Episode Transcript
[00:00:00] Speaker A: WVUA FM, Tuscaloosa.
Hey, everybody, thank you so much for listening to 90.7 the capstone. We are now starting our student section episode. This today specifically is college football. My name is Tanner Thompson, along with Elliot Miller and Graham Baco. Fellas, before we get into what we're going to talk about today, how are we doing?
[00:00:31] Speaker B: Doing pretty good, man. How are you guys?
[00:00:33] Speaker C: Oh, you're doing good?
[00:00:34] Speaker B: Yeah, pretty good.
[00:00:35] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:00:35] Speaker C: Oh, I thought it would be a little different.
I was looking at the Pistons roster and I'm like, man, are they going to have a tryout?
[00:00:43] Speaker A: Can I join?
[00:00:43] Speaker B: Tryout. I've given up on the Pistons.
[00:00:47] Speaker C: You sacrifice the Lions for the Pistons.
[00:00:50] Speaker A: I need to open.
[00:00:50] Speaker C: Tryout. The Pistons for the Lions.
[00:00:52] Speaker B: I should say I'm just trying to hope Red Wings hockey can get.
[00:00:57] Speaker C: Stop it. Stop it. Penguins are back.
[00:01:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:01:00] Speaker C: Okay, they're back. The Pirates are back. The Steelers are back.
[00:01:04] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:01:04] Speaker A: The Pistons are going to get the Vince Papali of.
[00:01:06] Speaker C: And you know who's even more back, better than ever? The thunder.
[00:01:10] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:01:10] Speaker A: The Oklahoma.
[00:01:12] Speaker C: We are so back. Okay, you know what, Clippers, watch out Gordon Hayward.
He's about to become your number one enemy.
[00:01:19] Speaker B: How about top of the western Conference NBA right now?
[00:01:22] Speaker A: Holy cow.
[00:01:23] Speaker C: Yeah, they're tied. Actually, top four. Pretty crazy.
[00:01:28] Speaker A: All right. That's how we're all doing today.
[00:01:30] Speaker C: Oh, I'm doing great.
[00:01:32] Speaker B: How are you doing?
[00:01:34] Speaker C: How am I doing?
[00:01:35] Speaker B: You're doing great.
[00:01:35] Speaker A: He only answered like that because his life revolves around the city of Pittsburgh.
[00:01:40] Speaker C: And the Oklahoma City thunder.
[00:01:41] Speaker B: Yeah, that's fair.
[00:01:43] Speaker A: And I get it.
[00:01:44] Speaker C: You get it. I'm glad you get it.
[00:01:46] Speaker A: I get it. Absolutely. But yeah, for this episode, we're first going to get into what we think that teams next level are looking for when it comes to this next draft. I think it's probably one of the better first steps to take in this few months long draft process. We'll have plenty of stuff to talk about, but for now, I think teams basic needs is the main place we can start.
Elliot, actually, tell you what, let's start off with just for the sake of. I also think it'll be an interesting division to talk about. We can start with the AFC north. And just to get it out of the way, we're going to let Elliot.
[00:02:21] Speaker C: I just hope y'all know I'm going to bring it up again at some point down the line. So this is not getting it out of the way. You're just priming me.
[00:02:28] Speaker A: Priming you? All right, fine.
[00:02:30] Speaker C: So what team am I supposed to start with guess.
[00:02:34] Speaker A: Just do whatever you want.
[00:02:35] Speaker C: The Browns.
[00:02:36] Speaker A: I was going to let you. Browns.
[00:02:38] Speaker C: Okay. Now I'll start with the Steelers. I think at the very, very tip top of the list. I think it goes without saying they do need another cornerback pair with Joey Porter Jr. They also might need an inside linebacker. I don't know what it is. There's something about inside linebackers in Pittsburgh that go together like oil and water.
[00:02:59] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:02:59] Speaker C: They just get hurt all the time. I don't know why that is.
And they also need a center, right? So I'd say those are probably the top three needs. Will they draft all three of those in the first three rounds? No.
[00:03:14] Speaker A: Right.
I don't know where Cedric Van Prin, the Georgia center, in my fundamental view of the draft space right now, I feel like is one of the better centers in this draft. Do you think he'll be in a spot that the Pittsburgh Steelers could walk away with him, or would you rather prioritize?
[00:03:36] Speaker C: I think it's going to solely depend on what Arthur Smith wants out of a center because there's like three names being floated around and it's all in that first round to second round range. And so that's going to be Cedar Van Pran, like you said, jackson powers Johnson from Oregon and then Zach Frazier from West Virginia. So those are the three names being floated around the Steelers circles currently.
[00:03:59] Speaker A: Absolutely.
Okay.
[00:04:00] Speaker B: How would you feel about if the Steelers got another skill player for Kenny?
[00:04:06] Speaker C: For Kenny, too?
[00:04:07] Speaker B: Well, also to pair up with George Pickens like another deep threat or just another threat on the.
[00:04:12] Speaker C: I mean, any threat that runs forward is good for me.
[00:04:15] Speaker A: I don't know if you would find this interesting, just because I think it's gonna be a pretty polarizing move. I saw a mock draft the other day that included the Steelers trading up in the draft. I cannot remember how far I believe it was to the seven or eight spot, but in this specific mock draft, and obviously you never know what can happen in NFL draft. It's truly nobody will. I don't think anyone's ever gotten a first round right, and I don't think they ever will. But I saw somebody, and again, in mind, I kind of respect. But the Steelers traded up to the seven or eight spot, something like that, and took Jaden Daniels, who you think is the best quarterback in this class, which I still disagree with. But I'm going to let you have this take for this.
[00:04:53] Speaker C: I just want to point out that the late Adrian Wesley, in a text conversation that we have, he agreed with me that Jayden Daniels is the best in the class. Okay.
[00:05:02] Speaker A: Late as in not being on.
[00:05:05] Speaker B: He has graduated college.
[00:05:07] Speaker C: Late as in Nick Saban is no.
[00:05:09] Speaker A: Longer with us type thing. First of all, Adrian Wesley is a sec homer more so than anybody, probably more so than any college football fan I know. Objectively that's fair.
[00:05:25] Speaker C: No, I mean, the only quarterback that I am okay with them doing that is Jayden Daniels.
[00:05:32] Speaker A: Wow. So even if they.
[00:05:35] Speaker C: There is absolutely zero shot that they get Caleb Williams.
[00:05:37] Speaker A: Or I'm saying. So you're still using the context of the draft because they obviously won't trade up to the one two.
[00:05:45] Speaker C: So obviously the bona fide top two quarterbacks that everyone agrees they are not going to be available. Yeah, I'm not even considering that. So as long as it is not Bo Nicks or Michael Pennix.
[00:05:57] Speaker A: Yeah, we're good.
[00:06:00] Speaker C: We're good. I don't think they're going to do that.
A little too rich for them.
[00:06:05] Speaker A: I think also like it hypothetically, I'm assuming. I don't know what that.
[00:06:08] Speaker C: Hypothetically, what are you giving up to get all the way up there, right?
[00:06:11] Speaker A: I should have wrote it down, man.
[00:06:13] Speaker C: Well, that's the thing. But you know what, it doesn't matter because they're not going to need a quarterback.
[00:06:19] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:06:20] Speaker C: If Kenny's not the guy, that's fine, because they're going to have a three headed monster at running back with Najee Harris, Jalen Warren and the corpse of Le'Veon Bell. Okay, so it doesn't matter.
[00:06:33] Speaker A: The corpse of Le'Veon.
[00:06:34] Speaker C: So let's move on to a new team.
[00:06:36] Speaker A: All right. Since we're in the AFC north, is there one you want to move on to?
[00:06:39] Speaker C: Let's go.
You know what? Let's head west.
[00:06:43] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:06:44] Speaker C: I'm going to take you to Cincinnati.
[00:06:47] Speaker A: Okay. That could have been Cleveland or Cincinnati.
[00:06:49] Speaker C: I know. That's why I left it open to interpretation.
[00:06:52] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:06:52] Speaker C: With the Bengals.
[00:06:53] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:06:53] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:06:55] Speaker C: So I think the widespread thought is that Higgins is gone, right?
[00:06:59] Speaker A: Is that Higgins gone or. There's a possibility they franchise tag Higgins.
[00:07:04] Speaker C: But regardless, there is no way that brother is going to want to play on the franchise tag.
[00:07:07] Speaker A: No shot. But that's. I mean, players can get.
[00:07:09] Speaker C: He'll get franchise tag, but he'll be like, I just won't play.
[00:07:12] Speaker A: Yeah, that is true. That's starting to become overall just done in the league.
[00:07:17] Speaker C: But yeah, I think that the Bengals need a wide receiver. I think that that's pretty much what they need.
They might need a lineman.
[00:07:30] Speaker A: I don't mean, I think depending on where you are and who's available, I think that's the line.
[00:07:36] Speaker C: It's always in the realm of possibilities.
[00:07:38] Speaker A: Especially in the first round. You're always looking for tackles. There's pretty much across the board, all of these teams, especially if someone becomes available down the line.
[00:07:46] Speaker C: Right?
Yeah. I don't know if you have any other positions that you think that the Bengals are in dire need of. If I had to pick one, it's probably wide receiver.
[00:07:55] Speaker A: Yeah. Okay. They're picking at any more teen. They're picking at 18. And so in terms of needing receiver this year, I don't think it's a bad spot to pick.
[00:08:05] Speaker C: No.
[00:08:05] Speaker A: You could walk away with a very, like Odunze probably. I think Odunze could be there. You have either of the Texas guys there at 18 for sure.
They may be a little rich for that 18.
[00:08:18] Speaker C: I think worthy is fine in the first round. I think worthy anywhere that's not in the top ten is fine.
[00:08:24] Speaker A: Yeah, that's fair.
[00:08:25] Speaker C: I can agree with that.
Do they need a worthy esque receiver? No, I don't think so. They already have Jamar.
[00:08:33] Speaker A: They have almost the perfect receiver set up in terms of skill set.
[00:08:37] Speaker C: Right. So they need someone who's more like t. Higgins, which is not savior, and.
[00:08:42] Speaker A: It is Romo dunze.
[00:08:45] Speaker C: That's why I say Romo dunze.
[00:08:46] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:08:47] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:08:48] Speaker A: Wow. That would be a really team to watch.
[00:08:51] Speaker C: Unfortunately, they're going to be locked down by Joey Porter Jr. By.
[00:08:57] Speaker A: I pretty much agree. Again, the only spot I would lean after that is like a tagline.
And again, you don't know who's going to be available there.
[00:09:07] Speaker B: People could fall.
[00:09:09] Speaker A: Do you know what I mean?
[00:09:10] Speaker C: People could rise.
[00:09:11] Speaker A: People could also rise. Fair point. But I like a real no Dunsay pick there. Or even, I mean, tell you what, talk about a dark placement, a dark horse, somebody who know maybe if they test well because obviously has all the physical traits. Somebody who tests well and is also a ball winner and a freak athlete. Is Keon Coleman out of FSU?
Depending on how early these receivers go? Because it just depends on how the president is set in the draft.
[00:09:39] Speaker C: I'll agree there.
[00:09:40] Speaker A: Then 18 could be a spot where he goes. And again, I think his testing will be huge for his draft profile for sure, but we'll see. And I also think that Keon Coleman was a little bit left out to dry with.
Yeah.
[00:09:56] Speaker C: Okay. Let's stay in the lovely state of Ohio for a second.
[00:09:59] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:09:59] Speaker C: The lovely state of Ohio, the Cleveland Browns.
[00:10:02] Speaker A: Right.
[00:10:03] Speaker C: Where do I begin?
Where do I begin with these guys? Because if I'm being honest, okay, what they actually really need is a quarterback.
[00:10:15] Speaker A: As weird as it is to say.
[00:10:17] Speaker C: They, unfortunately, you're paying like 250,000,000 for a guy who, in my opinion, is a bona fide scrub.
[00:10:27] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:10:27] Speaker C: Not only is he a bad person, he's a bad football player, too.
[00:10:31] Speaker A: Went into that. I can't remember specifically what picks were in that trade, but that Houston and Cleveland trade may go down. It's one of the worst trades ever made.
[00:10:40] Speaker C: It's lopsided.
I mean, it is up there with the Bears giving up pick number 32 for Chase Claypool, which that brother might be playing in the UFL.
[00:10:50] Speaker A: He really might. He could dominate the UFL. So that'd be kind of.
[00:10:53] Speaker C: I don't even think he can dominate the UFL.
[00:10:57] Speaker A: Fair enough.
[00:10:58] Speaker C: I think when the NFL finally gets their international teams, like in London and Brazil and all that stuff, or in be, I think he'll be a great wide receiver. Six.
[00:11:09] Speaker A: The expansion teams, man. Oh, my goodness, those european expansion teams are going to have a hard time early on.
[00:11:14] Speaker C: Oh, they really are.
[00:11:15] Speaker A: That travel, man.
[00:11:17] Speaker C: The jet lag is going to be crazy.
Not like it matters for Claypool because he takes time after every first down, but yeah. No, I mean, the Browns biggest issue is that they didn't have a quarterback. And quite honestly, they probably could have made a deep run if they weren't using the corpse of Joe Flacco to try to will them to the point. Nothing against what Flacco did. Right.
[00:11:38] Speaker A: But okay, it's not a longevity play. It's something catch lightning in a bottle.
[00:11:44] Speaker C: It's like a one year Ryan Fitzpatrick masterclass. I bet you next year.
[00:11:47] Speaker A: Talk about those Ryan Fitzpatrick masterclasses. Used to be special to watch, man. Special.
But that being said, I pretty much agree. Because offensive line, I mean, they have a strong offensive line.
[00:11:59] Speaker C: I mean, as long as they don't get hurt.
[00:12:00] Speaker A: Do what?
[00:12:01] Speaker C: As long as they don't get hurt.
[00:12:02] Speaker A: They have a strong offensive line. They're running back rooms.
[00:12:04] Speaker C: Obviously, their defense was good.
[00:12:05] Speaker A: Also, assuming they don't get hurt, and they are great defense this year, I mean, in terms of the regular season, one of the best defenses, if not the best defense in the NFL. So, I mean, again, you need somebody. You need that last piece. And if Deshaun Watson is not the guy, it's going to be really interesting to see in the next few years how that dialogue goes.
[00:12:23] Speaker C: That contract has already aged poorly.
It aged poorly from the minute that the ink hit the paper.
[00:12:30] Speaker A: Where does it get to a point, though, where they're ready to take a quarterback in the first round, though?
[00:12:34] Speaker C: If I'm the Browns, I'm doing it right now.
[00:12:39] Speaker B: They don't have a first rounder this year.
[00:12:40] Speaker A: We got to remember that.
[00:12:41] Speaker C: That's right, they don't.
[00:12:42] Speaker A: But what if they went like pennics or something in the second round?
That'd be kind of crazy.
I forget you're not a Pennix fan.
[00:12:54] Speaker C: It's not even that. But.
[00:12:59] Speaker A: Why do you want me to go in depth on this justification? How many they should pick a quarterback. Who would you rather them take?
[00:13:06] Speaker C: Well, I mean. Well, I'm trying to think of where they would be picking if they had a first round pick.
[00:13:11] Speaker A: I'm going based off the fact that they'll probably have a second round pick.
[00:13:14] Speaker B: Oh, because the Eagles have.
[00:13:15] Speaker A: I'm going based off this.
[00:13:19] Speaker C: Personally, I don't see Michael Pennix or Bo Nicks as anything special.
[00:13:25] Speaker A: I would agree about Bo Nicks. Yeah. Michael Pennix stands a chance. I think where he goes will be very important. Obviously, for every pick, the dude has.
[00:13:34] Speaker C: A nice deep ball.
[00:13:35] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:13:36] Speaker C: But I got to be honest with you. In that playoff game, or both of them, really, the dude could not hit the broadside of a was.
[00:13:46] Speaker A: I see what you're saying.
I thought that Michigan defense played lights out all game for one. I also think that the offense kind of underperformed in moments. Obviously, Michael Penix had his role and he also underperformed. That's very justified.
But Michael Penix has proved a lot this year that he's a extremely accurate passer and is capable of pushing the ball down the tape over the course of the year, I think you can justify.
[00:14:16] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:14:17] Speaker C: Amortized over the course of the year. Sure.
[00:14:19] Speaker A: Yes. And I don't think that's a ridiculous thing to evaluate going over the course of a football season instead of the national championship.
[00:14:27] Speaker C: But in fairness, I also judge Caleb Williams when he plays the high end talent. In my opinion, I thought Caleb Williams took a major dip downwards when he played higher end talent. So, like, take the Notre Dame game. I mean, deer in the headlights.
[00:14:40] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:14:41] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:41] Speaker C: Michael Pennix, I didn't really think he was that outstanding in the Texas game.
[00:14:45] Speaker A: Right.
[00:14:45] Speaker C: I also thought he was just abysmal in the national championship. I just feel like when the stage is set there, the lights just get a little bit too bright.
[00:14:53] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:14:53] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:14:54] Speaker C: And I don't know.
Sure do I think he's better than Deshaun Watson? Yeah, he probably. Unfortunately, the thing is, if I'm the Browns, what need do I really have? Let's be honest here. What need do I have? You had the number one defense. You're pretty much set at that position, both from a depth perspective and a starter position everywhere. On offense, you have maybe a wide.
[00:15:19] Speaker A: Receiver.
[00:15:22] Speaker C: Maybe I don't like. In my opinion, they really need. If they didn't have that massive contract and if they had picks, I would push the chips in on trying to get an actual quarterback. Ideally, if you're the Browns, you get rid of Watson and you could use all that money. You could sign someone, maybe like Kirk Cousins, Kurt Cousins on that team. They probably go deep in the playoffs, maybe make a Super bowl run.
[00:15:42] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:15:43] Speaker C: So I think they need a quarterback. If I was the Browns and I had a first round pick, I would try to take a flyer on one of the quarterbacks right now. Because at this moment, Deshaun Watson is not winning you games. They're winning in spite of him.
[00:15:52] Speaker A: They probably will.
I honestly would be surprised if they did go quarterback in the second round. I'm guessing again, because of what we've said about their overall balance as a team, I would probably think that they may be thinking, best player available, maybe just the guy whose tape they like the best and sitting at the top of the board and he's still there. Like, all right, let's just do it. You know what I mean?
[00:16:11] Speaker C: Or you trade back and gain more assets because you traded all your picks for a dude who likes to sit on the injury report.
[00:16:19] Speaker A: True. Very true.
[00:16:21] Speaker B: Not to mention, also Deshaun Watson is very injury prone as well.
[00:16:25] Speaker C: That's what I'm saying. He sits on the injury report all the time. It's like his favorite place to live. Anyway, before we.
[00:16:31] Speaker A: Let's keep moving.
[00:16:32] Speaker C: Let's keep moving. So let's go back east.
[00:16:33] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:16:34] Speaker C: To our brothers in Baltimore. Our brothers in Baltimore, another good team.
[00:16:40] Speaker B: Solid defense.
[00:16:45] Speaker C: Overrated at times. Actually. Baltimore, Baltimore, overrated at times.
[00:16:49] Speaker A: Come on, man.
[00:16:50] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:16:51] Speaker A: Are you serious? You're just being a Steelers fan.
[00:16:53] Speaker C: I'm not being a Steelers fan. I just got done complimenting the Browns defense. I think the Browns defense is better.
[00:16:59] Speaker A: It is objectively true that Pittsburgh and Baltimore have probably the most significant rivalry.
[00:17:05] Speaker C: In the can just fight.
[00:17:07] Speaker A: And also, the Ravens just went to the AFC championship with one of the best offenses and defenses in the league.
[00:17:12] Speaker D: Yeah.
[00:17:13] Speaker C: And you know what? They probably should have won the game that they did.
[00:17:16] Speaker A: They lost to somebody who will likely be the greatest quarterback of all time when he retires and somebody who will likely be the greatest tight end of all time when he tires. One of the best offensive minds of all time.
[00:17:25] Speaker C: And it's funny. The Ravens win that game if they don't shoot themselves in the foot on multiple occasions.
Can't. They can't get over their own 2ft.
[00:17:33] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:17:34] Speaker C: And I told you from the start that the Ravens are going to find some way to blow it. That's not me being a Steelers fan. Hating on the Ravens. I have just seen the Ravens play, right? It tends to happen a lot.
[00:17:43] Speaker A: But the Ravens this year were the best team in the AFC over the course of the.
[00:17:51] Speaker C: I think that the Browns defense is very good. It's overrated in its red zone capabilities. It's bad in the red zone.
[00:17:57] Speaker A: What makes the Ravens defense?
[00:17:59] Speaker C: The Ravens corners are actually not the greatest.
Yeah, like Marlon Humphrey gets cooked a lot.
[00:18:09] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:18:09] Speaker C: I think a lot of that gets overshadowed by the fact that Kyle Hamilton played really, really well and then whenever he was out. Gino Stone had a crazy year with a ton of interceptions. I think he was like in the top part of the league there. He might have been second behind Duran, bland, maybe. But other than those two, like their safeties, their cornerbacks were.
[00:18:30] Speaker A: I don't know what the points per game numbers are, but I'm pretty sure this team let up like 17 points per game.
[00:18:35] Speaker B: Yeah, I'm looking at they only allowed 20 or more five times out of 19 games, including the playoffs.
[00:18:40] Speaker A: That's unreal. That is an elite defense.
[00:18:42] Speaker C: Sure.
[00:18:43] Speaker A: It has to be considered that it's a good defense.
[00:18:45] Speaker B: It's a great defense.
[00:18:46] Speaker A: It's a great defense. I think it's a really good.
[00:18:48] Speaker C: I mean, I'm not saying that it's a bad defense. I just think it's a little bit overrated. If I'm the Ravens, I'm probably taking a defensive player. It's probably going to be a corner, too.
[00:18:56] Speaker A: Yeah. I would go with a wide out or wide out corner. Excuse me, if I were the Ravens.
[00:19:01] Speaker C: Yeah.
[00:19:01] Speaker A: Again, the needs aren't significant.
[00:19:03] Speaker C: Their deficiency is in the secondary. I think that their run defense is absolutely spectacular. It's fine. I just think monster run defense, their passing defense is all right.
[00:19:15] Speaker A: I'd have to look at some numbers. I don't know it off top of.
[00:19:17] Speaker C: My head, but just watching the games that I watched.
[00:19:20] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:19:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:19:21] Speaker C: With the Ravens, I've seen a lot of AFC north games. They need a have to.
[00:19:27] Speaker A: I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on the extent of which they are overrated, just because that's a pretty, neither here nor there ambiguous take. But for now we are going to go to break. We'll be back for our last team in the AFC. Wait, did we cover?
We got through all four. Then we will keep moving through the AFC. But for now we are going to go for a little break.
Hey, everybody. Welcome back. We're going to continue our talk about what the NFL teams need from this draft coming up in about three months. We just finished up with the AFC north and now I think we should stay within the AFC, keep it a linear path, and then we can move on to the NFC. Once we are done, let's speed through these other teams.
[00:20:24] Speaker C: It's not like they need anything anyway.
Let's be honest here. The AFC north and the Chiefs run the AFC.
The AFC north and the Chiefs run.
[00:20:35] Speaker A: The AFC as of right now. Kind of how a lot of these.
[00:20:41] Speaker C: Teams, Texans are not there yet.
[00:20:42] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:20:43] Speaker A: They're very close.
[00:20:44] Speaker C: They're very close.
[00:20:45] Speaker B: Bills always choke.
[00:20:47] Speaker C: I'm not worried about the bill.
[00:20:48] Speaker B: Dolphins.
[00:20:49] Speaker C: I'm not even worried about Dolphins.
[00:20:50] Speaker B: Not there yet.
[00:20:51] Speaker C: Do the Steelers always lose to them? Yeah, they do.
[00:20:53] Speaker A: They sure do. Every time.
[00:20:54] Speaker C: They sure do. But you know what? I don't feel bad because I know they're going to lose. Okay.
[00:21:00] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:21:01] Speaker B: No, you're completely are.
[00:21:03] Speaker C: What AFC division would you gentlemen like.
[00:21:05] Speaker A: To talk about next? Let's go with the AFC east.
[00:21:08] Speaker C: Okay. What do the bills need?
[00:21:11] Speaker A: What do the bills need?
I honestly think the bills need a receiver.
[00:21:17] Speaker C: They do. I think they 100% need a receiver.
Hot.
[00:21:20] Speaker A: Take the dialogue around. Sorry, I'll let you finish this.
[00:21:22] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I mean, I'll let you have your dialogue. I'm just going to say hot take. I think Stefan Diggs should be traded.
[00:21:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I think kind of going off that, I think the dialogue around bill's receivers of the past three years or so has been really interesting because I think most people view Stefan Diggs as a pretty good wide out, pretty good xy receiver.
But where it gets interesting is a lot of people will say that the bills don't have very good weapons and that it is predominantly Josh Allen, which is something I actually tend to agree with because, excuse me, the Gabe Davis.
[00:21:52] Speaker C: He just has a legacy game every year.
[00:21:54] Speaker A: Exactly. And it makes that conversation so much harder. But I think in reality it's really just Stefan Diggs out there who can consistently win. And even that starting to decline, maybe.
[00:22:05] Speaker C: That lost its flavor, has a tendency.
[00:22:09] Speaker A: To not be there in the big games.
[00:22:12] Speaker C: He's like a stick of fruity Wrigley's gum or whatever. It loses its flavor after a couple of games, and it's just not there by the time you actually need it.
[00:22:22] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:22:24] Speaker C: That's the flavor.
[00:22:26] Speaker A: I have no idea what you're talking about before that. All right, I understand that.
[00:22:30] Speaker C: Goaded flavor, by the way.
[00:22:31] Speaker A: Goaded flavor.
But yeah, I think I would say receiver. And based on where they are, again, still a good wide receiver draft, honestly.
[00:22:40] Speaker C: I would trade digs. You could probably fetch a first to second round pick for him.
[00:22:45] Speaker A: Oh, for sure.
With how older receivers go in the market nowadays, I don't think you're getting a first round pick.
Remember the dhop trade, man?
Nothing came out of that. There was maybe like a talking about.
[00:22:59] Speaker C: The Bill O'Brien trade.
[00:23:02] Speaker A: There's been multiple dhop trades since then.
[00:23:04] Speaker C: I thought you're talking about that.
[00:23:06] Speaker A: Cards to the titans.
[00:23:07] Speaker C: Was that one?
[00:23:08] Speaker A: It was like two thirds or something.
Everyone knows Bill O'Brien can't manage talent.
[00:23:14] Speaker C: We've talked about this lengthy at length on this show. Okay, but no, I mean, I think. But they're two very different styles of receiver.
[00:23:22] Speaker A: Absolutely.
[00:23:23] Speaker C: Dhop fits a very specific mold of, like, a contested catch specialist, in my opinion.
[00:23:30] Speaker A: I don't want to put dhop in too much of a box because that guy is a dominant.
[00:23:35] Speaker C: I think he's dominant in one of.
[00:23:36] Speaker B: The best catch area, all the 50 50 balls.
[00:23:39] Speaker C: But the dude is slow, but he's.
[00:23:41] Speaker A: A very skilled and very nuanced receiver. That makes him available the entire game. Like, it's not just the. Obviously, it's great hands.
[00:23:48] Speaker C: Almost never drops a second round pick, though. I think Stefan Diggs can garner more.
[00:23:52] Speaker A: Maybe you can do a second.
[00:23:54] Speaker B: You could still find. Probably, I assume. Yeah, he can.
[00:23:56] Speaker C: I'm sure you could find some team out there like the Chicago Bears who would overpay for him.
[00:24:02] Speaker A: You are kind of playing a dangerous game with because again, we're saying the need right now for the Bills is weapons and we're talking, what is Stefan about going into this draft, getting rid of their best offensive skill player?
[00:24:16] Speaker C: Is he really their best offensive skill? Mean, at this point, do we think that.
[00:24:20] Speaker A: Yes. Well, what about who do you think is better?
[00:24:22] Speaker C: I think James cook at this point has exceeded him as a skill position player from a production and from how he helped the team standpoint. I'm telling you that brother Stefan Diggs was out there doing cardio, like the last six weeks.
He was just finishing up on his apple Watch. He was trying to get that little ring.
[00:24:37] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:24:38] Speaker B: I was going to say also Kincaid, we saw the tie down.
[00:24:42] Speaker A: Kincaid is a good player.
[00:24:43] Speaker C: I think that does change the Kincaid Knox combination. Well, I know specifically my Steelers can't cover a tight end to save their life, even if it depended on it. But you just run the two tight end set out there and they're just ripping people up down the middle running.
[00:24:57] Speaker A: Twelve personnel with two pretty solid tight ends, especially one who's very successful in the passing game. It's been proven to work really well.
[00:25:05] Speaker C: Right, exactly. And I think James Cook really elevated an element of passing out of the backfield as well as running the ball. Right. So Josh Allen didn't always have to be out there, like, putting his shoulder down. Right, right. I don't know. I think Sifon Diggs really had little to no value in the last half of the season.
[00:25:26] Speaker A: Yeah, I can't remember any huge games that he had, especially when in the games that Matt actually, well, I mean, the Bills had that run where they were essentially playing a playoff game for what, six straight weeks or something like that.
[00:25:36] Speaker C: He didn't really do mean, I'll be honest with, like, even against the Steelers. Right.
[00:25:44] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:25:44] Speaker C: And keep in mind, they only got really one good cornerback. The rest of them, they're either old or they're slow or they're a combination of the. Were they, who were they getting scorched by Josh Allen with his legs.
[00:25:55] Speaker A: Right.
[00:25:56] Speaker B: That's Kincaid.
[00:25:56] Speaker C: Kincaid.
[00:25:58] Speaker A: It's always Josh Allen. Josh Allen will forever be part of the scorching for that Bills team, no matter what.
[00:26:02] Speaker C: But it's Josh Allen. Kincaid knocked and a little bit of James Cook.
[00:26:06] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:26:06] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:26:06] Speaker C: Stefan Diggs caught like two balls for like 20 some yards. He didn't do anything.
[00:26:11] Speaker A: The team identity did change when that playoff run happened because they stopped throwing on the ball. Honestly, over the past few years, the problem with this Bills team has been a consistent run game.
James Cook does deserve credit. He is a really good player and he's been a big part of this team being successful in the run game. And again, maybe that helped him with that last run, because then it wasn't all Josh Allen. It didn't have to be him making a play every second.
But, yeah, that's definitely an interesting move.
To be honest, when we've talked about Diggs potentially going to the Panthers before as a trade, that's not even Diggs.
[00:26:50] Speaker C: And stealing on the same field.
[00:26:52] Speaker A: My point is, I'm not interested in that.
[00:26:53] Speaker C: I'm getting flashbacks to Minnesota.
[00:26:56] Speaker A: My point is I'm not interested in that. I've heard that talk.
[00:26:59] Speaker C: I wouldn't be interested in that either.
[00:27:00] Speaker A: Yeah, exactly. On paper. Because this is kind of really the.
[00:27:04] Speaker C: Ship them off to Arizona.
[00:27:05] Speaker A: I would say Arizona's got what the. They've got four this year. Yeah, something like that. Fourth pick.
[00:27:14] Speaker C: They'll blow it some way.
[00:27:16] Speaker A: Some way. But let's move off the bills. Yeah, we've been on the bills for a minute.
[00:27:21] Speaker C: Let's go to the jets.
I'm feeling in a Rex Ryan mood today.
[00:27:25] Speaker A: A Rex Ryan mood today.
[00:27:27] Speaker D: Okay. Yeah.
[00:27:27] Speaker C: Which means I'm probably going to hop to the Cowboys next. I'm just kidding.
[00:27:32] Speaker A: I think that they're what, a ten?
[00:27:35] Speaker C: They need a receiver?
[00:27:35] Speaker A: I believe they're a ten. Yeah. They need receiver or they need a.
[00:27:38] Speaker C: Pass catcher in a tight end.
[00:27:42] Speaker A: I think they're not a fan of Tyler Conklin, do I?
[00:27:45] Speaker C: You're not a Tyler Conklin, believe me.
[00:27:46] Speaker A: Are you?
[00:27:48] Speaker C: What about Jeremy Ruckert? Does he still play for them?
[00:27:51] Speaker A: I am honestly not sure.
[00:27:55] Speaker C: What's that grid game?
[00:27:56] Speaker A: Immaculate grid.
[00:27:57] Speaker C: Immaculate grid. Hey, Jeremy Rucker. That's an elite pool right there. That's an elite pool.
[00:28:01] Speaker A: That is a great pool. But so is Josh Johnson, by the way. That guy's played everywhere. But I think Brock Bowers could be available at ten and I think that would be a really good move for that team.
[00:28:12] Speaker C: Arod would be happy.
[00:28:13] Speaker A: Absolutely. And I think that seems to be the only priority in eventually, when we.
[00:28:19] Speaker C: Get into next year, I'm going to start saying, you guys need a quarterback.
[00:28:22] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:28:22] Speaker A: Yeah.
This is a different mock draft. I don't mean to reference it, but somebody mentioned them taking Jade Daniels at ten, which would be hilarious.
Hilarious if they did that. Because Jaden Daniels as a player is someone who I believe would benefit from sitting for maybe one year under Rogers. I think because he has all the tools you would want. He's got a great ball.
[00:28:47] Speaker C: Develop a little bit.
[00:28:48] Speaker A: He does have to develop a little bit.
[00:28:49] Speaker C: I'm a fan of the development of let him play.
[00:28:53] Speaker A: That's true. The game has changed in that. Right. And they've had the players, in my opinion, offenses that favor them.
[00:29:01] Speaker C: The only quarterback I think of in recent history that benefited from sitting was Jordan love. Most of the quarterbacks behind. Right, right. But I'm just saying most of the quarterbacks that they take them and then they sit them for a little bit and they're like, you know what, I'm just going to play you anyway.
You just hurt their development. Just play them from the start, man. There was no point in doing this whole I'm going to sit you for a little bit so you can learn. Just let them play because you're not going to get experience throwing against the backups.
[00:29:30] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:29:30] Speaker C: You got to be in game in those scenarios, actually performing.
[00:29:34] Speaker A: I agree. The best way to learn is 100% being on the field and it's kind of changed because again, NFL offenses aren't exactly what they used to be. They're now somewhat geared towards the toolsy quarterbacks that have insane athletic ability and throwing talent and you see that be successful. Like with Josh Allen in his first year, underwhelming really wasn't a very accurate passer and things like that. But they also did what they could to cater the offense towards him. That's what made Patrick Mahomes so successful out of the gate is because Andy Reid gave him an offense that he was used to and he could feel and it allowed him to use his best skills and that's what guys are doing nowadays. Anthony Richardson did it successfully this year with limited success injuries, but with the Colts and I think that's how that has changed. So I think there's a very high reality that Jane Daniels can start day one. I would be really interested to see where that would.
[00:30:29] Speaker C: But speaking of teams, you need quarterbacks.
Do you guys know who I'm going to say next?
[00:30:36] Speaker B: Patriots.
[00:30:37] Speaker C: Yeah, I personally, I think you go for either one of the two left.
[00:30:41] Speaker A: That's true.
[00:30:43] Speaker C: Patriots surefire. Well, you know what? Let's make it quick.
[00:30:45] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:30:46] Speaker C: Patriots. You guys need a quarterback. It's apparent.
[00:30:49] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:30:50] Speaker C: I never want to see Mac Jones or Bailey Zappy ever grace the field again, whether it's in the same game or anything. The only time that I want to see them is when I'm watching the Birmingham Stallions win the UFO.
[00:31:02] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:31:02] Speaker A: I think this is going off of no trade ups in the top three, but the Patriots are sitting at.
I think there's a pretty high chance that they could walk away with Drake may because I think that one of those top two will be a different position. That's not quarterback. I think Caleb Williams will go one, undoubtedly, and then whatever happens at two, and that would be Drake May is an incredibly talented player. You should be static to walk away.
[00:31:30] Speaker C: I think he's got to put a little bit together. I thought he took a dip this past year, but I think he took.
[00:31:34] Speaker A: A dip this past year because of a lot of UNC things. I think so too skinny guys weren't available.
[00:31:41] Speaker C: I agree. I mean, it's just my thing is like, oh, my God, he's really, really good. He threw that left handed pass against Pitt and I'm like, the dude was like awful that whole game. It's just like, Pitt is just so bad.
[00:31:55] Speaker A: You're going to make fun of me, but when you look at the tape with Drake May, the guy reads the field well. Yeah, no, he's six four. Incredible.
[00:32:02] Speaker C: I just thought he had a couple really bad games this past year.
[00:32:05] Speaker A: He might have. But again, I do believe that UNC didn't set him up nearly as well. No, they didn't nearly as well as last year.
There's a funny dialogue with quarterbacks coming out of UNC, the past two being Sam Howell and a big, I'm a big Drake may believer.
[00:32:23] Speaker C: I think both future UFL starters, by.
[00:32:25] Speaker A: The way, that's true. I'm excited to see what the UFL.
[00:32:28] Speaker C: Becomes, but that's hopefully Mitchell Trubisky does well for himself. He could be the first person to win an MVP.
The UFL MVP.
[00:32:37] Speaker A: All right, Ellie, you did say that the other team should be looking for quarterback. And I kind of want you to elaborate because this one could be considered a hot take.
[00:32:46] Speaker C: I don't even think this is a hot take. I know people down over here in this neck of the woods are going to tell me it's a hot take. Everyone loves Tua. You know what, Tua, you're a great dude, okay? This is nothing against the guy as a person or anything, right? I do not think that he is that good of a quarterback. I'm going to be honest. Everyone always tells me about these pedestrian quarterbacks in the league. They're like, oh, this dude doesn't move the needle for me. This guy doesn't move the needle for me. He's not very good. He's very average and everything in my eyes, Tua is a below average to average quarterback. I think average is being generous. This dude is known for accuracy.
[00:33:22] Speaker A: You said average is being. I would 100% call him average. Average, generous.
[00:33:26] Speaker C: I think average is generous. I think that everyone says that he's like super accurate because this and that. I watched this dude make the most boneheaded decisions. I watch him throw some of, for the most accurate guy, I have watched him throw some of the least accurate passes I have ever seen in my life.
[00:33:45] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:33:45] Speaker C: And for the life of me, for a team that has Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill and Devon Hhan and Raheem.
[00:33:52] Speaker A: Most incredible numbers over the course of.
[00:33:53] Speaker C: The looking, I'm looking here and who do they have on defense? They have Jalen Phillips, they have Christian Wilkins. They got Jalen Ramsey, who actually played pretty well. I thought he was going to be cooked.
[00:34:06] Speaker A: Yeah, the defense was not great.
[00:34:09] Speaker C: Defense wasn't great. But you know what? They were okay. It was passable. You can win with that defense. It wasn't like I'm thinking of some defenses were just so right that there was no hope for you.
Let's take the Broncos defense, right. The Chargers defense also wasn't very good either. Right. Those teams just didn't have a shot because they just gave up too many.
[00:34:36] Speaker A: Right.
[00:34:38] Speaker C: In my opinion, if the Dolphins had an elite quarterback or in my opinion an above average quarterback, I think that they're a lot better. He puts up great numbers. I'm going to be honest, he's a bit of a yak merchant, okay?
[00:34:56] Speaker A: He does his role in the offense.
[00:34:58] Speaker C: He does his role in the off. I get it. Every box score merchant is going to tell me, okay, they're like, oh, you're being the boxcore merchant? Or they're going to say, oh, but he had the deepest yards per pass or whatever, okay, because you got two guys who are the fastest dudes in the league. All he has to do is throw it. Not to the defender.
[00:35:14] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:35:16] Speaker C: If you have two guys that are that fast and that can blow a defense away like that, there is zero reason why you should not be breaking records. These guys are too talented. They are too fast. It's not like I'm working with, not like we're working with the Panthers wide receivers, okay, who look like they're running through molasses in the middle of winter.
[00:35:35] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:35:38] Speaker C: But how do you not win in some of these games?
[00:35:44] Speaker A: They went eleven and seven.
[00:35:45] Speaker B: Well, look at the, I mean, they didn't beat anyone.
[00:35:47] Speaker A: They did not beat great teams. No, they did not beat great teams.
[00:35:51] Speaker C: They just beat up on bad ones. The minute they played a good team, he turned into like Nathan Peterman.
[00:35:59] Speaker B: Will Dolphins be able to think, oh, we beat the Cowboys?
[00:36:01] Speaker A: Okay, so what I don't think the Cowboys are.
I think that teams, my argument for this and why a lot went wrong for the Dolphins and Tua going into this season is I'll do this real quick before we go to break. But that teams figured out how to beat the Dolphins, the good teams really did. And they figured out by playing physical and jamming up these receivers and disrupting timing, which is what this Miami offense was all about this season. It was precision and setting it up before the snap and know taking his right drop and putting the ball where it needed to be, the right moment. When you jam up that timing, it just completely screwed everything up. And I think that's why the Chiefs held him to seven points and that's why they couldn't beat the good teams. And again, part of that was bad play from Tua, but the offense wasn't succeeding on top of that.
[00:36:50] Speaker C: Yeah, well, the offense as a whole, but as everyone says, the offense runs through the quarterback. Right. He's the guy that touches the ball every single play. That's true.
I don't see it.
[00:37:01] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:37:01] Speaker A: I don't think there's any quarterback in the next.
[00:37:04] Speaker C: Somebody help me see.
[00:37:05] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:37:06] Speaker C: Like this Dude. I don't know.
[00:37:11] Speaker A: I guess we kind of disagree on that one, I guess.
Really just. We kind of agree, but to different extents, I guess.
[00:37:18] Speaker C: Right.
I think he's a little worse than you do.
[00:37:21] Speaker A: I don't think that Miami is thinking about taking a quarterback.
[00:37:23] Speaker C: Oh, they're not, but they should be.
[00:37:25] Speaker A: No, they're not, but they should be. With that, we've got to go to break for a few minutes, but we will return for yet another AFC division. I guess we'll figure that out during the breakfast, everybody, welcome back. We are finishing up the show with the AFC south. So far we've done the AFC north and the AFC east. Now we're going to the AFC south. And I think we should start with best team in the AFC south being the.
[00:38:12] Speaker C: Not the Jacksonville Jaguars.
[00:38:13] Speaker A: Yes. Surprisingly, based off of what we thought before this season, it is now the Houston Texans. What do you think they're looking for?
[00:38:20] Speaker C: O line.
[00:38:21] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:38:21] Speaker C: Protect CJ Stroud. Conversation over. That's it?
[00:38:25] Speaker A: Conversation over. That's it. Real quick on that mean, what else do they need?
[00:38:30] Speaker C: Their defense was great. Their offensive tools are really good. Maybe they could take a receiver to.
[00:38:35] Speaker A: Make them even better, but that's a pretty good receiving core, man. I know we didn't think it was going in, but it was really just because they were young. But it was, I think, objectively a reason.
[00:38:45] Speaker C: They just need to protect CJ strap.
[00:38:46] Speaker A: Yeah, I agree.
[00:38:47] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:38:47] Speaker B: Yeah, for sure.
[00:38:49] Speaker C: Let's hop over to the overrated team in the AFC south known as the Jacksonville Jaguars.
[00:38:54] Speaker A: Yep. What do you think they do?
[00:38:59] Speaker C: Receiver.
[00:39:01] Speaker A: I would agree. Calvin Deley was a little bit disappointing, man.
[00:39:03] Speaker C: Ridley was disappointed, and he's also probably gone, so is he free agency right now?
[00:39:08] Speaker A: Yes, he will be. I think so. Yeah, he will be. I think they should look receiver. I also think they should look for another offensive line.
[00:39:19] Speaker C: I think their defense. You could probably use someone on defense, too, maybe in the secondary. Yeah, I thought their secondary got scorched a little bit at times, but a little bit. Yeah.
[00:39:29] Speaker A: Honestly, we met. If they went interior o line, too, I think they could use a lot of help in the run game.
[00:39:33] Speaker C: They could.
[00:39:34] Speaker A: Especially going down the middle.
[00:39:37] Speaker B: This mock draft I'm looking at right now has them taken Latham.
[00:39:41] Speaker A: Nice. So roll tide.
All right.
[00:39:45] Speaker C: Wow. We're going really fast.
[00:39:46] Speaker A: We are going really fast. That's two. Titans.
[00:39:52] Speaker C: You know what they need? They need Mike frable.
[00:39:55] Speaker A: They need Mike frable.
[00:39:57] Speaker C: What happened? What happened there, guys?
Future Steelers assistant, by the way.
[00:40:02] Speaker A: Future Steelers assistant. I would be really happy for you if that was a thing.
[00:40:07] Speaker C: Little bit of a reunion, but yeah. Titans.
[00:40:09] Speaker A: I think you also got to say oline.
[00:40:11] Speaker C: Oline.
[00:40:14] Speaker A: Receiver. Receiver. Defensive back.
[00:40:16] Speaker C: Defensive back.
[00:40:18] Speaker A: Edge.
[00:40:18] Speaker C: Rush. Edge. Rusher.
[00:40:20] Speaker A: They need a line.
[00:40:21] Speaker C: Defensive lineman.
[00:40:23] Speaker A: Quarterback.
I wonder.
Look, man, they're not going to take quarterback. I think they like will Levis for now.
[00:40:30] Speaker B: Yeah, they're not taking quarterback.
[00:40:32] Speaker C: I like will Levis like I like mayo in my coffee and I don't.
[00:40:36] Speaker A: They also got Brian Callahan as their next head coach. The former Bengals offensive coordinator.
[00:40:41] Speaker C: Doesn't move me.
[00:40:42] Speaker A: I think he's a pretty good offensive coordinator.
[00:40:43] Speaker C: I think he's a good coordinator. It just doesn't move me.
[00:40:46] Speaker A: I'm saying if anything, it'll help Will Levis.
[00:40:48] Speaker C: Will Levis, sure. I just don't think will love us is very good.
[00:40:52] Speaker A: It's been my take for a long time, especially.
[00:40:55] Speaker C: We were on that same wavelength during.
[00:40:57] Speaker A: The, when Mel Kuiper put him as his best quarterback.
[00:41:01] Speaker B: I was never impressed with him.
[00:41:03] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:03] Speaker C: The final team.
[00:41:04] Speaker A: The final team.
What do you think the Colts need, man? What do you think they need?
[00:41:09] Speaker B: Defense, probably.
[00:41:11] Speaker A: Defense. Yeah, defense.
[00:41:12] Speaker C: It's probably a defensive back.
[00:41:14] Speaker A: Yeah.
[00:41:15] Speaker C: Oh, maybe a linebacker, actually. Interior line. Inside.
[00:41:18] Speaker A: I would be okay with off ball linebacker, for sure.
[00:41:21] Speaker C: Inside linebacker, definitely, for sure. But defense, we're going with defense somewhere.
[00:41:26] Speaker A: Defense. Got it. You can start with the middle linebacker, I guess, but yeah. All right. I guess since we rolled to the south, we can just hit the west on our way out. How about that?
[00:41:36] Speaker C: Head west.
[00:41:37] Speaker A: Let's start with the Raiders. I think it's kind of an interesting team to talk about again.
[00:41:43] Speaker C: If.
[00:41:46] Speaker A: It'S got to be priority one, I think it has to be.
[00:41:50] Speaker C: Probably also use a receiver to help Devante.
[00:41:54] Speaker A: Yeah.
Shout out to that crazy stretch. He had this secondary a secondary? Yeah, I think he used a secondary. I think it's probably. I mean, you can say that for a lot of teams, but yeah, again, another team with a lot of mean.
[00:42:16] Speaker C: Pierce made them play really well there. At the end of the season. They were competitive. At the end of the day, though, they're not that good of a team. They're just not.
[00:42:23] Speaker A: I agree. They did put up one of the worst beatings I've ever seen on a football field against the Chargers, who we will get to in here.
[00:42:31] Speaker C: We're also going to get to the Broncos, who suffered one of the worst beatings.
[00:42:34] Speaker A: That's true. It's true.
I think we should go to the Chargers next. I think it's fitting with the Harbaugh hire Herbert still being there. Receiving situation a little weird.
[00:42:45] Speaker C: Oh, wait, no, it's the quadruple h. Harbaugh hire Herbert here. Look at that.
[00:42:50] Speaker A: Whoa.
[00:42:50] Speaker B: How about that?
[00:42:51] Speaker A: That was pretty cool.
[00:42:52] Speaker B: Nice.
[00:42:53] Speaker A: I think they go receiver here.
[00:42:56] Speaker C: They got to get a receiver. How old is their receiving core? I mean, they got to be averaging like 34.
[00:43:00] Speaker A: They need somebody who can stretch the defense, man. Excuse me.
[00:43:04] Speaker C: Oh, it also is not on the injury report.
[00:43:07] Speaker A: Justin Herbert is too good at pushing the ball down the field for you to not have an elite deep threat on.
[00:43:14] Speaker C: And they have fantasy merchant Austin Eckler on their team. So, I mean, their run game is fine. And limited capacity. Yeah, they probably could use an interior alignment because their inside running capabilities are so bad.
[00:43:27] Speaker A: So bad. Shout out Isaiah. Likely, but that's not him. It's Isaiah.
Which part of the.
[00:43:35] Speaker C: Spiller.
[00:43:36] Speaker A: Isaiah Spiller. That's what it is. I could not. Jeez. Unfortunate miss right there.
[00:43:40] Speaker C: Darn. That's that Ravens tight end who they were calling best tight end still in the playoffs and he was in the graphic for some reason. They just listed a tight end from every team.
[00:43:51] Speaker A: He did play pretty well towards.
[00:43:53] Speaker C: He played well, but they put two Ravens tight ends on the graphic.
[00:43:58] Speaker A: All right, that being said, Raiders Chargers taken care of. We got Broncos and Chiefs left. Let's go to Broncos first.
[00:44:07] Speaker C: They need a quarterback.
[00:44:08] Speaker A: They do need a quarterback.
[00:44:13] Speaker C: Could also probably use a lineman. Could probably also use someone in the secondary with Sir Tan. They need a lot of. This is another one of those, another batsman.
[00:44:24] Speaker A: They kind of turned it up towards.
[00:44:25] Speaker C: The end, willed themselves because I think Sean Payton is a good coach.
[00:44:28] Speaker A: True. And that'll continue to be true to be fair.
[00:44:31] Speaker C: Right.
[00:44:31] Speaker A: Part of coaching is players improving, but yeah, a lot of needs there. Pretty much the safe ones. The best player available with edge, with offensive line, all that stuff.
And that leaves us with the Kansas City Chiefs. I have to imagine that they go wide receiver.
[00:44:50] Speaker B: I would sure hope they do.
[00:44:52] Speaker A: I would sure hope they do.
I could definitely see a Texas guy going to Kansas City 100%.
[00:44:58] Speaker C: Yeah.
Whole world's going to be mad because you're going to get another elite receiver.
[00:45:04] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:45:05] Speaker C: And who mean, I don't know. There's just something about seeing Mitchell Trubisky and Kaderius Tony on the Birmingham Stallions.
[00:45:13] Speaker A: That tickles my drawings.
[00:45:15] Speaker D: Okay.
[00:45:15] Speaker C: There's just something about that that it just screams to me. I don't know.
[00:45:20] Speaker A: Yeah, fair enough.
[00:45:24] Speaker C: I don't know. Yeah. It's a receiver.
If anything, that was like their Achilles heel and they still managed to make it into the playoffs because Zay Flowers.
[00:45:36] Speaker A: Doesn'T know how to hold onto a mean. I think the Chiefs looked better than the Ravens that entire game.
[00:45:41] Speaker C: Oh, they did. But if Zay Flowers knows how to.
[00:45:43] Speaker A: Hold onto a football, could have changed the. Oh, I think the game flips mean, in my opinion. I think the Chiefs, again, they were in control the entire time. Maybe they could have turned the momentum around hypothetically, but good lord, did that Chiefs team come to play, man.
[00:45:58] Speaker C: For sure.
[00:45:59] Speaker A: But yeah. Speaking of the Chiefs, speaking of the Chiefs, pretty big game coming up this Sunday.
This guy again. Chiefs Niners.
What are we thinking while we got a few minutes left before we go get out of here?
[00:46:16] Speaker C: I'm going to let Graham go first. All right?
[00:46:18] Speaker A: Okay.
[00:46:18] Speaker B: So going back to the summer, my preseason pick was a 49 ers. I said if they could stay healthy, they will absolutely win the Super bowl because they're in it. I will stick with that pick. However, I just got a feeling whether it's like ref ball or something, ref, something crazy happens.
[00:46:38] Speaker C: Come on. What are we doing, bro?
[00:46:41] Speaker A: We are a serious, no talking about know.
[00:46:47] Speaker C: I feel like I'm on undisputed now.
[00:46:49] Speaker B: Hold on.
[00:46:49] Speaker A: Okay. You're the one to talk, Elliot.
[00:46:51] Speaker B: Come on, dude, I just got a feeling.
[00:46:54] Speaker C: Oh, you got a feeling? What are you, the black eyed peas?
[00:46:56] Speaker A: Oh, let him go, Elliot.
[00:46:58] Speaker B: I just got a feeling something's going to go the Chiefs way. Some big play or something at the end and they're going to win.
[00:47:08] Speaker A: I like the Chiefs, man. I do. I think they've looked so good ever since they've set foot in the playoffs.
The combination of Andy Reid, Travis, Kelsey, Patrick Mahomes, that defense, man, that's going to be a really hard team to beat. Yeah.
[00:47:22] Speaker C: I'm taking the Chiefs by a million, this one. Quite frankly, I cannot. Okay, look, I cannot.
[00:47:28] Speaker B: Just a Brock purdy hater. You're a Niners hater.
[00:47:31] Speaker C: First off, number one, the Niners cannot get the same number of super bowls that the Steelers have as well as the Patriots, okay? That's part one.
[00:47:38] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:47:39] Speaker C: Second off, I just think that Brock Bale bonds purdy. His luck is going to come to an end.
[00:47:44] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:47:45] Speaker C: And you're probably wondering, why do I call him bail bonds?
[00:47:47] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:47:47] Speaker C: And the reason why is that I have never seen a dude throw so many prayers up that get answered, okay? And I'm going to go back. This is going to hurt Graham a little bit, okay?
But I have never seen a guy overshoot his receiver. It bounces off the defender's helmet and then the guy comes down with it inside of the five. First off, that should have been a pick. First off, he should have thrown other picks before that, okay? Cam Sutton has hands of stone, okay?
[00:48:13] Speaker A: Brock already did lead a pretty good second half.
[00:48:16] Speaker C: He let a pretty good second half come up, and I'll give him that. The thing that I have an issue with him, everyone calls him elite. This dude is a game manager.
[00:48:23] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:48:24] Speaker C: I really disagree with what Cam Duden says, like half the time on his, but he's absolutely right about Brock Purdy. This dude is a bona fide game manager. The minute he does not have all of his weapons with him, he stinks. And that showed up, actually, this season. Whenever he didn't have all of his weapons, he did not look very good. He throws up prayers. He gets lucky because his skill position guys are so talented with CMC and Kittle and Ayuk and Debo, okay? And even Yuschek, too, from the fullback. The defense is also super talented with Bosa, with young, okay? Greenlaw. They also have some pretty good corners as well.
[00:48:59] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:49:01] Speaker C: I think that his luck is going to run out. I think he's going to look confused.
[00:49:05] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:49:06] Speaker C: And I'm taking the Chiefs because I think that the Chiefs that are in the more seasoned team, they're more experienced and flat out. I just think Patrick Mahomes is a lot better than Brock Purdy. Fair take. Oh, really?
[00:49:20] Speaker A: I'm not as big of a Brock purdy hater as you are.
[00:49:22] Speaker C: I'm not being a hater. I'm trying to be realistic. I just don't think the dude is as talented as everyone makes him out to be. I think you have to look at the guy in a vacuum. We're looking at him with the fact that he has all of these weapons, okay? Everyone's like, oh, how did we have all of us pass on this guy? And he lasted until the Mr. Irrelevant pick. That's because in college at Iowa State, he wasn't super great.
[00:49:43] Speaker A: I saw Matt rule saying that while he was with the Panthers, saying, oh, guys, just put him on the draft board and he said that he got vetoed, which that guy has been lying and throwing people under the bus for the past three years. That's a different conversation.
[00:49:54] Speaker B: I don't know how much we want to believe.
[00:49:58] Speaker A: Yeah, man.
[00:49:58] Speaker C: But the thing is, he lasted that long for a reason. There's a lot of times there's reasons why these guys. Yes, there are some gems that you see in those later rounds, right? But for the vast majority of them, there is a reason why they got drafted where they were, and there's a reason why he was nearly an undrafted free agent.
[00:50:13] Speaker D: Okay?
[00:50:14] Speaker C: He didn't do anything super special in my opinion. They have any other quarterback from that 2022 class? I think the Niners are a locked to win the Super bowl. Any other one from the 2022 class?
[00:50:25] Speaker A: This Chiefs defense has a really good tendency of making quarterbacks lives difficult, specifically, and that could hurt an inexperienced player like Brock Purdy, but that regardless, this is a huge opportunity for Brock Purdy, in my opinion. This is a huge opportunity.
[00:50:40] Speaker C: This is going to make or break if he gets another contract, how much it's going to be.
[00:50:44] Speaker A: If he gets it done right here, then I think even if he lose.
[00:50:47] Speaker B: Game, you think it's a break.
Even if they lose in a shootout?
[00:50:54] Speaker C: This is not a shootout.
[00:50:55] Speaker A: I think there's pretty good. No, I'm just saying I think there's pretty good ods that they pay him even if he loses in the Super bowl.
[00:51:04] Speaker C: Well, score predictions real quick before we.
[00:51:06] Speaker A: Get out of here. Before we get out of here, I'm.
[00:51:09] Speaker C: Trying to formulate mine.
[00:51:12] Speaker A: I'm going to say 31 to 24.
It's mine. Chiefs.
[00:51:22] Speaker B: I'll say 30 to 28. Chiefs.
[00:51:25] Speaker C: I'm going to go 38 to 20. Chiefs, man.
[00:51:30] Speaker A: 38 by 18.
[00:51:32] Speaker C: Yeah.
I don't think this game is going to be close.
[00:51:35] Speaker A: This would age really well. This would be a pretty impressive take.
[00:51:38] Speaker C: If that's how this, I mean, here's the thing.
If I'm dead wrong, I'll come back here and I'll say I was wrong. Okay.
[00:51:44] Speaker A: Yeah. Very fair. All right. With that, you've got our Super bowl takes. You've got who we think every team in the AFC is going to take in the draft, and I'll be back next week with. I guess we'll figure out if Elliot's big take was right or not and.
[00:51:57] Speaker C: We'Ll see what the NFC has in store.
[00:51:59] Speaker A: See what the NFC has in store. With that being said, thank you so much for listening, everyone. Have a great week.
