatever, really.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:11:12] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:11:13] Speaker A: Maybe you want to worry a little bit about a guy who plays that position having a knee injury this early. But again, four or five weeks probably.
I think he'll be back in probably won't skip a beat.
When you asked him his name earlier, and he said, oh, yeah, it's Devon a chan. And you said oh, yeah. So what do you think about Devon HHN? That was the immediate response.
[00:11:37] Speaker B: Oh, really?
[00:11:41] Speaker A: I had to talk about that after I heard it.
[00:11:44] Speaker B: For those listening, we're still getting used to this new setup. So Evan's in the other room, and he got exiled. He's in the exile, so I can't hear him that well.
[00:11:52] Speaker A: It's all right.
[00:11:53] Speaker B: My fault, Evan. That's my bad. It's all good.
But getting on to other players on the IR, what about James Connor for the Cardinals?
[00:12:01] Speaker A: I think Demercado has played some has already played a few games.
[00:12:06] Speaker B: Correct.
[00:12:06] Speaker A: And I think he's looked good.
[00:12:07] Speaker C: Yeah, he's looked pretty good.
[00:12:08] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:12:09] Speaker C: I don't really think it's anything major because the Cardinals are still not really battling for anything, still just one of these guys. So I think James Connor missing time is not going to be that big of a deal.
The other running back, he's looked pretty great in the stats he's gotten so far.
[00:12:23] Speaker B: Nothing really to worry about there, especially for a team that doesn't have that much.
[00:12:27] Speaker A: Exactly. They're not making a mean.
[00:12:29] Speaker B: That's a fair point.
But what about this one was definitely a big loss. The Vikings are losing Justin Jefferson, so he's now being placed on IR. So that opens up a bunch of questions, but just your thoughts.
[00:12:43] Speaker A: I will be really curious to see how that team operates without him for a full game, for multiple full way. The way I've watched Vikings football is that it is Justin Jefferson, a little bit of Kirk Cousins and then everybody else. You know what?
I'm curious to see how Kirk Cousins plays without Justin Jefferson because, I mean, Justin Jefferson very well could be the best receiver in football. And I don't know. It makes the trade conversation around Kirk interesting because if they're trying to make those calls right now and then Kirk struggles for the next few games and maybe there's a narrative around that know, maybe Justin Jefferson played a big role in his current but again, very, very speculative. It could very well be. Kirk Cousins is still a good football player. I do believe he's a good football player. But it'll definitely be interesting to see what he plays like without his elite star wide receiver and Justin Jefferson.
[00:13:42] Speaker C: Yeah, it's it's kind of hard to say. It's not nothing because it's Justin Jefferson, I think, who is the best wide receiver in to, I guess, get better looks at Jordan Addison.
[00:13:55] Speaker B: He's nice.
[00:13:56] Speaker C: He's looked good. But let's see what he does as a wide receiver, one for however long he's out. Still want to see what Cam Acres is going to do on this football team? Because I haven't heard of him. I haven't heard his name since being traded TD. Hawkinson needs to step up.
[00:14:10] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair with Cam Acres. But he's going to a team that already it's not like they're going to be like, all right, Cam, you're the guy. You know what matter up after the.
[00:14:20] Speaker C: Eagles game with Alexander Madison, all the fumbles loss, I feel like that was.
[00:14:23] Speaker A: A brutal it was for Madison.
[00:14:25] Speaker C: You got to say, Cam, like, we traded for you. Let's see what you can do. So I feel as though they should have put them in a little bit more.
[00:14:33] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:34] Speaker C: But it's whatever. This team's not doing anything this year. It's already said and done, I think.
[00:14:39] Speaker B: So you guys are like, so you're saying something.
[00:14:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm saying a little bit of something.
[00:14:43] Speaker B: And Tanner, you're saying I'm definitely going to say something.
[00:14:45] Speaker C: It's definitely something because of their future going forward.
[00:14:47] Speaker D: Yeah, I think it has a lot to do with their future. I said when we were talking about the O. And three teams, if they can't find a way to turn it around since Kirk and Justin Jefferson have looked like some of their only bright spots all season, if they couldn't turn it around, I think both those people are going to get frustrated and Justin Jefferson being out, they're not going to get any better. They're already one and four. They're going to lose most of their upcoming games. I think that just is going to brew a lot of frustration, disappointment. I think the Vikings are not in a downward spiral, but maybe rolling down the hill kind of.
[00:15:26] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay, I see what you're saying.
[00:15:28] Speaker A: Rolling down the hill. I like it.
[00:15:29] Speaker B: So you all agree that it's kind of something. It's not nothing. But does it add any emphasis when I say the Vikings are working out Colt McCoy right now? And there's speculation that the reason they're bringing another quarterback right now is because they're getting ready to look for offers for Kirk Cousins right now. I guess the two top teams being mentioned in these rumors are the Atlanta Falcons and still the New York Jets. And I just wanted to pick your brain about that. Would you rather see? For me, personally, I think it'd be.
[00:15:55] Speaker A: Really cool to see Atlanta get like I would, too.
[00:15:59] Speaker C: That's who my guy would be.
[00:16:00] Speaker B: And I would love for Kirk to go to Atlanta more. So the jets also I'm sorry to say that the jets fans, but yeah, I just think imagine, like, Atlanta, I feel like it's very close because they have a lot of pieces, but they're still not fully there yet.
[00:16:13] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:14] Speaker A: There's a few things that I think should change in Atlanta. We talked about Pitts a lot, and I honestly really don't think that Arthur Smith is like I don't think it's Arthur Smith either. I think he's developed a very good run game, did it last year, and it's been I mean, Tyler Algeria, I truly do believe is a talented player, but he was not a high pick, and he had a 1000 yard season last year, and they had a really good rushing offense all year. My only I guess this is probably everybody's only gripe is that Kyle Pitts is not being used how you would have thought Kyle Pitts would be used, being picked at eight. I believe he was picked at yeah.
[00:16:59] Speaker B: I want to say or was it fourth? I want to say I thought it was fourth. Yeah, I think it might have been.
[00:17:02] Speaker D: Fourth, I think before Jalen WATLES.
[00:17:04] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah.
[00:17:05] Speaker A: Wow. Never mind.
[00:17:05] Speaker B: I think he went really high. I think was the highest drafted tight end ever.
[00:17:09] Speaker A: I knew he was the highest drafted tight end.
[00:17:10] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:17:10] Speaker C: Fourth overall.
[00:17:11] Speaker A: Wow.
[00:17:12] Speaker B: Because I was really hoping he fell to Philly.
[00:17:14] Speaker C: Yeah, I was hoping that, too.
[00:17:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Because he's from Philadelphia.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: My point stands, I guess, that taking it four and he's not getting the usage that you would have liked to have had from him.
But I don't know.
It's a tough thing to predict with the Falcons when the quarterback is so uncertain.
[00:17:32] Speaker B: Right.
[00:17:33] Speaker A: It's hard to tell if it really is the skill positions or if there's a deeper problem within the team.
[00:17:38] Speaker B: And I think if you trade for Kirk, you get your answer. And that's where I'm coming from.
[00:17:42] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:17:43] Speaker B: For someone with Kirk who's having a great year, too, he's got 1498 yards, 13 touchdowns on the season with only four interceptions. I just think him coming in at this age, he'll be kind of a veteran presence and definitely be able to provide veteran leadership and mentorship to the young talent that they have building over there. And plus, you have Bijean Robinson, so, like, literally, you could be like the Brock pretty for the absolutely.
[00:18:07] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:09] Speaker C: I do want to see Kirk Cousins on the Falcons just because I think he can actually get the ball to Kyle Pitts. He can get the ball to the weapons, like Mac Hollins, Drake London. I mean, are we really saying weapons for Mac Hollins and Drake?
[00:18:20] Speaker D: Mac hollins is good.
[00:18:21] Speaker C: Matt Collins is good. But is he really, like, also someone.
[00:18:24] Speaker B: You would how did Mac Hollins just go from like because when he was playing for the Eagles, he was so skinny.
[00:18:29] Speaker C: He was so skinny. He was just a single deep threat kind of guy. Now he's good.
[00:18:33] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:18:34] Speaker B: You saw that clip of him yelling at Desmond Ritter.
[00:18:36] Speaker C: Yeah, that's why I'm like they need.
[00:18:38] Speaker D: Some of that veteran leadership in that.
[00:18:40] Speaker B: I think Kirk can definitely bring that.
[00:18:42] Speaker D: What'S his name, matt Ryan kind of guy.
[00:18:44] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, I think Kirk would probably be better than Matt. Well, I don't know.
[00:18:47] Speaker C: Actually, I kind of like Matt Ryan and Kirk as, like, a comparison.
[00:18:52] Speaker A: Yeah, they do have the worst comparison ever, I would say.
[00:18:56] Speaker B: Not at all.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Really?
[00:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, the more I think about it.
[00:18:59] Speaker D: I kind of even got the same.
[00:19:06] Speaker B: Rose.
[00:19:07] Speaker A: This is the kind of content that we bring you here at the student section.
[00:19:11] Speaker B: You're welcome.
[00:19:11] Speaker A: You're welcome.
[00:19:12] Speaker B: Another thing, another rumor going on is like, if a lot of people are thinking that the Vikings this is a rumor I saw on ESPN.com or NFL Network. I'm sorry, I have to check which one, but pretty much it's just Baker to the Vikings.
[00:19:26] Speaker C: No, I wouldn't say I don't like it.
[00:19:29] Speaker A: Personally, I don't think the Bucks have any reason to get rid of Baker Mayfield right now.
[00:19:32] Speaker B: Yeah, I don't think so.
[00:19:33] Speaker D: He's been leadership in that Bucks locker room. Yeah, I think Baker anyone wants him gone?
[00:19:36] Speaker C: I don't think he wants but if we're talking about trades and stuff, the Broncos, I feel like the buyer sale is going to come up. I think no one is safe on that team, including Patrick Sir. Tane absolutely. Justin Simmons that whole secondary, I think, is in trouble.
[00:19:50] Speaker B: We just saw they just traded Randy Gregory to the 49 ers, the rich get richer. And if it truly is a fire sale, Howie, Justin Simmons, that's a name to look out for.
[00:20:01] Speaker D: I think he's the best safety in the NFL for the past.
[00:20:04] Speaker A: Justin Simmons.
[00:20:04] Speaker C: Justin Simmons.
[00:20:05] Speaker B: Wow.
[00:20:07] Speaker D: Him and derwin James.
[00:20:08] Speaker A: I was going to say, are you aware of the existence of Derwin?
[00:20:10] Speaker C: Yeah, I think Derwin James is maybe easily the best, but both of them.
[00:20:14] Speaker D: Have been kind of out for a large majority of the past three, four years.
[00:20:19] Speaker A: Minka Fitzpatrick. Are you taking Justin Simmons over? Minka Fitzpatrick?
[00:20:22] Speaker D: I have a deep, deep hatred for Minka Fitzpatrick.
[00:20:26] Speaker A: We should get into that a little bit later.
[00:20:28] Speaker B: We're at Alabama, right? Yeah.
[00:20:31] Speaker D: I'm looking at this through the lens of a dolphins fan.
[00:20:34] Speaker C: He was pretty bad with you.
[00:20:36] Speaker D: I don't know.
[00:20:36] Speaker A: He was horrible.
[00:20:37] Speaker B: I forgot. I completely forgot. He was, like, over there.
[00:20:40] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:20:41] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Yeah, I get it now.
[00:20:42] Speaker D: Him and Brian Flores are public enemy number one and number one a and one b.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: Hey, I don't mind that. I understand your frustration right there. But when we come back, we're going to talk a little bit more. I want to ask you guys a little bit about what you think about the Mac Jones situations. And, Tanner, you can give us a little insight. DJ Moore. Comeback season, maybe.
[00:21:01] Speaker A: I'll sure try.
[00:21:02] Speaker B: All right. You go listening to the student section NFL. I'm back with my guys. Connor Rolls, Tanner Thompson and Evan Cisaneros. Oh, yeah. There we go.
[00:21:45] Speaker A: I'm nailing it every week out of approval. Every show.
[00:21:47] Speaker B: I have to look I just have to make sure I got the AOK. All right, so we are back. We're going to continue our conversation. I want to ask you about Mac Jones, the Patriots sort of looking down bad and pretty sad. So let me ask you guys, what are you guys feeling about the Patriots?
[00:22:01] Speaker C: Evan, you just raise your hand. I think it's your turn. I need to find a way to.
[00:22:04] Speaker D: Get some attention in here.
I hate to say it, because I do not like Mac Jones. Dirty player. Dirty, dirty, and obviously division rivals.
[00:22:14] Speaker C: You just hate Alabama players, don't you?
[00:22:17] Speaker A: You just hate everything. How many Alabama players can we mac.
[00:22:19] Speaker D: Jones best quarterback other than two in the AFC east? No, I'm playing.
[00:22:28] Speaker C: What did you just say?
[00:22:30] Speaker D: I was retracting my statement.
[00:22:32] Speaker B: Okay.
[00:22:33] Speaker D: Anyways, I do not like him, but he has looked good, decent. All right.
[00:22:44] Speaker A: You have been talking for 30 seconds.
[00:22:45] Speaker B: And I have no idea what your.
[00:22:46] Speaker A: Tickets I'm still waiting.
[00:22:49] Speaker B: He looks good, decent. All right.
[00:22:51] Speaker A: He's bad, but he's also good and all right.
[00:22:53] Speaker B: But he's also a dirty player. Dirty, dirty, dirty, dirty player.
[00:22:56] Speaker A: But then he's also the second best quarterback in the AFC east.
[00:22:59] Speaker B: He's doing pretty good.
[00:23:00] Speaker A: He's also doing pretty good.
[00:23:02] Speaker D: I do not like Mac Jones because he's a dirty player and division, but from what I've seen from him this year, I think he's been okay. I don't think he's the problem in New England completely. I don't think he's a great quarterback. I don't think he's the second best quarterback in AFC east. But I was just joking earlier.
[00:23:24] Speaker A: But.
[00:23:25] Speaker D: I think he's looked okay. I wouldn't say he's their problem.
[00:23:27] Speaker B: What do you think their biggest problem is, then? Do you think it's coaching, or you think it's just not having any receivers or running game? Like, just everything.
[00:23:36] Speaker C: I don't know.
[00:23:38] Speaker D: Lack of Tom Brady.
[00:23:39] Speaker A: The current probably lack of Tom Brady. So if it's the lack of Tom Brady, then what does that mean for Mac Jones?
[00:23:46] Speaker D: Even though he isn't the greatest of all time?
[00:23:48] Speaker B: Okay, I mean, that's a fair but.
[00:23:49] Speaker A: Mac Jones is still a decent player.
[00:23:51] Speaker D: But dirt, he's better, but dirty. But he's also good.
[00:23:55] Speaker A: He's also good.
[00:23:56] Speaker B: I see where you're coming from.
[00:23:57] Speaker D: I think he's gotten better than he has been in past years. And what does that tell you?
[00:24:04] Speaker B: Not much.
[00:24:05] Speaker D: If they're worse now and he's better.
[00:24:07] Speaker B: Then I would say, though, this first year, the first two years what was it the first year?
[00:24:12] Speaker C: The one he was on the Pro Bowl.
[00:24:16] Speaker D: That was a gift.
[00:24:18] Speaker C: It was a gift.
[00:24:19] Speaker A: Wasn't Tyler Huntley in that same pro bowl or something like that?
[00:24:22] Speaker C: No, it was last year's Pro Bowl.
[00:24:23] Speaker A: Last year's. Okay. No one cares about the Pro Bowl. Let's be completely yeah, let's be completely honest for a second.
[00:24:28] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:24:28] Speaker A: No one should.
[00:24:29] Speaker B: You're completely right. Good call, Connor. I completely forgot about that gritty. He did the Pro Bowl.
[00:24:36] Speaker C: I was appalled.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: You were just so genuinely disgusted right there. Okay, well, I think it's safe to say that the Patriots are probably going to finish with a top five pick on as much as I hate to say that or I love to say that, actually, I can't tell if it's a good or a bad thing. Really.
[00:24:49] Speaker C: I mean, it's kind of weird because we can all see that Bill Belichick sucks at drafting, so he might just draft.
[00:24:56] Speaker B: He's going for Brock Bowers.
[00:24:59] Speaker A: That'd be pretty cool.
[00:25:00] Speaker C: Yeah, but then that offense.
[00:25:02] Speaker D: You got to have two good tight ends. I mean, obviously Brock Bowers is better, but yeah, that's not where I think.
[00:25:09] Speaker C: Brock Bowers might be better than Mike isicki. I wouldn't go too far.
[00:25:13] Speaker D: They have three good tight ends.
[00:25:15] Speaker C: I completely forgot about rock Bowers is ten times better than no, sure.
They got where they need. Wait, so it's Hunter, Henry, Mike Asicki, and who else?
[00:25:26] Speaker D: Johnny Smith still, right?
[00:25:27] Speaker C: No, Johnny Smith was Atlanta.
[00:25:28] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Never mind.
[00:25:29] Speaker A: Two good tight ends. I can't remember when he actually I.
[00:25:32] Speaker C: Think it was like week one two. It was like really early in the yeah, yeah.
[00:25:37] Speaker B: But it's either because I don't think they're personally, I don't think they're going to get high enough to get Marvin.
[00:25:41] Speaker C: Harrison or probably I think Marvin Harrison's gonna end up with the Bears.
[00:25:45] Speaker A: Mac Jones would thank the heavens if they ended up with Marvin Harrison.
[00:25:49] Speaker C: I don't think Mac Jones would be there if they ended up with Marvin Harrison.
[00:25:52] Speaker A: I don't know. Marvin Harrison might save mac Jones'career, I think manages to stay there, and they went with Marvin Harrison.
[00:26:00] Speaker C: If the Patriots have a top five pick this year and are in the running to get Marvin Harrison, mac Jones is no longer on this team.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: What are they going to do with him?
[00:26:08] Speaker C: Trade him, cut him, do something, just get him off the team.
[00:26:10] Speaker A: Why would he not I mean, he doesn't have to keep starting his quarterback, but I don't think you have any reason to not keep Mack on the roster.
[00:26:16] Speaker C: I just feel like it changed, that change of scenery.
[00:26:19] Speaker A: That's fair. I guess.
[00:26:21] Speaker B: I see what you're saying. Sell. It kind of sell. Well, not you're not selling high, but.
[00:26:25] Speaker A: I'm also a former Mac Jones believer, so there may be some bias in my thoughts on this.
[00:26:31] Speaker C: I'm not a believer just because of all the weapons he had that's college.
[00:26:34] Speaker A: I thought he was going to go to the 49 Ers. That was when I did, too, of my believing in Mac Jones when he was potentially a 49 Er.
[00:26:40] Speaker B: But speaking of Marvin Harrison potentially going to the Bears, that's what you're calling Connor? Well, let me ask you not Marvin Harrison related, but DJ Moore.
[00:26:49] Speaker C: He obviously had a great my savior in my fantasy football league. Yeah, I think, DJ, I'm going to say thank you to you because you saved my team. My team was looking very poor with all the injuries we've been having.
[00:27:03] Speaker A: Right.
[00:27:03] Speaker C: And, man, DJ Moore, you stepped up for me in a big way.
[00:27:07] Speaker A: I bet he's hearing this right now.
[00:27:09] Speaker C: I hope he is because send you.
[00:27:11] Speaker A: An X DM and say, hey, no, it's Twitter.
[00:27:14] Speaker C: No one calls.
[00:27:15] Speaker A: He's probably going to send you an X DM and he's going to say, hey, man, I heard what you said. Just wanted to say thank you.
[00:27:21] Speaker C: And I'm just going to be like, of course, man, you've done wonders. I might just send up little bro. You're doing me wonders right now. Might send him a DM on Instagram tonight.
[00:27:34] Speaker B: Let me ask you this. It's the Bears turning it around. Is that something to look out for? Is that nothing or something?
[00:27:40] Speaker C: No, they're definitely not turning around. They played the Broncos and the they've.
[00:27:45] Speaker B: Looked DJ Moore looks like.
[00:27:51] Speaker A: I think we're a game.
I mean, feels weird to say game and half, but I feel like we're a game and a half off of me saying, hey, man, the Bears may actually be turning this ship around. Because, I mean, don't get me wrong, I know it's against the Broncos and I know it's against the Commanders, but.
[00:28:05] Speaker B: They look like they're a guy.
[00:28:06] Speaker A: They bald.
[00:28:06] Speaker B: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
[00:28:07] Speaker C: Yeah, they look good. Their first win in a year.
[00:28:11] Speaker A: Yeah.
They also lost the Broncos. I shouldn't be talking about the Broncos game that much because they did lose that game.
[00:28:18] Speaker C: They blew a 21 or 28 point lead.
[00:28:20] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:28:21] Speaker B: I mean, they're still a Bears, but we like the flashes.
[00:28:24] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. We've seen flashes. But that's about really all you can say about this team right now, I think.
[00:28:29] Speaker B: No, but I mean, honestly, at the end of the day, they're still the Bears and it's still probably going to get the Bears. Yeah.
[00:28:37] Speaker D: Well, speaking of next year's draft, I've seen a lot of things. They will likely end up with two top three picks, two top four picks, maybe even the top two picks. And if they can get Marvin Harrison Jr. And Caleb Williams, that's like getting Wenben Yama and Scoot Henderson in the same two picks back to back.
[00:28:59] Speaker A: That's fair.
I do believe they're going to end up with a first pick. Shout out the Carolina Panthers.
[00:29:03] Speaker B: Yeah.
[00:29:03] Speaker C: The only thing that kind of sucks is the worst team in the league is not going to have a first round pick. This don't it's kind of crazy actually.
[00:29:10] Speaker B: Oh, we started the show off with a shot and now we're in.
[00:29:13] Speaker C: And like you draft Bryce Young who was number one overall pick and you have CJ. Stroud outperforming him. You have anthony Richardson probably outperforming him. Will Levis might be looking better too.
[00:29:22] Speaker A: It's not Bryce's fault.
[00:29:24] Speaker B: I think we'll end it right. That's it.
[00:29:26] Speaker A: That's all I have to say on this matter.
[00:29:28] Speaker B: You have been listening to the student section, NFL. Thank you for joining us tonight. You're listening to WVUA 90.7 the cast.
